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Old Feb 27, 2005
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wtf is up with my auto tranny? HELP!

omg! im ****ing scard outa my mind right now bcause hopefully my transmission isnt ****ed over. because tonight i hardly got home. heres the story, please someone tell me its a simple problem. omg i cant afford a new transmission. omg omg..


for the past week ive been noticing a strange noise when my car gets warmed up, like in the mornings or late at night. the car will make a slight whizzing sound, kinda like a supercharger. its was once faint, but the past week (4-5 days) it has been getting alittle louder. i didnt think anything of it, i had recently had my AT fluid flushed and replaced. honda were the last peopple to touch it..

anyways tonight when i was driving home, my car was skipping gears. like the gears weren't catching? it was strange. no grinding, just slippage. i would have to take my foot off the accelerator to get it to switch. but then, quickly mile after mile it got worse. finally, by the time i got home i couldn't even accelerate, the car would just act like it was in neutral every time i would put slight pressure on the accelerator. i got stuck across the street, restarted my car, it went into gear that time, but only enough for me to park my car. i didnt want to rev it or **** something else up.

can someone please tell me that this happens sometimes, and that honda isn't going to rape me on a new tranny. please!

2002 Civic LX Sedan
70,000 miles
oil changed last month
A/T fluid flushed/replaced same time
no engine modifications, bone stock.

quick help much appreciate, im stuck here!
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baaaadd juju dude, but maybe good news, start your car, let it idle for about 20 minutes, then check the AT fluid with the dipstick, if its low or dry, take it back to honda, make them fix it. their fault. if the fluid is good, you more than likely have a bad torque converter, wich would also be their fault, if they were the last ones to work on it, they are liable.
bad news is, if the torque converter is bad, or theres no fluid in it, you need a new tranny.
good news is, you shouldnt have to pay for it.

hope this helps...
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well i see that your at 70k miles...which means warranty is out right? so honda are *******s when it comes to warranty's. but who knows they might work w/ you. just sounds like a bad tranny to me. good luck w/ that man
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so, its ok to start the car, and let it idle for 20 minutes, even if theres no fluid in the torque converter?

but, yes, the last time ANY part of the transmission was touched, was all on honda. when i told them to put new AT fluid in. so, since my car isnt a 2001, im guessing its not a recall.. i really hope im not gonna have to pay 3500-5000.00 dollars for something that should still work... ive been reading alot of stories so far and im gettin nervous thanks for the info though.

ill let my car idle tomorrow and see if theres fluid in there or not. if not, i should definately have the car towed to honda. no risk in driving it with no fluids if it means saving my tranny.

i know i 'shouldn't' have to pay for it. but im hoping there isnt some contract i signed that states 'i do not hold honda accountable for when they **** up my car' . right now it is literally IMPOSSIBLE for me to afford a new tranny,
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that sucks. my friend who has an 00 civic auto, his car was doing the same thing once. he took it into a local shop that specializes in working on hondas, they didn't know what was going on. then he took it to a dealer, and they checked it out and it turned out he needed a new fuse or something. wasnt a big deal, cost him about 50 dollars. here's hoping that its something small like that.
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i would check ebay. I've seen whole d17 engines sold for like $500 on ebay. Or buy a k20a3 for like $1000 and do a swap. It'll still cost you less then $4000-5000k. Thats if the dealership won't replace your tranny. This is my first honda so i dont know how strong the auto trannies are. I know the toyota trannies are bullet proof and good for at least 180k if well maintained.


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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33615

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33615

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33615

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http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=193973

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I had the same identical problem that you're having. Only it was on my Kia Sephia. (yeah guys laugh it up) Anyways.. I hate to hear it but do you peel out often or are you driving your car hard? The reason is this:

I thought it would be funny to go peeling out in my Kia Sephia in my friends front yard a couple times. Not even a couple. Next thing you know, I'm driving on the road and just like you said.. theres slippage, no grinding, and you have to let go of the accelerator to get it to switch. This made me get stuck in the middle of the intersection in a crappy Kia with people honking at me.

Solution: I took it into automotive repair and the tech told me after looking under the hood that I fried the gears..they were basically stripped because I was driving hard and peeling out on an automatic and such. It was the exact same thing you're describing. It cost me near nothing because it was under warranty. Take it into the dealer or the shop and ask them about it.

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omg! im ****ing scard outa my mind right now bcause hopefully my transmission isnt ****ed over. because tonight i hardly got home. heres the story, please someone tell me its a simple problem. omg i cant afford a new transmission. omg omg..


for the past week ive been noticing a strange noise when my car gets warmed up, like in the mornings or late at night. the car will make a slight whizzing sound, kinda like a supercharger. its was once faint, but the past week (4-5 days) it has been getting alittle louder. i didnt think anything of it, i had recently had my AT fluid flushed and replaced. honda were the last peopple to touch it..

anyways tonight when i was driving home, my car was skipping gears. like the gears weren't catching? it was strange. no grinding, just slippage. i would have to take my foot off the accelerator to get it to switch. but then, quickly mile after mile it got worse. finally, by the time i got home i couldn't even accelerate, the car would just act like it was in neutral every time i would put slight pressure on the accelerator. i got stuck across the street, restarted my car, it went into gear that time, but only enough for me to park my car. i didnt want to rev it or **** something else up.

can someone please tell me that this happens sometimes, and that honda isn't going to rape me on a new tranny. please!

