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any options for an engine swap!?!

so for now k20 is just the engine that could fit to our 7thgen? was there any engine more that could be put in?![IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG]
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You can put any otherhonda motor in with money.[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/IMG]
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There have been rsx engines put in with some major modification of the engine bay.
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I thought the K20 was the RSX engine? Hasport has motor mounts out now for the K20 series, so not too much modification is required, but it still costs a pretty penny. There have been rumors about B series engines being swapped in, but I'll have to see it to believe it... like Jodster said, with enough $$$ anything is possible
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which would be faster ... ? ... h22 or k20 motor swap?
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First off I have 2 things to say about the h22 and k20 and their pros and cons
K20:
1. K20 is i-Vtec I don't think apexi has made a vafc for this engine but will come out, very small detail that bugs me
2. K20 has 6 speed with i-Vtec a very powerful vtec
H22
1. Older Engine would be illegal if swapped.
2. Has vtec and weighs less I think.

If I had the money I'd get K20 simply cuz of the 6 speed and its more, get this "intelligent"

They are both the same horsepower.
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I think someone should try puttin in an 2000 b18 "R" motor!
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The 2000 b18s wont be illegal if swapped b.c. it still complies with rules and regulations, i think its b.c. its still 2K etc but anything older is illegal...WHo cares if its illegal so is a bottle of Nitrous in ur trunk! So whats more obvious to check for an old motor or a BOTTLE haha jp!
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If you want to do a B series swap or a H series swap you need a few things.

1. MONEY. and lots of it. everythng would have to be custom built.
2. A 2001 civic to swap with so it would be legal.
3. One of three different engines, H22 out off 2001 lude, B18C out of 2001 GSR, or a B18C5 out of a Type R.

It is illegal to swap a older motor into a newer car. So you might see some companies in the future make mounts for B16 swaps, but it will be for off road use only.
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[hr]Originally posted by: Elite
First off I have 2 things to say about the h22 and k20 and their pros and cons
K20:
1. K20 is i-Vtec I don't think apexi has made a vafc for this engine but will come out, very small detail that bugs me
2. K20 has 6 speed with i-Vtec a very powerful vtec
H22
1. Older Engine would be illegal if swapped.
2. Has vtec and weighs less I think.

If I had the money I'd get K20 simply cuz of the 6 speed and its more, get this "intelligent"

They are both the same horsepower.[hr]
well the jdm h22 is a bigger engine, so I dunno how it would be lighter. It's 2.2L instead of the 2.0L ... true that the hp is the same (220) ... but the h22 has more torque ... about 10 pounds/ft.

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I'd rather do the K20 swap. Even though it's a pretty penny, it's worth it.
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[hr]Originally posted by: aznboysrfr
well the jdm h22 is a bigger engine, so I dunno how it would be lighter. It's 2.2L instead of the 2.0L ... true that the hp is the same (220) ... but the h22 has more torque ... about 10 pounds/ft.[hr]
more displacement doesn't necessarily mean bigger. the K24 from the new CR-V and accords displaces 2.4 liters, but the block is the same size as the K20 and therefore weighs nearly the same. all you have to do is change the rods and/or crank and you can change the displacement. that's what stroking a motor is, do a search on it.

the easiest, cheapest, and street legal swap is the K20 or K24 (to my knowledge no one has done a K24 yet, but it would be nearly the same as doing a K20). as has been said before, any engine can be put in your car if you have the money.
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i'm not completely sure the b series could fit but i do know that there is entirely to much modification needed for them to fit, fortunately, the rsx is built on a similar platform as the 7thgen civics, that is why the k20 fits better and with less modfication needed
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k20 is the only thing i think thats new that will fit. but you can always put in a BMW engine [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG] , and im the one putting (hopfully) a b18b1 or b18c1 into my hatch, and no its not illegal for me to do that MUHAHAHA
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There plobly won't be as many performance mods for a K24 as tere would be for the K20. The other fact is that the K24 is 2.4 L displacment and is the same HP as the basic K20 (160) the K20b (i think I can;t remember) goes all the way to 200 HP.

Don't Know If the K24 swap would be as practical as the K20.
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[hr]Originally posted by: jefff
There plobly won't be as many performance mods for a K24 as tere would be for the K20. The other fact is that the K24 is 2.4 L displacment and is the same HP as the basic K20 (160) the K20b (i think I can;t remember) goes all the way to 200 HP.

