Get to drive an IS300
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Get to drive an IS300
Well.. i traded my civic in for an IS300... ha.. only for a couple weeks.. It's my sisters and i'm getting it tinted for her so i traded cars for a couple weeks.. first off.. OMG! that car has soo much more power.. lol.. 215hp, VVT-I, ECT-I with the push button shifting.. man.. but yeah.. that car is in a completely different class. But i do have to say that my car handles better than the IS.. but the 60-100 time is amazing fast.. def faster than what the civic can do from 60-80, and the thing stops on a dime.. oh well.. definetly a nice car...
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I drove my friend's 2k2 L-tuned series 1. Definetely worth every penny, but it needs a little more power.
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Rep Power: 0 yes, they FEEL fast. hell my friends FELT faster then my Si (off the N20 of course), but i always end up edging him out in the 1/4 mile.
'Im not too impressed for what they cost.
'Im not too impressed for what they cost.
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[hr]Originally posted by: JoeB16
yes, they FEEL fast. hell my friends FELT faster then my Si (off the N20 of course), but i always end up edging him out in the 1/4 mile.
'Im not too impressed for what they cost.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: JoeB16
yes, they FEEL fast. hell my friends FELT faster then my Si (off the N20 of course), but i always end up edging him out in the 1/4 mile.
'Im not too impressed for what they cost.[hr]
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Rep Power: 0 I think people forget that the car isn't ment to be a speed demon. It's a sporty sedan, not a sportscar. If you wanted a car for pure speed and didn't care about the build quality, quiet cabin, refinement, etc then it isn't the car for you... unless you go tubo. For daily driving the car has plenty of power, however I too wish it had more power from the factory. You can definitely get faster cares for alot less money, i.e. WRX, 350Z.
Hey Dogstlye - You think you're Civic handles better? Do you have any suspension mods? Cause I just find that hard to believe.
Hey Dogstlye - You think you're Civic handles better? Do you have any suspension mods? Cause I just find that hard to believe.
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Rep Power: 0 Personally I would NEVER buy an IS300 for that kind of a price tag. If I'm going to fork that much money for a Toyota, I rather get something like a BMW 3 series or even a Mercedes. I don't think Lexus is comparable luxury wise to the 2 auto makers I mentioned. Personally the styling is a bit too boxy for my tastes. The L-Tuned is pretty nice, but it is definately NOT worth every penny. Its an extra what? I forgot the price, but it just has an aggressive body kit, 18's or something and otehr stuff. For that extra price, I rather buy the parts myself aftermarket. Now M3...there's a car that's worth every penny, from inside to outside.
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Rep Power: 293 all that car has is looks and nothing else, 215hp isnt really alot when you compare it with the audis in its class or the WRX which costs less. Dont get me wrong its not that i dont like it, but i really think it needs way more than 215hp......
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[hr]Originally posted by: Unstoppable
I don't think Lexus is comparable luxury wise to the 2 auto makers I mentioned.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: Unstoppable
I don't think Lexus is comparable luxury wise to the 2 auto makers I mentioned.[hr]
Just my $.02
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[hr]Originally posted by: doublins
I don't think you want to hear my opinion... after reading all of your doodoo
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[hr]Originally posted by: doublins
I don't think you want to hear my opinion... after reading all of your doodoo
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on my civic i have T'oser racing coilovers (true) with a 1/2 finger gap all around, neuspeed FSB, DC lower tie, RSX sway, Rear strut bar, dunlop sp. A2's... i can actually take corners faster without slippage.. but that car would eat my civic up any other way though.. duh..
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Rep Power: 0 oh.. and also i got to drive my dad's '03 330i for a couple of weeks.. same reason.. and while it does have more power, it is definetly comparable and NOT in a completely different class.. plus it's about 6k less.. so you take that 6k and add a few goodies.. and it is most definetly comparable..
