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Old 11-28-2002
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I just bought a 2000 civic hatchback DX and i was wondering if i put a JDM engine in it , (order it from www.streetimports.com) will i have to convert it to US standards? and does it matter what engine i get? i want to get a b16 but i dont know if i should get 160HP JDM B16A , 170HP JDM B16A2, 180HP JDM B18C1, 197HP JDM B18C5, or 200HP H22A. AND i did search!!!! but it just talked about the 7th gens and one 5th gen hatch
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go talk to some local import shops, personally i think the b16 is a dog, no power
if i we're you and had the extra money i'd stick with the b18c1, nice engine and plenty of opportunity to grow
ive had quite a few friends that swapped with h22 from prelude and they dont get much traction daily driving, so just a thought
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[hr]Originally posted by: rackness
b18c1 [hr]
I Concur..a B18C1 is over $2000 cheaper than a C5 and for $1200 you can get Type-R cams, pistons and headers...[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]

OR

If you want to go turbo.. a B18B is the best option because it has the strongest internals and lower compression so it can run decent boost stock..
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H22.. Most potential and fastest stock by far. Its also cheaper than both a b18 and b16 I am pretty sure. For more info goto ClubSi read the hybrid forum lots of info there. Traction problems can be handled by better tires....

Edit: This shouldn't be "quick" you need to do LOTS of research and find out which one is the best for you, there are even more options than an h22, b16, b18, jdm, usdm. Some are LsVtec, and CRVtec just read and get as much info before you choose.
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[hr]Originally posted by: Travii
H22.. Most potential and fastest stock by far. Its also cheaper than both a b18 and b16 I am pretty sure. For more info goto ClubSi read the hybrid forum lots of info there. Traction problems can be handled by better tires....

Edit: This shouldn't be "quick" you need to do LOTS of research and find out which one is the best for you, there are even more options than an h22, b16, b18, jdm, usdm. Some are LsVtec, and CRVtec just read and get as much info before you choose.[hr]
H22 ownz!!!!! on a small hatch that thing will fly

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Since were on the topic of JDM Swaps isn't a b18c5 (98 Integra Type R) 210hp/137lb-ft?
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The JDM B18C(5) or the type R starts with 200hp and 137 lb/ft

Edit: Personally I would go B18B and turbo it. I just love the sound of that BOV.
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ok thanks for the engine choice NOW will i have to convert it to US standards or cant i just get it shipped over from jap and drop it in? and what are some other good sites to buy engines and stuff for hatchbacks?
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B18 is the way to go! H22 has to much for daliy driving while b16 doesn't have enough.
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hey go to this link, it shows u everything possible swap and wiring and parts needed, here
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go D17.....
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that's right.... D17 ALL THA WAY!!! [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif[/IMG]
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The revs of a B18 is awesome but I'd much rather take the H22. Great technology with larger dispacent = tourque. If I ever did a swap in my 02 EX it'd def be an H22. My buddy has one and it is and incredible engine. Honda!
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My friend has a h22a swapped in his crx =D its really fast i dunno how it fits but its means as F***
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well i want be to able to pass emissions so i want to know if ill have to convert some stuff when i bring it to the us or not , and i want to be able to slap a turbo on it or super charger and then NOS [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]
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buy a built hybrid engine for as much if not a bit more.

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[hr]Originally posted by: HondaGuru
buy a built hybrid engine for as much if not a bit more.

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12k for a fully built engine with turbo? no thank you , so i take it i dont have to convert to US standards if i drop it in, it will pass the test
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OBD2 b16A2(b16sir2 J-spec) is what you have to stay legal than you need an engine atleast from the same year or newer than the car, most of the JDM motors wont pas smog tests if you are in CA. i suggest you read up A LOT about swaps before you do one.
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[hr]Originally posted by: leadfoot78
OBD2 b16A2(b16sir2 J-spec) is what you have to stay legal than you need an engine atleast from the same year or newer than the car, most of the JDM motors wont pas smog tests if you are in CA. i suggest you read up A LOT about swaps before you do one.[hr]
well im in texas so ill have to check local rules and regs. but thanks for starting me off some where its a 2000 and i want to put a 2000 intergra engine into it so thats a check i guess ? right?
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Yeah, if you are looking for a b series motor that new than the US spec is probably the only choice. There are JDM obd2 type R motors for sale but we are talking 5-6 thusand dollars for that. If you have enough money and hart for something like that we might see your hatch in the import magazines one day. A USDM b16 or b18c will pass smog no prob.
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I'd definitely go with a B18C1
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buy a built hybrid engine for as much if not a bit more.

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12k for a fully built engine with turbo? no thank you , so i take it i dont have to convert to US standards if i drop it in, it will pass the test[hr]

try 4-5K for a 200 WHP NA hybrid motor smart guy.
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get the B16A2. Cheapest I saw was about $1000 for the engine (50k miles) + about $5-600 labor. At least that's how much u can get it for in LA. If u don't have some kind of connections a swap is a total ripoff.

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*taken from import buulders web page*

this would be a good starting point IMO.


Description: "Go with a B20," is what a lot of people are saying nowadays. This is a good block, for a street car looking for the best bang for the buck HP numbers over stock 1.6 and 1.8 liter motors. This block features the following details:
IB Spec Wiseco Pistons, JE pistons, or Arias Pistons. You choose!
Eagle Rods or Probe Rods
Bore, Hone, Hot tank, Deck (if nec)
Balanced Crank
Polished Crank
All new Bearings & Thrusts
All new seals, and Oil pan Gasket
New VTEC oil pump
New VTEC water pump
LS/VTEC Oil line Kit with all fittings
Compressions come in 9:1, 9.4:1, 10.5:1, 11.8:1, 12:1, 12.5:1
Price: $3050 Shipped. For the amount of HP you gain per money spent, you will be hard pressed to better this block choice for the street on pump gas
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