Don't Know If the K24 swap would be as practical as the K20.[hr]
you mean k20a2. the k20a also makes 220 but that's the JDM type R motor.
no performance mods for the k24? i would think 75% of what they make for the k20 will fit the k24 as well. look at how b-series parts fit all motors in that line, rather than any specific one. also, i bet someone will find a way to frankenstein the k24 with a k20a or a2 head.
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if it's the same block, i don't see why you couldn't frankenstein the head of a k20a or a2 onto a k24. the whole point of the k24 is that it may be the same HP as the k20a3 (civic SI and base RSX) but it's got more torque due to the displacement difference. and the difference in power between the k20a3 and the two more powerful motors is in the head and intake manifold. so put a 200 hp head on a 200 ft-lb block (guessing on the torque for the k24, i'm not sure on that) and you have a beast with a hell of a hole shot. now the question is: who is going to reach deep and pay for all that so we can see it in action?
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I sit corrected, Please excuse my ignorance in this matter. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG]
Thanks for the info.
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if it's the same block, i don't see why you couldn't frankenstein the head of a k20a or a2 onto a k24. the whole point of the k24 is that it may be the same HP as the k20a3 (civic SI and base RSX) but it's got more torque due to the displacement difference. and the difference in power between the k20a3 and the two more powerful motors is in the head and intake manifold. so put a 200 hp head on a 200 ft-lb block (guessing on the torque for the k24, i'm not sure on that) and you have a beast with a hell of a hole shot. now the question is: who is going to reach deep and pay for all that so we can see it in action?[hr]
heh.. wish i wasn't a poor college student, otherwise i would. but then again, if i wasn't, i wouldn't be rolling around in a civic, would i?
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if it's the same block, i don't see why you couldn't frankenstein the head of a k20a or a2 onto a k24. the whole point of the k24 is that it may be the same HP as the k20a3 (civic SI and base RSX) but it's got more torque due to the displacement difference. and the difference in power between the k20a3 and the two more powerful motors is in the head and intake manifold. so put a 200 hp head on a 200 ft-lb block (guessing on the torque for the k24, i'm not sure on that) and you have a beast with a hell of a hole shot. now the question is: who is going to reach deep and pay for all that so we can see it in action?[hr]
heh.. wish i wasn't a poor college student, otherwise i would. but then again, if i wasn't, i wouldn't be rolling around in a civic, would i? [hr]
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drop an NSX engine in it. I dont even know the engine code, nor do I know if it would work.

But that would be one fast car
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drop an NSX engine in it. I dont even know the engine code, nor do I know if it would work.

But that would be one fast car [hr]
that surely would make for a hell of a sleeper. however, you'd have to lengthen the nose of your vic by quite a bit since it's a V6 longitudinal engine (lined up with the car instead of across it like all FWD 4-bangers) and our car isn't wide enough to do it tranversely. so then you'd have to do a RWD conversion on a civic ..........

of course it's possible, but somewhere in there cost is going to become prohibitive and you'd be better off just buying the NSX. [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]

but that would be one fast car
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The NSX does not feature a longitudinal configuration - it's still a transverse engine but is mid-engine instead of front-engine like all other Hondas.
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Anyone know how feasible it would be to put a S2000 engine in a Civic? I think it's a F20 or something...I may be totally wrong on that though...
-Mark
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engine codes for nsx are:

C30A: 1991-1996 270hp
C32A: 1997-present 290 hp
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Anyone know how feasible it would be to put a S2000 engine in a Civic? I think it's a F20 or something...I may be totally wrong on that though...
-Mark[hr]
It's not...the engine cannot fit in the bay, no matter how you turn it...just the fitment alone gives me shivvers lol
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if it's the same block, i don't see why you couldn't frankenstein the head of a k20a or a2 onto a k24. the whole point of the k24 is that it may be the same HP as the k20a3 (civic SI and base RSX) but it's got more torque due to the displacement difference. and the difference in power between the k20a3 and the two more powerful motors is in the head and intake manifold. so put a 200 hp head on a 200 ft-lb block (guessing on the torque for the k24, i'm not sure on that) and you have a beast with a hell of a hole shot. now the question is: who is going to reach deep and pay for all that so we can see it in action?[hr]
I'm not sure on the specifics of the new TSX engine, but I know that it's 2.4 liters and produces 200 hp at I believe 6800 rpm. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the TSX engine more or less a k24 block with a k20a2 head? If it is, that would be a nice engine to swap because it has better torque numbers than the k20a2. Plus it comes with 6 speed trans.
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The K24 has a taller block to accomidate the longer stroke.

yes the RSX-S head will fit, but it would probably be a good idea to do some head work.

I have been considering this swap lately, but if i did this i would definatly want to go all out, and i just cant even afford the engine, much less an entire line of stuff to swap it in, including the 6 speed tranny.

God I wish someone would do this, so we can see some track numbers.
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