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[hr]Originally posted by: Unstoppable
Personally I would NEVER buy an IS300 for that kind of a price tag. If I'm going to fork that much money for a Toyota, I rather get something like a BMW 3 series or even a Mercedes. I don't think Lexus is comparable luxury wise to the 2 auto makers I mentioned. Personally the styling is a bit too boxy for my tastes. The L-Tuned is pretty nice, but it is definately NOT worth every penny. Its an extra what? I forgot the price, but it just has an aggressive body kit, 18's or something and otehr stuff. For that extra price, I rather buy the parts myself aftermarket. Now M3...there's a car that's worth every penny, from inside to outside.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: Unstoppable
Personally I would NEVER buy an IS300 for that kind of a price tag. If I'm going to fork that much money for a Toyota, I rather get something like a BMW 3 series or even a Mercedes. I don't think Lexus is comparable luxury wise to the 2 auto makers I mentioned. Personally the styling is a bit too boxy for my tastes. The L-Tuned is pretty nice, but it is definately NOT worth every penny. Its an extra what? I forgot the price, but it just has an aggressive body kit, 18's or something and otehr stuff. For that extra price, I rather buy the parts myself aftermarket. Now M3...there's a car that's worth every penny, from inside to outside.[hr]
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Rep Power: 0 Did you drive an e-shift or a 5-speed? The 5-speeds have better stock suspension setups, plus, I threw on a set of Eibach sways, and that thing is FLAT AS HELL now [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/IMG]
I may be biased, but I love my IS.
BTW,
auto IS3's dyno around 165-175 RWHP stock
man IS3's dyno around 180-185 RWHP stock
which did you drive?
mine is at 214 RWHP which equates to ~245-250 at the crank.
Not bad for a 3L engine with a few bolt ons and an A/F controller.
-for now... my s/c is on backorder...
once that's on there, I will have the supreme M killer, at about 75% of the cost [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/IMG]
I may be biased, but I love my IS.
BTW,
auto IS3's dyno around 165-175 RWHP stock
man IS3's dyno around 180-185 RWHP stock
which did you drive?
mine is at 214 RWHP which equates to ~245-250 at the crank.
Not bad for a 3L engine with a few bolt ons and an A/F controller.
-for now... my s/c is on backorder...
once that's on there, I will have the supreme M killer, at about 75% of the cost [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/IMG]
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Rep Power: 0 oh yah and that reliability thing...
I guess lexus does suck- that's why lexus and toyota consistantly come in first and second in JD Power quality and reliability studies.
Toyota makes the best engines in the world, hands down.
Ask those bimmer owners that keep blowing their engines up what they think of german reliability.
-C
I guess lexus does suck- that's why lexus and toyota consistantly come in first and second in JD Power quality and reliability studies.
Toyota makes the best engines in the world, hands down.
Ask those bimmer owners that keep blowing their engines up what they think of german reliability.
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Rep Power: 0 Lexus is great, not much shortcuts are taken on these cars.
as for IS300, 2001 is kinda toyota econobox-ish in fit and finish, but 2002+ a lot better.
Personally G35 or G35 Coupe would be much much better buys.
as for IS300, 2001 is kinda toyota econobox-ish in fit and finish, but 2002+ a lot better.
Personally G35 or G35 Coupe would be much much better buys.
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Rep Power: 0 whats "doodoo" is estimated Hp figures and "future modifications".
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BTW, I like how you said this car wasnt meant to be a sports car, when thats exactly what Touota markets it as in its US commercials (why does the IS300 drive like a sports car? Because it IS a sports car!)
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[hr]think people forget that the car isn't ment to be a speed demon. It's a sporty sedan, not a sportscar[hr]
[hr]think people forget that the car isn't ment to be a speed demon. It's a sporty sedan, not a sportscar[hr]
BTW, I like how you said this car wasnt meant to be a sports car, when thats exactly what Touota markets it as in its US commercials (why does the IS300 drive like a sports car? Because it IS a sports car!)
