went to auto show... more SRT4 BS
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went to auto show... more SRT4 BS
I went to the auto show and got to see all the new cars there. I'm not likin the "new" mustang look. I like the current mustang, but then again, I guess you kinda have to like the retro feel, which really isn't my style. And holy cow was there rice. On the 1st floor, there was a Civic Si (6th gen), V6 mustang, neon, Eclipse, tiburon, and other such cars with ugly bodykits and ricey wings. Bleh.
Anyways, onto the SRT4.
They had a red one roped off as if it was a viper or something. (hell, even the EVO8 wasn't roped off) I walked up to it, taking a look, and had a salesman immediately jump up and try to hump my leg. Yeah yeah, I know he's just tryin to do his job.
Him: Are you interested in the Neon SRT4?
Me: Well, not particularly... how much are they?
Him: Well, sticker is 19,995 (or something like that).
Me: But?
Him: Well, there's a mark up on them right now since they are rare and hard to get hold of. It's a very high performance machine. blah blah blah.... $28,995.
Me: (inside I'm laughing so hard you can't believe it) .... (few moments of silence)... you want to charge Almost 30 grand for a NEON?
Him: Well it's not just a neon.
Me: But... it's a neon. I mean, it really just looks like a neon with a small hood scoop and a big spoiler.
Him: Well it's got a turbo and it's very fast.
Me: I can throw a turbo on a shopping cart filled with dog sh*t, but that doesn't mean it makes it any better.
Him: Well, I think the price is justified.
Me: Right.
Okaaaaaay.
Anyways, onto the SRT4.
They had a red one roped off as if it was a viper or something. (hell, even the EVO8 wasn't roped off) I walked up to it, taking a look, and had a salesman immediately jump up and try to hump my leg. Yeah yeah, I know he's just tryin to do his job.
Him: Are you interested in the Neon SRT4?
Me: Well, not particularly... how much are they?
Him: Well, sticker is 19,995 (or something like that).
Me: But?
Him: Well, there's a mark up on them right now since they are rare and hard to get hold of. It's a very high performance machine. blah blah blah.... $28,995.
Me: (inside I'm laughing so hard you can't believe it) .... (few moments of silence)... you want to charge Almost 30 grand for a NEON?
Him: Well it's not just a neon.
Me: But... it's a neon. I mean, it really just looks like a neon with a small hood scoop and a big spoiler.
Him: Well it's got a turbo and it's very fast.
Me: I can throw a turbo on a shopping cart filled with dog sh*t, but that doesn't mean it makes it any better.
Him: Well, I think the price is justified.
Me: Right.
Okaaaaaay.
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I tell ya, I feel sorry for the sap that pays that much for a neon. Heck, go get a mustand gt.
Anyhow, the grocery cart comment was awesome! LOL
I tell ya, I feel sorry for the sap that pays that much for a neon. Heck, go get a mustand gt.
Anyhow, the grocery cart comment was awesome! LOL
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Rep Power: 0 You should have mentioned that up until now you didnt think it was possible to polish a turd....
And then mention that even though they managed to do that, they still didnt solve that nasty stench it produces...
And then mention that even though they managed to do that, they still didnt solve that nasty stench it produces...
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Rep Power: 350 I use to work for Dodge as a salesman(no where near as stupid as the one you talked to) and the SRT-4 is the last model of the neon, due to it being a flop.
30,000 for a Neon. are you kidding me.
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Rep Power: 312 hah...what will dodge think of next?
funny thing would be if s200man's shopping cart full of shit idea is the next concept by dodge..hah
funny thing would be if s200man's shopping cart full of shit idea is the next concept by dodge..hah
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Rep Power: 0 30grand!?!?? holy crap! and how much will the Evo8 be selling for? heck for 30grand i'd rather get myself a wrx!!! [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]
here in canada, they renamed the Neon to "SX2.0" hehehe... how SeXy
here in canada, they renamed the Neon to "SX2.0" hehehe... how SeXy
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Rep Power: 0 weird,, the car wasnt roped off in chicago.... sat in it..... whata chep peice of s**t...... the boost gauge had even broke already..... just everything in the car was poor quality and bad fit and finish....... good motor.... but rest is a s**t bucket
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[hr]Originally posted by: S2000man01
Me: (inside I'm laughing so hard you can't believe it) .... (few moments of silence)... you want to charge Almost 30 grand for a NEON?[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: S2000man01
Me: (inside I'm laughing so hard you can't believe it) .... (few moments of silence)... you want to charge Almost 30 grand for a NEON?[hr]
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[hr]Originally posted by: MugenRacerX
..... the boost gauge had even broke already..... just everything in the car was poor quality and bad fit and finish......[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: MugenRacerX
..... the boost gauge had even broke already..... just everything in the car was poor quality and bad fit and finish......[hr]
And what kind of lexus do you own that you are comparing it to... such that the car is "shitty" inside? I happend to think it was quite nice, certainly no RSX or something, but a lot nicer than the average civic/corolla/neon/cavalier/etc. Heck, it even passed the clubsi patented "doorslam test"
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[hr]Originally posted by: Neonmike
Ah the irony in that. Back in '98-'99 when daimler was taking over chrysler, there was the comic someone posted on neons.org. It showed a couple standing in a showroom looking at a neon (1st gen) with a mercedes badge on the hood (one of the ones that sticks up). The caption was "I don't know, 30 grand is a lot for a neon!". *chuckles and shakes his head.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: Neonmike
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[hr]Originally posted by: S2000man01
Me: (inside I'm laughing so hard you can't believe it) .... (few moments of silence)... you want to charge Almost 30 grand for a NEON?[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: S2000man01
Me: (inside I'm laughing so hard you can't believe it) .... (few moments of silence)... you want to charge Almost 30 grand for a NEON?[hr]
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Rep Power: 0 I also went to the car show this weekend and saw much of the same thing. I was with my friend walking around and those salesmen just didn't stop trying to tell everyone how "great" their cars were. Saw the honda element and the SI. I'm loving those cars with the navigation system too.
