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Old Jan 2, 2003
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What is considered 'abuse'?

Hey,

I'm really new to driving standard..and in teaching myself, i've always made 3000 rpm my shift point.. So my question is, what is the highest RPM i could shift at on a daily basis before it's considered abusing my engine, and possibly setting myself up for early parts failure?

Also, what is the highest safe RPM it could be at for extended periods of time? eg. can I drive at 120 km/h (~3500 rpm) for a couple hours on the highway? (the reason i'm curious, is that at 3500 rpm in 5th, the engine is startin to get pretty loud.. sorta sounds like i'm pushing it kinda hard)

I realize there probably isn't a definate answer for these questions, so pretty much all i'm interested in is your opinions..


btw it's an '02 Si Coupe (US EX)

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Our engines do get pretty loud, mostly due to the fact that there is almost no sound insulation under the hood or on the firewall....I like to keep my engine under 5000 RPM when shifting....anything under that is pretty good....And you should be fine up to 5000 for highway cruising....And honestly, if you are within a reasonable speed, it shouldent even be that high.....

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I personally shift gears any where from 3000-3500rpm's.
I think driving 120km/h on the highway and the engine sounding like your pushing it is normal for all 7th gen civics.
I am not completely sure how "safe" it is but I have driven my civic for 3 hrs straight multiple times with the rpms steady @ 4500, no problems yet.
You may want to read into the manual or consult with your local honda dealership for the most accurate answers.
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to me, this is abuse


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[IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]LMAO!!!!!![IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]
Thas so wrong
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dude your fine, i downshift all hte time on hte highway at constantly hit 5,000 RPMS and sometimes during the week i'll redline. your ok, its just about saving gas. i'd just say don't got above 5,000 and keep it below 4,000 on a daily basis and you'll have no problems unless you grind the clutch too much n stuff. the engine is strong and can take more than you think.
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Yeah just watch out cuz keeping it above 5000 RPM's uses up a lot of gas.
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you sound good man i wouldnt worry about it.
imagine not having tachometer.... it sucks.
i mean i have one on my lx sedan, but i didnt have one on my 96 dx protege! it was hard, trust me. i had to learn to listen to the car, i had to also watch for the feel of it too. thats always the best way to go, even though its hard adjusting to it.

once i got had a tach on my stock lx, i changed my whole world around. i had such more confidence in my shifting. even without the tachometer on my mazda, i learned some valuable things.
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[hr]Originally posted by: 94civicsedan
to me, this is abuse


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i love that pic. so damn funny. i would have laughed my *** off if i was the guy holding the collar. [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]
i use that all the time.
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As long as your not constantly redlining every shift, or not rev-matching when downshifting, you should be fine.
When i drive to work i drive fast and shift anywhere from 3-5000rpms, and entering a highway i'll shift at 6000 on 3rd and then 4000 into 5th. Cruising speed on the protege 5 at 100km/h is about 3000rpms so for econo cars like the protege and civic.. it's normal.
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I'm not afraid to take my car to the redline sometimes or all the way near 7,000 RPMs, but if you like to drive over 3,000-4,000 RPMs constantly, don't use 5w-20 oil. Use 5w-30 to have more protection on your engine internals. If your car hasn't reached 10,000 miles yet, keep the 5w-20 oil in it because the 1st 10k miles should use the 5w-20 to break in the engine.
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