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Old Mar 5, 2005
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05 problems??

I friend has a 05 ES2 auto. She said Honda mailed her a letter saying that those vics need 91+ octane. DId anyone else get this? And they also mailed her a new owners manual,claiming the old one was incomplete.... I asked her to show the letter to me next week..... but it's odd..... 91+ octane on a stock vic.... that makes the vic a bit less economical.
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errrr whats an es2?
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i would think that the car can run fine on regular but i guess the new 05 cant take advantage of higher octane and make more power off of it. the ex does have higher compression than the other trims
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ES2 is an EX sedan. it should require 91+...... thats 9.5 or whatever is hardly her compression by today's stanards... and pretty much everyone here agrees 91+ is a bit of a waste unless youve done some heavy mods.
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Originally Posted by CuRiOuSfIsH
I friend has a 05 ES2 auto. She said Honda mailed her a letter saying that those vics need 91+ octane. DId anyone else get this? And they also mailed her a new owners manual,claiming the old one was incomplete.... I asked her to show the letter to me next week..... but it's odd..... 91+ octane on a stock vic.... that makes the vic a bit less economical.
Never heard of such a thing. Guy down the road has an '05 Sedan EX for almost 3 months now, to my knowledge he never got a letter like that, I'll ask him tonight though. Maybe they though she got and RSX-S or something. I loked at an '05 the other day while my oil was being changed at the dealer th other day, engine looked the same as my old '03 civic and my fiances '04. Doesn't amke much sense to me, but I guess things don't always make sense to me to be true.
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thanks jrfish..... I know the engines are the same as well..... dont know whats going on.
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87/89 is fine.

unless it's boosted
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If its a stock engine stick with 87 octane. Even with 89 octane your wasting your hard earned money. I thought 01-05 engines were all the same??? no??

It would not make a difference if you drive an 01 or an 05, its the same engine.
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yeah, no change in engine between years. Not till 06', hehe. Can't wait!!!!
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ok, just checking if anyone else got this letter from Honda....
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well keep is updated and get a scan of the letter.
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yeah, I wouldn't mind seeing this letter for myself. Just curious, I guess!!!
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Hopefully my friend will remember to bring it to class tomorrow.... I will scan and post it up if I get it.
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no sorry. 05 civic is made to use 87 octane. Maybe a civic Si, but even then 89 should be just fine in it.
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i have a 04 and its the same engine as the 01-03's. If you have a regular ex just use 87.
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well the ex d17 DOES have a 9.9:1 compression ratio, so it might need that much octane, altho i dont think its 100% necessary
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no, in my manual the minimum recommended ocate is 86....87 regular is fine. REMEMBER THESE ARE ECONO-CARS not premium cars, these cars are designed to sip REGULAR cheap fuel!
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sorry guys, my friend's mother had the letter so she didnt have it.... I am curious about this letter as much as many of you... so... I'll hopefully have it by Thurs
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Originally Posted by thekuai
no, in my manual the minimum recommended ocate is 86....87 regular is fine. REMEMBER THESE ARE ECONO-CARS not premium cars, these cars are designed to sip REGULAR cheap fuel!
but the fact of the matter is Honda's mailing letters saying how powerful our cars have been all along that we need ultra quality fuels!
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i just got my 05 this week...ill be looking out for this so called letter which noone has proof of.
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Own an 05 EX... Haven't receieved any letters. Will be sticking with 87.
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Honda would never mail anything like that for an econobox Civic.

Even if there is proof of a letter, it would still obviously be a mistake, or a fake.

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well guys, i'm sorry, but my friend's mother mis-placed it somewhere..... so...... I dont know.... my original post was to see if anyone else got this letter. I guess not.... sorry again guys. But she does have the stuff regarding the owners manual being incomplete if anyone is interested in that...
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^^^ I highly doubt it....
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I bought my LX in Jan and haven't seen any letters from Honda.
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