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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by NoBottleJustThrottle i guess i missed that.....they also weigh about 100lbs more.....like thee car honestly needs any more weight.....but having atts isnt necessarily a bad thing....

[QUOTE][i]sadboy916who honestly cares what i think it sounds like......you've definately looked to far into this...because like i said before...certainly isnt a whine......

and i wouldnt say a lude is slow.....its just like any other car....the driver makes all thee difference......sorry you dont appreciate them.....they have potential.....just requires a lot more weight reduction then you're average car...... and nicely said SuperNegro

 
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Hands down, the last gen prelude is one of my favorite cars, I love the design of them. the only prelude I even owned was an '89 Si. It was my first car when i was in High school. Still had the thing till 2 years ago when a tree in our yard landed on it and pretty much cut it in half.

 
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prelude is a slightly faster daily driver and thats what honda wanted it to be. honda did not make a sports car when they rolled it out of the assembly line.

 
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It's a sporty car, not a true and true sports car. Small difference, but a big difference.

 
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The ATTS system doesnt weight an extra 100lbs. Ive held it in my hands. I dont think there is anything else in the SH prelude to make it weight an extra 100lbs all together.
Local 5th gen runnin 13? or 13's? Cause my buddy has a prelude over in Europe, and he has spent about 8 grand on the motor alone...it is fully built. Everything is done to that motor that you can replace, and he has 220whp. Granted, it can now do a 200 shot of NOS (which he is running), but a fully built H22 isnt gonna run a 13 flat NA. Heck, the RSX-S can barely run 13 flat NA...it can, but that takes a lot of work, and that is a much lighter car, and the motor is way more responsive to aftermarket parts. But hey, maybe your buddy does have a flat 13 sec 5th gen NA, but i would want to see pics of teh car, and the time slip to fully believe it.

 
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I myself own a 1998 base model 5-speed prelude, and for the 13 grand that i paid for it a year ago, i havent been dissapointed. Its a great car, stylish interior, and exterior..and the motor makes enough power to satisfy me as a daily driver....i drive it pretty aggressively, and it does what i want it to do. When i bought it, i knew it wasnt a sports car, i wanted a car that looked good, rode nicely, had the quality of a honda, and was pretty quick for a daily driver. Redline in my lude is around 7,600 rpms, and vtec engages at around 5200 rpms. The car has amazing torque for a 4-cylinder in 1st and second gear and pulls really strong (for a r-cylinder, of course a v-8 muscle car would have much more) but the tach shoots up in 1st and second and the car pulls nicely. When vtec engages in the h22a it is very significant, people will ride in my car and when it happens they will be like what the hell was that? that sounds awesome! and you can feel it pull a little bit harder, but you definitley know that its there. The rpms will climb, and then you hit 5200 rpms and the car does "growl" louder and deeper, and you can feel it lunge ahead a little bit. The tranny of the lude is very different, it was hard to get used to driving, and some of my friends who can drive sticks perfectly, and do daily, have a very hard time driving my car, i dont know if there is something wrong with it, or if thats just the way the h22 tranny was built. The gears are not very long, 1st tops out at 32 mph, 2nd is at 68 mph, 3rd is at 89 mph, and 4th is at 115 mph. I can be sitting in 5th gear comfortably at 45 mph around 2,500 rpms. The car is heavier than most hondas, which is its drawback, it rides smooth, especially at high speeds the car just glides and sticks to the surface....I've taken the lude up to 130 mph and it felt very stable. The only mods i have done to it are an injen cold air intake, msd spark plug wires, zex spark plugs, neuspeed strut bar, and some gay arospeed ground wire kit. Ive ran it here at my local track about 10 times, and the best time i have turned over was a 15.352 @91 mph. I'm very happy with my car, and i plan on going n/a fully built motor when some extra funds turn up. I just bought a skunk2 full catback sitting in my garage waiting install. God i feel like i just wrote up a consumers digest report for auto trend or something haha, sorry for the long post, but thought id give some input since i drive a lude daily, peace.

