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Originally Posted by rhcp0801
no but some people will say that if u have gauges there and ur not boosted there pointless i should say, mine are all hooked up and working great, idc about questions, ask as many as u want
right on man i will get the oil pressure, vacuum and voltage as a starter. i can always switch them up later whats the normal vacuum level?
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the gauge moves to 0 when u floor it or step on the gas pedal hard and when ur stopped i think it hovers around like maybe 20 psi, im not really sure, check out those pics tho if u want tinted or untinted
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Originally Posted by rhcp0801
the gauge moves to 0 when u floor it or step on the gas pedal hard and when ur stopped i think it hovers around like maybe 20 psi, im not really sure, check out those pics tho if u want tinted or untinted
im definitely going with the tinted ones. i want to get the cf pillar in stead of the black plastic. i've emailed the seller about it already.
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very good choice, thats cool with it cf, never thought about that, mines painted gray now to match the rest of the interior
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yea.. my dash kit, shift ****, e-brake are cf so i'd like the pillar match the interior thanks for ur help, ur highness ninja #50
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haha no problem man, takes pics of it when ur done, i really wanna see how it comes out, if u got any other questions just pm me, REP ME DAMNIT!!! hhahah jk lol, good luck on the install man
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i've repped u already man, u deserve it. i'll post pics once i get it installed. g'night.
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thanks man, awesome night
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d2 is for if your in snow or ice, it keeps the engine in 2nd gear, so yes, your car can get slower. d3 i use for acceleration, obviously, if your higher in your rpm range you'll have more power (i know dont redline it), but if your car is having problems, downshift, just as you would in a manual, plus, for me when i first get on the freeway i'll drop it into d2 and top that out every now and then just to clean it out. if you leave it in d3 or d it shifts out of 2nd around 65mph, if you shift right before the redline, it'll goto 78mph. one time when i was on my up to flagstaff i had to put it in d3 for 15 min. at 5k rpms, god i loved that gas mileage
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so using d3 gear dont save any gas? or does it work the other way? i'd think it does since manual trannys are known for saving gas.
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Originally Posted by MBison
so using d3 gear dont save any gas? or does it work the other way? i'd think it does since manual trannys are known for saving gas.
D3 is like driving a manual and never shifting above 3rd gear. There's no reason to think you'd get better gas mileage in 3rd gear than 5th (or 4th OD) is there?
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Originally Posted by white2K2EX
D3 is like driving a manual and never shifting above 3rd gear. There's no reason to think you'd get better gas mileage in 3rd gear than 5th (or 4th OD) is there?
what if u lets say try to go up the hill on D gear and ur engine starts to get lazy, wont switching to D3 help out save gas since the engine wont switch back gear on D while going up the hill to keep up with the speed therefore causing it to loose power? hmm..
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i use d3 to warm up the car faster in winter. it doesn't shift to 4th anyway for the first 5 mins but i like to make sure it doesn't until car is warm.
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Originally Posted by MBison
what if u lets say try to go up the hill on D gear and ur engine starts to get lazy, wont switching to D3 help out save gas since the engine wont switch back gear on D while going up the hill to keep up with the speed therefore causing it to loose power? hmm..
if the engine "starts to get lazy" you're saving gas more likely because the car will try to do the least amount of revs possible and keep the RPM's low. Puting the car into D3 restricts the number of gears it has to choose from and it will try to keep the revs up to match the speed/angle of the throttle input.
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if the engine "starts to get lazy" you're saving gas more likely because the car will try to do the least amount of revs possible and keep the RPM's low. Puting the car into D3 restricts the number of gears it has to choose from and it will try to keep the revs up to match the speed/angle of the throttle input.
that makes sense. thanks.
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wow, 4 pages of the same thing being said
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i know, but basically everyone's saying the same thing in different words, it's a trade off, higher rpms=more power but higher rpms=less gas mileage. d3 is 3rd gear and d is forth so d3 would just let the engine hang at a higher rpm for more power going up hill, but worse gas mileage.

