Will Honda ever make a high-performance Civic?
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Will Honda ever make a high-performance Civic?
Just wondering if Honda will ever make high performance version of the Civic. BTW, the 7th generation Si does not count. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-puke.gif[/IMG] It is bland and boring. I was hoping that it would be developed utilizing the coupe concept with aero styling, and matched with a high performance engine and suspension. Seems like of the other automanufacturers are jumping on the bandwagon and making some really cool stuff. I can't imagine WTF Honda was thinking when they made the new Si. Maybe we should petition for such a vehicle. Honda, is this too much to ask for?
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yes it honda..THey have the Si...they have the RSX..they have the S2000 they have the NSX..in case you haven't noticed.. all of Honda's new cars are ULEV's...honda is a company that genuainly cares about the environment..and really enjoys the green friends tax cutbacks for low polution....90% of civics sold are not modified, their just daily drivers for people looking for a peppy reliable inexpensive car that looks good. Catering to the 10% crowd may not be financially fesable to them. I'm sure for the last year of the 7thgens their going to offer a coupe with a K20A3 (si) engine...but it's gonna cost more than base model RSX..
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I'm sure honda will make a "higher performance" version of the Civic. Think about it. Ford has the SVT Focus, Chrysler has the SRT-4 Neon, Soon GM will have the z24 or SS Cavalier, VW has the 1.8T Jetta. I don't think Honda will be left behind and loose a big market.
Hey even the current stock Cavaliers have 140HP and 145lbs torque, the Suzuki Aerio has 145HP and 136lbs torque, the Toyota Corolla has 130HP and 125lbs torque, Saturn ION with 145HP, 145lbs torque, Mazda Protoge 130HP, 135lbs torque, Kia Optima 138HP, 147lbs torque. All of those car are for less than $20,000
Hey even the current stock Cavaliers have 140HP and 145lbs torque, the Suzuki Aerio has 145HP and 136lbs torque, the Toyota Corolla has 130HP and 125lbs torque, Saturn ION with 145HP, 145lbs torque, Mazda Protoge 130HP, 135lbs torque, Kia Optima 138HP, 147lbs torque. All of those car are for less than $20,000
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as long as there is a rsx-s there will not be a really fast civic , what you need to know is its all in the price class for example the high performance focus is out of your price class but in the si price class. and i'd rather have a ugly si then a ugly focus and there is barely a hp differance. also acura beats out the celica and eclipse with the rsx-s
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[hr]Originally posted by: mohawkboom
yes it honda..THey have the Si...they have the RSX..they have the S2000 they have the NSX..in case you haven't noticed.. all of Honda's new cars are ULEV's...honda is a company that genuainly cares about the environment..and really enjoys the green friends tax cutbacks for low polution....90% of civics sold are not modified, their just daily drivers for people looking for a peppy reliable inexpensive car that looks good. Catering to the 10% crowd may not be financially fesable to them. I'm sure for the last year of the 7thgens their going to offer a coupe with a K20A3 (si) engine...but it's gonna cost more than base model RSX..[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: mohawkboom
yes it honda..THey have the Si...they have the RSX..they have the S2000 they have the NSX..in case you haven't noticed.. all of Honda's new cars are ULEV's...honda is a company that genuainly cares about the environment..and really enjoys the green friends tax cutbacks for low polution....90% of civics sold are not modified, their just daily drivers for people looking for a peppy reliable inexpensive car that looks good. Catering to the 10% crowd may not be financially fesable to them. I'm sure for the last year of the 7thgens their going to offer a coupe with a K20A3 (si) engine...but it's gonna cost more than base model RSX..[hr]
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[hr]Originally posted by: sadboy916
as long as there is a rsx-s there will not be a really fast civic , what you need to know is its all in the price class for example the high performance focus is out of your price class but in the si price class. and i'd rather have a ugly si then a ugly focus and there is barely a hp differance. also acura beats out the celica and eclipse with the rsx-s[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: sadboy916
as long as there is a rsx-s there will not be a really fast civic , what you need to know is its all in the price class for example the high performance focus is out of your price class but in the si price class. and i'd rather have a ugly si then a ugly focus and there is barely a hp differance. also acura beats out the celica and eclipse with the rsx-s[hr]
When Honda made the Si first they were thinking about the Civic Type R of course. They have their "high performance Civic" or whatever. We just have it in the form of an RSX Type S. Honda probably isn't going to make another Civic as there are more different types of Civics than any other car in Honda's USDM line. Face it, Honda just dogs us with, "You get what you pay for." Well... excluding the Type S.
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[hr]Originally posted by: LOWBOY
This is a civic here. Not a Camaro or Mustang. The civic has never been nor will ever be a high performancd vehicle.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: LOWBOY
This is a civic here. Not a Camaro or Mustang. The civic has never been nor will ever be a high performancd vehicle.[hr]
besides or you could wait til the 8th generation Civic comes out, I'm sure it'll sport a slightly higher output engine.
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[hr]Originally posted by: Macko
They don't put that big fat red R on the back of the cars for no reason ya know...
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[hr]Originally posted by: Macko
They don't put that big fat red R on the back of the cars for no reason ya know...
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I think the only chance in hay we have lays with the si. Hopefully honda will go back to the coupe for the si model. Big mistake going back to the hatch imo. Hatches were hot for all of like a couple months. Now, you don't hear ish about hatches like you used to. At least I don't.
i hear all the time about eg and ek hatches but they are always with regards to motor swaps. those shells with the right type of motor can give a powerful and light car
edit: lots of talk in the appropriate forum over at hondatech also
edit: lots of talk in the appropriate forum over at hondatech also
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[hr]Originally posted by: CivicRyder
Please don't get me wrong. IMHO, I am not overly thrilled with the looks of the Type R... unless you like a hyped mini-minivan... lol [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG] Seriously, I wish Honda would take the same Type R specs and introduce them to the coupe model. THIS WOULD BE COOL! I persoanlly would be waiting in line to purchase one. Too bad though. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-frown.gif[/IMG][hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: CivicRyder
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[hr]Originally posted by: Macko
They don't put that big fat red R on the back of the cars for no reason ya know...
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[hr]Originally posted by: Macko
They don't put that big fat red R on the back of the cars for no reason ya know...
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Honda should have invested their research and development efforts into to designing an awesome Si coupe model. Now due to low sales, they are stuck with a surplus inventory of mini-minivans. Do you think they have learned a lesson? 