 
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I dont care if you believe it or not and running a 200 shot on prelude that sounds suspect. the car is from san diego,ca and the crew he runs with is known for fast cars one being a 10.98 sohc turbo and 11 sec nitrous Hatch and my friends B16A fully built turbo coupe, ive seen the car and the guy is running JUN top end with other work, runs at carlsbad raceway and now is looking for larger cams to lower his times.

RSX also has an 86mm stroke compared to the 90.7mm stroke of the H22A and also have different type of gearing you cant compare one type of car and expect to respond in the same way unless they have the same mods same engine design and head flow among other things.

220whp out of a fully built prelude motor isnt impressive at all with head work cams, ecu tuning, i/h/e and new pistons it should put out more then that even with being tuned for nitrous.

 
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it has been dyno tuned...it isnt impressive at all. The motor just doesnt respond that well to aftermarket parts. Thats why i just dont see a NA prelude hitting 13 flat.

 
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thee sh weighs more then the standard 5-speed....thee atts contributes to that



Curb Weight (lbs., MT/AT) base....2954/3009 sh......3042/NA

looks like 88lbs to me

 
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This talk is intresting. I have a 97 Sh. The Sh DOES weigh more. But not enough to notice anything. The AUTO does suck horribly. They are really slow, and the tranny shatters around 50k mi. As for the guy claming a 13 second NA motor. Your full of ****. Scan the time slip and the dyno sheet. That is not NA, He has to be running NOS. I gurantee your wrong. Unless you are talking about him hitting like a 13.99 at the track, and even then i think your still wrong. The Base model 99-01 can pull a 14.9 on a very cold day at a track. That is with a perfect launch and a good driver. And you can all Flame away on me now. But i will race anyone of you with your civics. And i gurantee i will win. I will even race you guys with the K20. Have fun Flaming.

 
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You know what ive been around import racing for awhile i know the difference between a 13.99 and 13 flat and just because you idiots cant tune a car nor know how to mod one in the right way doesnt mean everyone else is inpet as you, if you dont believe me drive your *** down to san diego and watch it run then i can kick you in the ***** for being an idiot.

And hes not running nitrous, do you not understand what ALL MOTOR means i mean come on you guys cant be that STUPID then again most of you think an A/F guage is good for tuning your car so that explains a lot.

One of the fastest all motor street cars in CA runs 11.8's in an EG hatch with H22.

YES a prelude and civic hatch are two different cars the point of that is if you know what you are doing you can bring out the HP in a H22 Next The all motor prelude has also done weight reduction so you know what you wannabe know it all's can go stand in the corner with your dunce cap.

 
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Hey buddy, how about you show us the numbers. Untill then your just some ricer chump to me. Show me the numbers and ill back off. If you cant show number, go away and stop talking. Put your money where your mouth is.

 
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LMAO ricer chump? lol wow thats funny.

if you think your prelude is gonna beat any civic you are the chump and next ive been in this game for so long and guys like you are funny, you get one car and think you have the fastest thing ever and all of sudden you know everything.

Im sure the closest thing to a swap you have done is kissing a girl to swap spit so in other words you are nobody.

If you seem to know so much prove it to me id like to see what makes you so much of an expert and non ricer.

 
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The closest thing to swapping something is spit with a lady. Yeah ive done that time or two. But we wont talk abotu sex life here cause i know you aint got one. But if you want to keep it to cars then we can do that. Swaps Eh, Well i swapped motors in a prelude or two. I have also put a JDm b18 into a 89 CRX. Along with building the motor. And doing the head work. Lets see what else. Oh im actualyl lined up to do a swap of a K20 into a 01 Civic. And im going out to europw in August to put another built H22 into a prelude. Oh and not to mention the fact that i swapped a H22 into a 93 prelude Si. And mechinaclly, i will destory you. And call me a ricer all you want. I have the numbers, and the expericence to prive you want.

All i want from you is the numbers buddy. Come one lets see them. If you cant show them then i suggest you back off and leave crying. Maybe a little of this on your way out the door?