That's all i meant by what i said, just that that's the point everyone is trying to get across.
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shifts will be noticable quicker in D3... in that gear, the transmission isn't enabled to use its variable belt system (altering the final drive ratio in 4th gear to attain overdrive). while it will sucessfully downshift for you, even when in 3rd gear while in the D position it will feel a little slippery. if i'm under 40 miles an hour, I'm in D3 unless i'm on a straightaway with little acceleration or decelleration, at which point i pop it into D (make sure to keep pressure on the throttle moving between D3 and D, otherwise you'll overwork your torque converter for premature failure)

don't use D2, unless you are towing something up an incline.

and DON'T rev it in N and slam it into D. the splines on our input shafts and torque converters are very small and don't have a lot of total contact surface area, nor is the hardened metal exceptionally strong to begin with. if you fukup the torque spines, its a pain in the *** to replace it and a few bucks. if you fukup the input shaft, you're looking at a completely rebuilding your transmission or a buying new one (which technically is a refurbished one by honda), depending on which is cheaper. either way round $2k or more for a major tranny fix at the Stealer.

or you could do what i'm doing... slammin the auto tranny into the ground, then swapping in a manual for around $1k in parts and doing all the work myself in a day or two. up to you, buddy.

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shifts will be noticable quicker in D3... in that gear, the transmission isn't enabled to use its variable belt system (altering the final drive ratio in 4th gear to attain overdrive|). while it will sucessfully downshift for you, even when in 3rd gear while in the D position it will feel a little slippery.

don't use D2, unless you are towing something up an incline.

and DON'T rev it in N and slam it into D. the splines on our input shafts and torque converters are very small and don't have a lot of total contact surface area, nor is the hardened metal exceptionally strong to begin with. if you fukup the torque spines, its a pain in the *** to replace it and a few bucks. if you fukup the input shaft, you're looking at a completely rebuilding your transmission or a buying new one (which technically is a refurbished one by honda), depending on which is cheaper. either way round $2k or more for a major tranny fix at the Stealer.
there u go. thanks for the info.
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If you cannot understand that the D3 allows gears 1,2,3 and that the '2' forces only 2nd gear, then dont even touch it.
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i always thought d3 and d felt the same shifting except d3 stays in 3rd. i do notice in d4 the car tends to bog down if i don't accelerate fast enough. maybe thats what you mean.
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Drive (D) - Use this posotion for your normal driving. The transmission automatically selects a suitable gear for your speed and acceleration. You may notice the transmission shifting up at higher speeds when the engine is cold. This helps the engine warm up faster.

Drive (D3) - This position is similar to D4, exept only the first three gears are selected. Use D3 to provide engine braking when going down a steep hill. D3 can also keep the transmission from cycling between 3rd anf 4th gears in stop and go driving.
For faster acceleration when in D3 or D4, you can get the transmission to automatically downshift by pushing the accelerator pedal to the floor. The transmission will shift down one or two gears, depending onyour speed.

Second (2) - To shift to second, press the release button on the front of the shift lever. This position locks the transmission in second gear. It does not down shift to 1st gear when u come to a stop. Second gear gives you more power when climbing, and increases engine braking when going down steep hills. Use secong gear when starting out on a slippery surface or in deep snow. It will help reduce wheel spin.
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with all that i only use D on the highway... I mostly drive my car on D3
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when rollin to a slow but not a stop, then step on the throttle some, the tranny will punt a little, just enough to **** you off. this might be because of the disengagement from the overdrive gear to the non-variable gears?? but i dunno, i gotta drop the pan to check it out fully.

this stupid auto tranny problem that a lotta people have, myself included... doesn't seem to happen for me in D3.

the highend tranny whine at highway speeds seems almost gone with synthetic fluid
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yea, mine does it to, i figure it's cuz it's down shifting from 4th to 1st and the torque converter over compensates and the engine's rpms drop to low, just like if you were in a manual.
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Originally Posted by gearbox
i always thought d3 and d felt the same shifting except d3 stays in 3rd. i do notice in d4 the car tends to bog down if i don't accelerate fast enough. maybe thats what you mean.
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