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Old Jun 13, 2003
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Well whether you want to drag race it or not you don't have a choice...it's too slow.
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the only thing i have aginst my 4door is that it looks a bit boxy, other then that i love it, i love the room, the pracricality everything.

anyways, that day at the ottawa meet, i took a 90 degree turn at like 80 km/h, the back end just slipped into position, it was almost as if i had the handbreak on, and i felt that it was going to flip, so i duunno about stock suspension performance.
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A cars tendency to oversteer increaces as speed through the corner increaces. i.e. the faster you are going the more likly the tail end will slid through a corner. and it is virtually impossible to roll a car (SUV's and large pickups excluded) unless you slide in to something like a curb or dirt. the tires will let go and slide long before the car even thinks of tiping over. You'r probably just not use to how our cars handle a speed. If you want to take turns like that with confidence and consistancy I suggest some form of formal race training or possibly autocross. The streets not a good place to learn the limits of your car.
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Old Jun 13, 2003
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Originally posted by Zzyzx
A cars tendency to oversteer increaces as speed through the corner increaces. i.e. the faster you are going the more likly the tail end will slid through a corner. and it is virtually impossible to roll a car (SUV's and large pickups excluded) unless you slide in to something like a curb or dirt. the tires will let go and slide long before the car even thinks of tiping over. You'r probably just not use to how our cars handle a speed. If you want to take turns like that with confidence and consistancy I suggest some form of formal race training or possibly autocross. The streets not a good place to learn the limits of your car.
Are you sure that doesn't just apply to RWD cars?
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as handling goes, stock vs. stock of course, I believe the coupe has a rear antiroll bar, and the sedan doesn't, at least in EX form. Not that the stock rollbar is very large, but it's better than nothing. Also, on the '03s, the EX coupe have the SI wheels, while the EX sedans have the steelies and wheel covers, which I think weigh more than the SI wheels. Of course, all of this goes out the window when you start doing suspension/tire/wheel mods. To me, get the 4 door if you routinely carry more than 2 passengers with you, and get the coupe if you usually ride alone or with your "significant other" only. That's why I bought a coupe, I seldom carry more than 1 passenger with me.
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Many of you make good points. I prefer the Coupe simply because I like the look of it. I don't like nor can I stand most sedans. Most of the sedans that I do like are designed so fluently that at first glance, you wouldn't even know that it is a sedan. I like that! My preference, my opinion.


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My 2 cars before this sedan were coupes. I sure don't miss getting out of my seat to let the rear passengers in/out.
I solved that problem in the very beginning:

1. If I have more than one passenger, the one sitting in the front passenger seat moves ***, not me.

2. I don't have passengers. If I wanted to carry people with me, I would have bought a SUV or a bus. All I car about is me and my girfriend.
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Originally posted by MrDisco99
Are you sure that doesn't just apply to RWD cars?

No, it deals with all cars. RWD cars will do it sooner, but FWD cars will also slid the rear at high speed. at low speeds the things Plow like pigs, but once you pic up some speed and are on a long sweeper, you can get the *** to rotate. You learn alot when you autocross. I know I have.
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Originally posted by GideoN
Many of you make good points. I prefer the Coupe simply because I like the look of it. I don't like nor can I stand most sedans. Most of the sedans that I do like are designed so fluently that at first glance, you wouldn't even know that it is a sedan. I like that! My preference, my opinion.




I solved that problem in the very beginning:

1. If I have more than one passenger, the one sitting in the front passenger seat moves ***, not me.

2. I don't have passengers. If I wanted to carry people with me, I would have bought a SUV or a bus. All I car about is me and my girfriend.
LOVE IT! Both 1 and 2 are EXACTLY why I have always owned 2 doors. Except, in # 2, replace "girlfriend" with wife, and my thoughts precisely!
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only the ex's have the stock anti sway bars in front and back, and yes they are the same size between the sedan and coupe, yes they are, at times, inadequate but they do the job for the daily driver
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Originally posted by WannaBFast
only the ex's have the stock anti sway bars in front and back, and yes they are the same size between the sedan and coupe, yes they are, at times, inadequate but they do the job for the daily driver
Thanks for clearing that up for me, I guess no advantage there then for the coupe. But it still LOOKS better, to me anyway.
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what is autocross?
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I got a coupe because i dont want to be a taxi....but insurance rates may be lower for the sedan.
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Originally posted by jamesj
I still have the Firestones on my sedan and take the on/off ramps at around 50mph. I find it fun.
hahahahaha i used to do that. man you can driiiiift on firestones sometimes
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Originally posted by player
what is autocross?


