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Hi Everyone,

I'm sure everyone can relate to being in a situation where you have thought about calling a third party to represent you. With the holidays coming up and speed traps being set up, let me give you a recount of what happened to me and how everyone can avoid doing business with this company that has scammed me and many others (doing a simple search on the internet will show how) And perhaps if you have advice on how I can pressure X-Coppers to give me my money back, it will be greatly appreciated.

Has anyone ever been in this situation where the X-Copper or agent claimed they did everything they could? My offense was only a two pointer, not even speed related. The only reason why I couldn't attend court on my behalf was b/c I was out of the country on business. I paid them A LOT of money to investigate the situation and show up on my behalf. Now I'm getting a notice from the court that I have been convicted of the 2 points with a hefty fine. X-Copper claimed they showed up and did work on this but seems shady to me. If their analyst reviewed my case, promised me said that it was SO simple and easy to deal with, the manager insists they sent their best man forward, how can a company like X-Coppers not be able to reduce a minor offense like "proceeding contrary to a no left turn sign"?! This is the lowest offense on the point scale! What the hell happened? Any ideas? Did the X-Copper come in late? Was he clueless about my case so he couldn't answer the prosecuter's questions? wtf?!

What did you do to get them to give you your money back? Did you have to threaten to call the local papers? I did an internet search and X-Coppers have a long running history of bad service, ranging from not showing up (so you lose because someone didn't even come) or lying to you about what happened in court.

I have read about people getting their money back from these guys. They just didn't go into detail in how they were able to pressure them so they could get their full refund. If anyone has any ideas, please let me know. It's not justified for them to scam me out of my $318 and leave me with more work to do on my case than I started out with (cost of not being at work b/c I have to appeal my case and then represent myself + fine of ticket+ $318 X-Copper fees + increase in insurance rates+ effect of points added to my record = A LOT of $$$$$$$$$ and grief!)

Many thanks in advance!

-Liz

 
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You got screwed big time. If you show up yourself, the justice of peace will negociate a lower guilty plea 9/10 times even with the cop showing up. It sounds very much like a no show. If your points or fines is not reduce at all then you are entitled to a refund b/c it's alway been "they will or it's free". A win counts as a full or partial deduction in fines or points. Good luck and let us know if you get anything back.

 
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Yeah, you need to contact them asap and get records etc that they were even at the court date as promised. And like DX8 said, most of these X-Copper places give you that guarantee that they'll win or its free.

 
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. . . ...so... . . . you made a left turn in a spot where there was a sign that said 'NO LEFT TURN'...got caught...and now are trying to fight it?!?

if i am mistaken, please correct me.

...maybe the X-Coppers found that in-deed you WERE at fault...

 
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hey shut the *** up if you have no useful information to add to the thread.

 
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badmouth them in every way you can...people have to know. and make sure you read the thread on DIY how to fight ontario traffic tickets. i just everyone knew that stuff and stick it to the man...dammit