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Old Apr 12, 2004
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3M for swirl remover?

Hey, I have a NHBP coupe and noticed I have some swirls and some minor and a few major scratches. I have searched and Im gonna get either meguiars scratchx or 3M swirl remover, wich would you guys prefer and where would I find 3M car care products in London, Ontario?


another thing should I wash,clay,wash,scrath/swirl remover,wax? or what steps should I do to make my black car look its best!

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Here is what we use at work for scratches. This stuff works great.

This is our procedure:

Wash, Clay, Wash, allow to dry, Buff with cutting pad and Perfect-it III, Re-Buff with Polishing pad and good carnuba wax (Pro P-35-H SATIN CREME) , Re-Wash to remove extra wax.

Cars come out looking great. Highy reflective.

But as I've said in other threads if you're not experienced with a buffer. Take it to someone who is.
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The basic steps are:

1) Clean - Wash and Clay
2) Compound - Cutting Pad
3) Polish - Polishing Pad
4) Protect - Wax

Some people wash after claying their car, but I don't really see the need. I just use a
quick detailing spray to remove the clay lubricant after #1.

3M Perfect It is more abrasive than 3M SMR. The PI-III would work better on the deeper scratches.
http://forums.roadfly.org/forums/det...3218720-1.html

I used 3M SMR and it seems to get out swirls, and some light sratches, but you'll need something more abrasive for the heavy scratches.

I would look into getting a Porter Cable 7424. Here's some things that you can do with it:

http://bimmer.roadfly.org/bmw/forums...1430487&page=1
http://www.properautocare.com/remswiruspor.html
http://www.properautocare.com/remscratwitp.html

It's random orbital, not circular, so it's much safer to use than a circular polisher.

If you want to really RESTORE and MAINTAIN your car's paint, invest the $$$ and get it.

You can get a starter kit here:
http://www.detailersparadise.com/_Sy...ductDetail.asp

As for which products to use, and detailing techniques, you can search the BMW Detailing Forum:
http://forums.roadfly.org/forums/detailing/

There's so much information in there, it'll make your head spin. Search for "remove swirls" or "3M SMR" or "3M PI-III" and you'll get a ton of hits.

I once read in there that, "Just looking at a black car will cause swirls to appear". As an owner of a black car, I swear it's true!
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If your choices are Meguiars and 3M I would chose 3M. I am not a fan of Meguiars at all. I have had good luck with 3M swirl remover for dark color cars and 3M body shop / clear coat safe compound. However, my choice would be to use Poorboy's Super Swirl Removers www.poorboysworld.com
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what if I dont wanna buff it? can I do it by hand with anything?
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It is hard to say without seeing the scratches. Would not hurt to try it.
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