Every thing you need to know about autocross can be found here

http://www.na-motorsports.com/Autocross/


Well maybe not everything....




Autocross: out here we race with our steering wheels.


oh wait, your in canada, hold on. http://www.casc.on.ca/

heres a better link for you, just look for SOLO II events its the same as autocross.

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Originally posted by WannaBFast
only the ex's have the stock anti sway bars in front and back, and yes they are the same size between the sedan and coupe, yes they are, at times, inadequate but they do the job for the daily driver
maybe in 2001 it was ex only, but 2002 lx and ex have front and rear anti sway bars 22.3/13.0mm

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The sedans (02 and up) have front and rear anti-roll bars. Dude, it all depends on your preference. Some are mentioning 1/4 mile times, some mention looks and bling bling stuff, but get it b/c sedan has more space and more practicality. Oh yeah, Sedan, more JDM baby, but just disregard that.
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I have an EX coupe. the three major reason why I do not like the sedans is:

1. That chrome strip that goes across the hood

2. The tailights. I hate how they are positioned all the way to the top of the trunk

3. Last, and probably the least, I dont like the stip that goes down the doors for dent protection, I think.

the coupe doesnt have any of these....so thats what I went for
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Originally posted by player
what is autocross?
It's a sport designed for slow cars...like 1.7L Civics, Coopers, Celicas and any others that get eaten alive on the drag strips.
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Originally posted by JDMakeover
It's a sport designed for slow cars...like 1.7L Civics, Coopers, Celicas and any others that get eaten alive on the drag strips.
Really?

Tell that to him

or him

or Him




Obviously you've never autocrossed.

Autocross is a sport designed for people who have found that corners are a whole hell of alot more fun the driving in a straight line.

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i totally agree, theres something about being in control of your car and pushing it, the entire car, to the limit, not just the engine
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Originally posted by WannaBFast
well got suspension mods?
Nope

And to be momentarily completely off topic I have a response to, "because rice does not grow in the US..." Yes it does. According to the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations rice grows in Arkansas, California, Louisiana, Missouri, Mississippi, and Texas. It's been produced in the states for export as early as the original British colonies.

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And you don't slide? My Firestones sucked so mych with traction its unbelievable. But they are quieter then my 17's
I get some slight squeal but that's about it. I don't go sliding off of the road or anything.
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well its not asian rice... thats the best kind...
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Originally posted by tripledoublegs
you mean way better???
yeah, that's what I thought.
4 dr looks ok, except for the tail lights.
are you kidding? you coupe tail lights look like a ford focus's durin the day... and
at night they look like horse shoes lit up!
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this thread is still going?!?!
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Originally posted by Zzyzx
Autocross: out here we race with our steering wheels.
Thanks for that link. I seriously want to get into this.
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The tail lights can be modified to look not like a horseshoe. I still think the Sedan is too "boxy", much like a Jetta but lacking the power.

And to be momentarily completely off topic I have a response to, "because rice does not grow in the US..." Yes it does. According to the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations rice grows in Arkansas, California, Louisiana, Missouri, Mississippi, and Texas. It's been produced in the states for export as early as the original British colonies.
Crowly, LA is the Rice Capital of America and hold the annual Rice Festival which is awesome. There isn't much difference from oriental rice that you get at a store and the rice produced in the U.S.
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My sedan is the best thing I've ever gotten. More people can get into my car comfortably and I have easier access to the back seat when I need to get something out of it. Yes the roofline is higher, but tint the windows and it seems to lower.
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Originally posted by Zzyzx
Autocross is a sport designed for people who have found that corners are a whole hell of alot more fun the driving in a straight line.
nicely put.
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i have a coupe- and never regretted it... looks more sportier. the sedan looks like an elementary school teacher's anniversary present or something.... in other words, sedans look like a family car, where as coupes look like the kinda car that would be "fixed" up... my opinion
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i love my coupe, i would never get the sedan, my moms going to get the hybrid sedan, but you know what? my mom is a elementary teacher. and the hybrid comes with a stock wing!!! i want that wing so bad.
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