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Old May 19, 2004
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Provinical Budget...any feelings?

anyone see the details of the provincial budget released yesterday? Looks like they are attempting to reduce out debt by 2008 ... health care and education getting some much needed funds .. Cigarettes, and alcohol will be rising in price ...
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i have a feeling. I feel sick that I voted Liberal. Lying bast*rds! Every second thing that the Dalton government does breaks another election promise.

Between that and the d!ckhead PM we have now, I am NOT voting liberal again. Its a shame, because I really admired Cretien
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What are you referring to, as far as their broken promises ?
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it's basically a tax raise. ------> a broken promise.

yet, they havent said it directly, but it is.
it's good in one sense that some of the money is going to health care and education.

but in another sense, it's TAX RAISE.. which is now, ANOTHER broken promise.

im sure they could of done something else to support health care and education.

for ex. WTF are they doing with the money that they make on f u c k i n g parking tickets? that's a freaking multimillion dollar business that the government has running there. and that's just PARKING TICKETS ALONE...

minimum 20bucks here and there....
with each parking enforcer with a quota to meet...

let's JUST SAY they have to give out 200tickets a week

200 x 20
=4000

4000 x 52weeks
=$208000

that's just based on one parking enforcer

mutiple that by 100 parking enforcer (im sure there are wayyyyyyy more then 100 parking enforcer's in the city)

that will come out to just over 40 MILLION DOLLARS A YEARS.
and this calculations is ONLY BASED on 20dollar tickets





if you make a mininum 20g's a year to 38gs, you're getting tax an EXTRA minimum of $300 A YEAR...
making 20gs a year is NOTHING... it's hard enough to get by on that already.

with calculations, if you make at least 100g's or so... forgot the exact amount, you're only getting tax a minimum of $750 or so... to $900 tops. THAT'S NOTHING with ppl making that type of income.

but $300 at 20 or 25g's and up... that's riduculous

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Ontario raises taxes, re-imposes health-care premiums
http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2004/05/18.../ont_bud040518

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Yep cigarettes are $2.50 more per carton immediatly

The health premium tax goes up to a max of 900 (450 in 2004)

So there is more tax and they are cutting some things out of OHIP:
chiropractic services, optometry (ages 20-64), physiotherapy
They say they are adding 4.8 billion to health care though to increase availability.

The property tax credit increased to 625 from 500 (this is a good thing)

JD
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Ya between the cost of fuel and the taxes I would like to think I should see a salary increase too...hehe.

Oh well, as long as the $$ is being pushed into health care and education I'm aight with it.

more Fed money for the Military would be nice...
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Originally Posted by AznSaint
it's basically a tax raise. ------> a broken promise.

yet, they havent said it directly, but it is.
it's good in one sense that some of the money is going to health care and education.

but in another sense, it's TAX RAISE.. which is now, ANOTHER broken promise.

im sure they could of done something else to support health care and education.

for ex. WTF are they doing with the money that they make on f u c k i n g parking tickets? that's a freaking multimillion dollar business that the government has running there. and that's just PARKING TICKETS ALONE...

minimum 20bucks here and there....
with each parking enforcer with a quota to meet...

let's JUST SAY they have to give out 200tickets a week

200 x 20
=4000

4000 x 52weeks
=$208000

that's just based on one parking enforcer

mutiple that by 100 parking enforcer (im sure there are wayyyyyyy more then 100 parking enforcer's in the city)

that will come out to just over 40 MILLION DOLLARS A YEARS.
and this calculations is ONLY BASED on 20dollar tickets





if you make a mininum 20g's a year to 38gs, you're getting tax an EXTRA minimum of $300 A YEAR...
making 20gs a year is NOTHING... it's hard enough to get by on that already.

with calculations, if you make at least 100g's or so... forgot the exact amount, you're only getting tax a minimum of $750 or so... to $900 tops. THAT'S NOTHING with ppl making that type of income.

but $300 at 20 or 25g's and up... that's riduculous
Parking Tickets = Municipal Government
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So lets summarize

Municipal government: Stickin' it to us
Provincial government: Stickin' it to us
Federal government: Stickin' it to us

JD
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So lets summarize

Municipal government: Stickin' it to us
Provincial government: Stickin' it to us
Federal government: Stickin' it to us

JD
Ya, that about covers it.
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Originally Posted by 03Eclipse
Parking Tickets = Municipal Government

true, basically, what im saying is... wtf are they doing with all the money???
going to the city? fixing roads? roads are still s h i tty as hell around my area.
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Originally Posted by AznSaint
true, basically, what im saying is... wtf are they doing with all the money???
going to the city? fixing roads? roads are still s h i tty as hell around my area.

their getting to it.. after they spend like soo much on roads that are actually pretty good already.....
i just read the new budget.. i was like wtf??.... its pretty messed up
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Well, our deficit in Ontario is getting big, but they want to improve Health care and education, so they need to raise taxes ... I don't agree with it but I see why there doing it ...
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Originally Posted by Booohahaha
their getting to it.. after they spend like soo much on roads that are actually pretty good already.....
i just read the new budget.. i was like wtf??.... its pretty messed up
Ya they spend it all on GTA roads though. Meanwhile in Ottawa, we have one skinny little highway for EVERYONE to use in the city coming and going to work everyday. All we want here is one more lane out towards the Corel Center and instead they put in a gay bus lane. You sit in traffic for an hour and 2 busses go by....AHHH. Anyway, I think Ontario needs to throw a little more money towards infrastructure in Ottawa....
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