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[hr]Originally posted by: CivicRyder
Honda should have invested their research and development efforts into to designing an awesome Si coupe model. Now due to low sales, they are stuck with a surplus inventory of mini-minivans. Do you think they have learned a lesson?

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[hr]Originally posted by: CivicRyder
Honda should have invested their research and development efforts into to designing an awesome Si coupe model. Now due to low sales, they are stuck with a surplus inventory of mini-minivans. Do you think they have learned a lesson?


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The funny thing is, the new Si is selling just like the old one. When the 99-00 Si first came out, they didn't sell a lot because at first it didn't appeal to buyers. But now, it sells a lot more than it ever did when it was released.
I praise people who love their 7th gens enough to drop $10k+ in upgrades whether it is cosmetic, suspension or power. I however am satisfied enough with the performance. One day if I have tons of money, I'll probably drop that towards a V6 or I6 powered RWD car. Until then, I'm going to depend on 36mpg as I drive over 50 miles a day.
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[hr]Originally posted by: artychris
I praise people who love their 7th gens enough to drop $10k+ in upgrades whether it is cosmetic, suspension or power. I however am satisfied enough with the performance. One day if I have tons of money, I'll probably drop that towards a V6 or I6 powered RWD car. Until then, I'm going to depend on 36mpg as I drive over 50 miles a day.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: artychris
I praise people who love their 7th gens enough to drop $10k+ in upgrades whether it is cosmetic, suspension or power. I however am satisfied enough with the performance. One day if I have tons of money, I'll probably drop that towards a V6 or I6 powered RWD car. Until then, I'm going to depend on 36mpg as I drive over 50 miles a day.[hr]
into it and then trubo it with some nitrous and a booming sound system with a DVD player. But since I only have the 2k1 and I drive 80 miles a day to and from school, and since I only have $400 [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/IMG] in my bank account I will have to keep to the 35 mpg.
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[hr]Originally posted by: Mbow
I think the only chance in hay we have lays with the si. Hopefully honda will go back to the coupe for the si model. Big mistake going back to the hatch imo. Hatches were hot for all of like a couple months. Now, you don't hear ish about hatches like you used to. At least I don't.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: Mbow
I think the only chance in hay we have lays with the si. Hopefully honda will go back to the coupe for the si model. Big mistake going back to the hatch imo. Hatches were hot for all of like a couple months. Now, you don't hear ish about hatches like you used to. At least I don't.[hr]
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