 
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okay lets get into swap work two thats right two 4G63 swaps into RS eclipses when i worked at a mitsu shop back when i was 19.

ZC into a CRX then LS, Few LS VTEC swaps, B18C5 into a CRX, Few B16A Turbos, MR2 work, Del Sols, doing a GSR turbo build, H22 into a 2.4L Turbo engine next month

the list can go on so you arent proving anything to me, since you want numbers sooo bad ill see if i can meet up with the guy and get pics of his car since you doubt me so bad.

also did a 13.0 Flat non turbo eclipse RS with 100 shot plus other nitrous cars you arent phasing me at all so you can keep up with your "ricer chump" hard *** act because like you it means nothing.

 
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i dont bealive anything this guy is saying

 
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alright....now im off topic...but whats thee lude run anyway.....how bout your setup....made me curious

ive also heard that someone in south florida is runnin 13's in thee lude n/a...i have yet to see proof....but thats thee what the person claims....ive been curious to know if its true...although im thinking it is more along thee lines of high 13s......but im still doubtful at this point.....i dont even know what thee exact set up is....so id say that doesnt help out either

 
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my car doesnt run 13s. But all iw ant this ******* to do is post numbers. I am saying he is wrong. He is saying he istn. I want to see numbers, and all he is doing is trying to make people think i dont know anyhting about my own car. But thats ok. He is still sitting on his computer typing away and not showing any Dyno Sheets or time slips. He is your typical computer riceboy.

 
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I can see a 5gen lude NA running 13's only if its not a full body. You've gotta be bad *** driver and the condition have to be just right. I don't think you can get numbers like that 24-7.

I don't realy care for swaps when you trying to say this car will beat that car. If you got the money you can swap in a h22a civc and I'll swap in a C30a into the lude...

 
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im a typical computer riceboy

mirc

server: irc.clubsi.com
channel: #clubsi.com

lets have a chat and see whos the bigger rice boy and whos running what.

and it seems your mister hard *** going to europe to perform an engine swap and you are doing a lot of talking.

 
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Dood let keep it on the boards. Show the damn slips idiot. Stop trying to save face, just show the slips. Come on.

 
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let me walk out to my car and get it, thats right its not my prelude.

i told you it runs at carlsbad race way but i see you cant get it thru your 10" thick skull and like i said you know your **** as you claim come in the chat room.

ill be sure to take video when im at the track since once i open my website ill be sure to feature it.

 
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Personally, I like the Prelude. It looks nice plus it's a faster car than our civics

 
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Cant prove yourself. How about you STFU now. Your so god damn lame.

 
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so let me get this straight you are mad because you cant figure out how to make a prelude fast and im trying to save face? lol give me break like i care what you think.

and its not even my car i sat at the race track and saw it run a 13 so yet im lying about it cuz i have to impress a bunch of 7th gen retards because you mean oh so much to me.

this is just like when people said you couldnt swap a 4G63 into a non turbo eclipse then we showed up at the races and basicly broke off every gst and gsx out there, just another hater who doesnt know what they are talking about.

ill let you keep hating and thinking you actually know something.

 
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this thread is really funny. keep it up guys!
I know MrManz personally, and i have seen the car run into the 13's...i have also never seen a NA 5thgen walk away from it either. I am very interested in seeing the time slips, and dyno charts as well. Post it up.

 
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If we mean so much to you why are you here on a 7thgen website?

 
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cheap entertainment when you guys go on and on about how an A/F gauge will save your motor among other rambalings about top speed of a 7th gen among other things.

Call it bordem though i wont have much time to be on here starting next month or so.


But like i said, if you guys dont think the prelude actually runs 13 n/a ill feature it on my website when i open it up.

 
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That's cool with me, atleast your not veiled in your actions.

I speak for all who have read your latest posts when I say we will sorely miss your intelligent and supportive commentation.

 
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heh you can have your opinion, but thats cool ive corrected my fair share of stupidity on this site and thats enough for me