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Rep Power: 0 IS300 is one nice car.. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]
it has tons of potential too.. look here
One of the car with that Stage 5.5 is featured in Turbo magazine.. here
Hey Dublin, how much is the SC cost? is it cheaper than the turbo kits? (which retail around $6500, except for Toyomoto I guess)
it has tons of potential too.. look here
One of the car with that Stage 5.5 is featured in Turbo magazine.. here
Hey Dublin, how much is the SC cost? is it cheaper than the turbo kits? (which retail around $6500, except for Toyomoto I guess)
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[hr]Originally posted by: Mbow
Drive an LS430 and you will see just how ignorant you are...LS430 definately kills bmw and mercedes in quality and reliability when comparing competing models...Lexus not comparable..LOL[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: Mbow
Drive an LS430 and you will see just how ignorant you are...LS430 definately kills bmw and mercedes in quality and reliability when comparing competing models...Lexus not comparable..LOL[hr]
MRSP LS 430 - $54925.00
MRSP M3 2dr Cpe - $46500.00
MRSP MB C Class 3.2 L AMG - $50400.00
For the price of the LS430, I'll take a M3 anyday. To each to their own. I personally don't think a Toyota is worth that much. Don't get me wrong, Toyota is Japan's top auto maker and they make some great reliable engines. However, when I look for a luxurious car in the $45-$60 K region, I would look for an European car. Actually there is one Lexus that I think is pretty sweet. The SC 430, I love the tail lights on that one.
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Rep Power: 0 WTF, I wasn't comparing a luxo boat to a sports car. LOL I was commenting on your statement about lexus in general. Lexus makes an awesome car. I like the cheaper ones but have experience with the 430 in particular. Lexus just says I have money w/o the hey look at me kinda thing.
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Rep Power: 0 Mbow - Guess I misunderstood your statement though. You do bring up a good point though. At least if I drive a Lexus, I would be less worry about someone pointing a gun at me and jacking my car which is extremely common for BMW and MB's around where I live.
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[hr]Originally posted by: JoeB16
whats "doodoo" is estimated Hp figures and "future modifications".
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BTW, I like how you said this car wasnt meant to be a sports car, when thats exactly what Touota markets it as in its US commercials (why does the IS300 drive like a sports car? Because it IS a sports car!)
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[hr]Originally posted by: JoeB16
whats "doodoo" is estimated Hp figures and "future modifications".
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[hr]think people forget that the car isn't ment to be a speed demon. It's a sporty sedan, not a sportscar[hr]
[hr]think people forget that the car isn't ment to be a speed demon. It's a sporty sedan, not a sportscar[hr]
BTW, I like how you said this car wasnt meant to be a sports car, when thats exactly what Touota markets it as in its US commercials (why does the IS300 drive like a sports car? Because it IS a sports car!)
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However you're not going to find it in any head-to-head comparison test in Car and Driver against an M3, cause it's not. Marketing gurus ad ideas and reality are two different things. I don't believe that Taco Bell has done something incredible by using 4 cheeses, but I understand that they're trying to get me to try it. They're ads.
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Rep Power: 0 No, but you WILL find it head to head with the likes of the 330Cl sport.
Susposedly Toyota is thinking of shoe-horning in a 300+ BHP V8 into the IS (will then be the IS430). THAT will get my attention, not this 3 series wanabe.
Susposedly Toyota is thinking of shoe-horning in a 300+ BHP V8 into the IS (will then be the IS430). THAT will get my attention, not this 3 series wanabe.
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Rep Power: 0 all i know, joe, is that my "3 series wannabe" will still rape the hell out of your SI in pretty much any category except winter weather handling.
That is all.
That is all.
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Rep Power: 0 bwuahahhaha very true doublin..... i think guru is fvcking jealous he got a lousy SI. u must be dumb as a motherfvcker dissing an IS, knowing that you only drive a Civic SI .... bwuahahhahaha
hahahahha crushed his As$. [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]
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