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30 grand for a neon?!!?
/falls off chair.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: Gotti
30 grand for a neon?!!?
/falls off chair.[hr]
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edit: sorry, the neon was supposedly 28 grand. you can have a WRX for 6 grand less [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]
edit: sorry, the neon was supposedly 28 grand. you can have a WRX for 6 grand less [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]
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Rep Power: 0 Considering I KNOW someone who bought one (preordered mind you, LAND of the price gouging) for 19K. That guy is full of s**t.. then again I dont know any dealer/salesman who DID know WTF he was talking about.
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Rep Power: 376 yeah imma move it to GAR. i was totally in the wrong forum when i posted it and just forgot to move it. mah bad.
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I happen to think that the SRT interior is prety nice. I haven't had any problems/squeaks/rattles with my 01 neon interior with 27k on it. Only difference to me between that and a 7th gen interior is that the 7th gen uses materials that are a bit nicer. I don't think the 7th gen is that much better where you can call the Neon interior sh!tty.....[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG]
- 7th gen?
no....
If the boost gauge was by chance broken, it's because of the hundreds of f*cktards molesting the interior...rather than build quality. IN detroit at the autoshow, which sees an INSANE amount of visitors, interiors in ALL makes are broken, ***** missing, buttons broken, etc...
Comparing 7th gen interior to SRT interior is a moot point....
Sounds like most people on this site are upset that the Neon is now fast...
:-/
I happen to think that the SRT interior is prety nice. I haven't had any problems/squeaks/rattles with my 01 neon interior with 27k on it. Only difference to me between that and a 7th gen interior is that the 7th gen uses materials that are a bit nicer. I don't think the 7th gen is that much better where you can call the Neon interior sh!tty.....[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG]
- 7th gen?no....
If the boost gauge was by chance broken, it's because of the hundreds of f*cktards molesting the interior...rather than build quality. IN detroit at the autoshow, which sees an INSANE amount of visitors, interiors in ALL makes are broken, ***** missing, buttons broken, etc...
Comparing 7th gen interior to SRT interior is a moot point....
Sounds like most people on this site are upset that the Neon is now fast...
:-/
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Rep Power: 376 I'm not upset at all. My whole point is, that dodge would have been better off building a new car, rather than turbocharge an existing, not-so-attractive platform.
As I said before... who cares if the neon is fast. Fast doesn't make a car good. IMO, the neon is ugly, and the numbers don't lie. Neons aren't exactly "hot" cars for today's crowd.
As I said before... who cares if the neon is fast. Fast doesn't make a car good. IMO, the neon is ugly, and the numbers don't lie. Neons aren't exactly "hot" cars for today's crowd.
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Rep Power: 0 I agree that a new car would be in order if chrysler really wanted it to appeal to the mass market. I think the neon in general is getting old and tired. It's not the fun little car it used to be, that's for sure. But then, the same is true for GTis and civics, and a whole bunch of other cars that have taken on weight over the years.
If chrysler DID redesign it, there'd still be comments along the lines of "dude it's still a dodge" or "it's a domestic so how many recalls are there [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-puke.gif[/IMG] Etc.
So really those people are missing out on a great car, neon or not.
If chrysler DID redesign it, there'd still be comments along the lines of "dude it's still a dodge" or "it's a domestic so how many recalls are there [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-puke.gif[/IMG] Etc.
So really those people are missing out on a great car, neon or not.
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As I said before... who cares if the neon is fast. Fast doesn't make a car good. IMO, the neon is ugly, and the numbers don't lie. Neons aren't exactly "hot" cars for today's crowd.
Not to start flaming or anything, but weren't you the one who went looking for a Neon to race in your S2000 to prove a point to yourself that you could beat an SRT?? Who cares if a Neon's fast? A whole lot of people care, thats who....
Not to start flaming or anything, but weren't you the one who went looking for a Neon to race in your S2000 to prove a point to yourself that you could beat an SRT?? Who cares if a Neon's fast? A whole lot of people care, thats who....
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Rep Power: 376 Of course I wanted to race an SRT4. I wanted to see how quick it was. Nothing wrong with that??
Unfortunately yes that's true. I wish people weren't so brand loyal. I mean i love domestics as much as imports. I prefer imports. But even I love the looks of the mustang GT, the vette, and the WS6. The WS6 is gorgeous!! And it looks like the monster that it is.
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[hr]If chrysler DID redesign it, there'd still be comments along the lines of "dude it's still a dodge" or "it's a domestic so how many recalls are there Etc.[hr]
[hr]If chrysler DID redesign it, there'd still be comments along the lines of "dude it's still a dodge" or "it's a domestic so how many recalls are there Etc.[hr]
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Rep Power: 0 True, Chrysler would have been better of building a new car from scratch, but they would have to wait 3-5 years to try and establish themselves as a player in the SC market segment....
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True, Chrysler would have been better of building a new car from scratch, but they would have to wait 3-5 years to try and establish themselves as a player in the SC market segment....[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: screaminDOHC
True, Chrysler would have been better of building a new car from scratch, but they would have to wait 3-5 years to try and establish themselves as a player in the SC market segment....[hr]
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Rep Power: 0 If I were a betting man, that's where I'd put my money, having been involved in the auto industry for a while..I know how slow things progress....I mean, don't you think a chrysler fan would love to see that motor in a new body? Hells yeah!