2002 Civic LX Sedan
70,000 miles
oil changed last month
A/T fluid flushed/replaced same time
no engine modifications, bone stock.

quick help much appreciate, im stuck here!
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I think that Honda powertrain warrenty (engine/tranny/driveaxel) is covered until 100k miles. I'm not 100% sure..... its either 100k miles OR 60k miles. Hopefully it's good for 100k because Honda would have to replace the tranny under warrenty..... if its 60k miles then you might be out of luck but it wont hurt to try to call up Honda and see if they will repair it even though it 10k out of warrenty.
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well ya if it's slipping and then started revving, your tranny is dead. But do what others said warm the car up to temp, leave on, and go check the fluid to make sure it's inbetween the upper and lower mark. Stock warranty is until 30k, mine til 70k cause I paid $1200 extra for extended.
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Stock warranty is until 30k, mine til 70k cause I paid $1200 extra for extended.
the stock Bumper to Bumper 36k miles warrenty is the one that covers everything on the car for the 1st 36k miles. Honda also has a POWERTRAIN warrenty that covers your engine, tranny and driveaxel which goes beyond the 36k miles bumper-bumper warrenty.
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2001 civic lx 67.000 miles shavings in the tranny fluid automatic ,please help ,its in the shop but they havent touch it ,it runs good is just cause hard driving/?//???????????
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shavings build up when you DON'T CHANGE THE FLUID LIKE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO. The manual says every 30k miles, I did mine at 18k and there was metal all over the place. And you guessed it, metal shavings kills the tranny. I've changed my fluid every 15k, I'm now at 30k with a tranny cooler and it's running better than when I first bought the car new if that's possible. And don't tell me it costs too much to maintain because all that including the cooler cost me an extra $75.
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my warranty was only fro 36,000 miles luckily my a/t died at 34 and got a new one
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so can someone clarify how long the powertrain warantee is for the 2002 civic? am i going to be covered or not? if not, then i will STRONGLY take into consideration getting a transmission from ebay. I would just get a new motor, but thats more time to install and more money and well the engine works fine.

i have a few more questions:

roughly speaking, if i was to get a transmission from ebay, for 500.00, and have someone locally install it. what type of price for installation am i looking at here? i am going to have my car towed to a honda dealership tomorrow, just to get an estimate and an exact fix on the problem. then i'll probably take it somewhere else cheaper to get it fixed, or if i have to, buy a tranny from ebay and have it installed reasonable price. thanks guys, very very much for your info. even as it looks grim, i got a reply within 10 damn minutes i posted. 7GN rules.. trannies dont :P
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do it yourself. and get a k series while you're car is under the knife
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Just wait to see if it's covered. If not, buying one on ebay is not gonna be reliable. They might sell you junk. Install is also gonna be alot it's a huge process.
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if worse comes to worse and you have to replace the tranny it'll cost around 1500 at a local tranny shop. they will also most likely rebuild it and not get your a new one
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this is a good chance to post a DIY: motor swap..what fun thatd be hah
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i came across an old TSB that might be of interest to you peeps...

Ref #: HSN 0402-16
Issue:April 2002

it's a TSB about hard upshifts, flare, and slippage

oh, and i grabbed it from Mitchel1
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gearbox, even if i bought from a reputable source?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...sPageName=WDVW

it looks very appealing. im just wondering how much it would cost to install the thing. shipping would probly be a bitch too
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that would be one of the stupidest things you can do is buy a tranny off ebay honestly. lets say you buy the tranny, the shop installs it and there is a problem...... the shop is gonna say that the tranny is bad and its not their fault and you're **** out of luck. tranny could be bad cuz the shop did a shitty job installing or because the tranny is shitty by itself.... in the end you'll be stuck paying the difference.

if you go to a shop or let honda do it, it'll cost a little bit more but you wont have nothing to worry about, everythign will be guaranteed.
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Prolly around 1k for install if you find a cheap place. It's not something that takes just one day. That auction looks good, but talk to the seller. Find out what happened, what's included, how much shipping, etc.

But really most of the money is for install. You might as well take it to a shop and pay around $1500-2000 that way you get warranty.
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guess ill find out tomorrow how much it'll cost and if it's covered. can't wait to get hit with the fat bill. **** man, stupid honda transmissions. i wish i had been abusing the engine to justify it's breaking.. but man, WTF is this crap!! i treat it so well!
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ya that's what sucks. Most of the time someone posts about tranny failure under 100k, they are the ones who baby the car. I think the whole tranny needs to be recalled.
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is it just me, or is this totally un-honda. and man, ive been hearing alot of problems about the same thing! its like omg, honda reputation down the **** HOLE! LOL

if i was them i would have been on that **** like a fly man.

my buddy told me there could be a possible problem like a leak in the line or something? i dont know. this morning when i went out to my car, there was a slow leak coming from the bottom. i was thinking A/C fluid, but i didnt turn the car on since last night. wondering if its A/T fluid and if that has anything to do with it
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is it just me, or is this totally un-honda. and man, ive been hearing alot of problems about the same thing! its like omg, honda reputation down the **** HOLE! LOL
actually tranny failure is very much like honda. Honda makes very good cars in all aspects besides transmissions. they always have problems with trannies.
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yeah i read there trannies for there autos kinda suck. I know the shifts on my auto in my toyota was a little bit more smoother. But i haven't had any problems with my auto tranny in my 04 vic so far. I got 30k on it so far. We'll see if i have at 60.
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my A/T went out at 42,023 miles...labor cost more than parts, and it ended up being almost $2800 at AAMCO (fvck AAMCO, by the way...they raped me with the price, then they didn't put my Injen SRI back on right and burnt a hole in my filter...A$$HOLES!!!!!)

good luck, hope your experience turns out better than mine...
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