D17A2 Auto Engine to D17A2 Manual Body Swap
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D17A2 Auto Engine to D17A2 Manual Body Swap
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I have a 2002 Civic EX with D17A2 VTEC and auto trans. Car has a salvage title due to a hit and run and a small fender-bender 10 days apart - body shop put both claims in at once. Anyway, damage was cosmetic and mechanicals are perfect. Unfortunately, the trans has died. Local garage has a 2002 Civic EX with D17A2 VTEC and 5 speed with a bad engine. Body is practically perfect.
What would I need to change / acquire if I put my engine (from auto trans car) into the manual trans body? I know I need to swap the flywheel / flexplate and such. Any other parts?
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I have a 2002 Civic EX with D17A2 VTEC and auto trans. Car has a salvage title due to a hit and run and a small fender-bender 10 days apart - body shop put both claims in at once. Anyway, damage was cosmetic and mechanicals are perfect. Unfortunately, the trans has died. Local garage has a 2002 Civic EX with D17A2 VTEC and 5 speed with a bad engine. Body is practically perfect.
What would I need to change / acquire if I put my engine (from auto trans car) into the manual trans body? I know I need to swap the flywheel / flexplate and such. Any other parts?
Thanks in advance.
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Possibly throttle body as well?
If you can have both cars next to each other when you do the swap that would be ideal so you can make sure everything that needs to be swapped over does
If you can have both cars next to each other when you do the swap that would be ideal so you can make sure everything that needs to be swapped over does
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If you are asking what’s different about an auto and manual trans engine, the answer is basically nothing. The engine’s wiring harness is different, and the flex plate would need to be changed for a flywheel. That’s about it.
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Coupe vs sedan have different drivers side engine mount arm.
Swap entire throttle body (different) and sensors, no reason to possibly carryover a issue.
Swap entire engine wire harness,
Consider how easy it will be to replace all the seals while engine is out.
Swap entire throttle body (different) and sensors, no reason to possibly carryover a issue.
Swap entire engine wire harness,
Consider how easy it will be to replace all the seals while engine is out.
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When I put a MT engine in my AT car, I didn’t swap the sensors or throttle body. I just put my flex plate on the engine and used my OEM wiring harness, and it worked fine.
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I would suggest changing all the gaskets, as well as the timing belt, tensioner, and water pump before you install the engine. Much easier with the engine out of the car!
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2 different part numbers...
They're not going to make 2 different parts just for fun.
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seals, headgasket, timing belt, water pump, and tensioner are all a good idea to do while the engine is out of the car as other people have mentioned.
Obviously flywheel, clutch etc.
The IAC is definitely different, Pretty sure the throttle body is as well so just swap the entire thing over.
Depending on how the old engine failed, you make want to keep it for extra parts.
Same with your old shell, pull of as much as you can keep and then sell/scrap the rest.
They're not going to make 2 different parts just for fun.
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seals, headgasket, timing belt, water pump, and tensioner are all a good idea to do while the engine is out of the car as other people have mentioned.
Obviously flywheel, clutch etc.
The IAC is definitely different, Pretty sure the throttle body is as well so just swap the entire thing over.
Depending on how the old engine failed, you make want to keep it for extra parts.
Same with your old shell, pull of as much as you can keep and then sell/scrap the rest.
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2 different part numbers...
They're not going to make 2 different parts just for fun.
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seals, headgasket, timing belt, water pump, and tensioner are all a good idea to do while the engine is out of the car as other people have mentioned.
Obviously flywheel, clutch etc.
The IAC is definitely different, Pretty sure the throttle body is as well so just swap the entire thing over.
Depending on how the old engine failed, you make want to keep it for extra parts.
Same with your old shell, pull of as much as you can keep and then sell/scrap the rest.
They're not going to make 2 different parts just for fun.
OP
seals, headgasket, timing belt, water pump, and tensioner are all a good idea to do while the engine is out of the car as other people have mentioned.
Obviously flywheel, clutch etc.
The IAC is definitely different, Pretty sure the throttle body is as well so just swap the entire thing over.
Depending on how the old engine failed, you make want to keep it for extra parts.
Same with your old shell, pull of as much as you can keep and then sell/scrap the rest.
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i would highly suggest doing the gaskets and timing belt while the engine is out of the car.
get a new clutch and flywheel while it's all apart as well.
good luck
get a new clutch and flywheel while it's all apart as well.
good luck
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Thanks for the replies. BTW, both cars are 4-door sedans. MT car's previous owner apparently let it run low on oil and ruined the engine. It will crank and run, but sounds like crap. I have 206K miles on my engine, but it has been well-maintained and runs great. I will probably do the timing belt since it is about due anyway. I'll check with previous owner regarding clutch history on the other car, as soon as I can negotiate a good price with him, and change it out if needed.
My wife thinks I am wasting my time, but before the trans crapped out, I was still getting 33-38 mpg commuting to work and running around town on errands. I told her I can't buy another car with those stats for less money than doing this swap, AFAIK.
My wife thinks I am wasting my time, but before the trans crapped out, I was still getting 33-38 mpg commuting to work and running around town on errands. I told her I can't buy another car with those stats for less money than doing this swap, AFAIK.
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Thanks for the replies. BTW, both cars are 4-door sedans. MT car's previous owner apparently let it run low on oil and ruined the engine. It will crank and run, but sounds like crap. I have 206K miles on my engine, but it has been well-maintained and runs great. I will probably do the timing belt since it is about due anyway. I'll check with previous owner regarding clutch history on the other car, as soon as I can negotiate a good price with him, and change it out if needed.
My wife thinks I am wasting my time, but before the trans crapped out, I was still getting 33-38 mpg commuting to work and running around town on errands. I told her I can't buy another car with those stats for less money than doing this swap, AFAIK.
My wife thinks I am wasting my time, but before the trans crapped out, I was still getting 33-38 mpg commuting to work and running around town on errands. I told her I can't buy another car with those stats for less money than doing this swap, AFAIK.
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Thanks for the replies. BTW, both cars are 4-door sedans. MT car's previous owner apparently let it run low on oil and ruined the engine. It will crank and run, but sounds like crap. I have 206K miles on my engine, but it has been well-maintained and runs great. I will probably do the timing belt since it is about due anyway. I'll check with previous owner regarding clutch history on the other car, as soon as I can negotiate a good price with him, and change it out if needed.
You really can't, especially if you keep a bunch of parts off the old car as spares
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also, the mount thats between the radiator and the engine on the Auto tranny is different from the manual transmission because one got two bolts and one got 3 bolts so it wont fit..
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