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Old Oct 24, 2002
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2003 Toyota Matrix XRS!!

I don't know if this has been posted before, and I don't really care, but either way I'm reading an ad for the new 2003 Toyota Matrix XRS right now, and this little thing has a DOHC 180hp, 8100rpm redline engine, and a 6spd tranny?!!!! Am I the only one saying, WHAT THE F_CK?!!!

man did we get ripped with performance on our cars...
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cool, got a pic?
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corect me if im wrong but.. i dont think thats anything new. the 02 XRS has that same engine. its the same engine as the celica gts.. i think.
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corect me if im wrong but.. i dont think thats anything new. the 02 XRS has that same engine. its the same engine as the celica gts.. i think.[hr]
you are correct
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your right no new changes on the Matrix and its a fun car to drive i test drove one for the he!! of it and it was pretty fast and that 6th gear was awesome maybe the fact that there was one
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honda really need to get in gear, they sould've made a coupe si, because the hatch is as ugly as poop
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Has a honda civic ever been about performance?
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[hr]Originally posted by: Smokie2k2LX
Has a honda civic ever been about performance?[hr]
S2000, ITR, CTR, NSX
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Matrix sits too high like an SUV.
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[hr]Originally posted by: Smokie2k2LX
Has a honda civic ever been about performance?[hr]
S2000, ITR, CTR, NSX[hr]
I said civic
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Old Oct 24, 2002
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what can i say? every car company is coming out a decent engine to start off the line, if we dont do something to our civic its not gonna be pretty
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thats just it, we can't.
these civics are 4 getten groceries
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mmmmm. why compare civics with matrix or any other category out there? should we be comparing civics with corollas, focus and sentras? evenif these cars have bigger engines and have more hps, there is still si in the market, right? sure the current si looks odd, but it still has more hp than ex, lx, and dx models. for one, civics were made to be an econo car, except civic type r which is not being sold here in america.

time will come after market parts for 7th gen civics arrive. the question is, will these parts ever arrive?
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[hr]Originally posted by: noypirider
mmmmm. why compare civics with matrix or any other category out there? should we be comparing civics with corollas, focus and sentras? evenif these cars have bigger engines and have more hps, there is still si in the market, right? sure the current si looks odd, but it still has more hp than ex, lx, and dx models. for one, civics were made to be an econo car, except civic type r which is not being sold here in america.

time will come after market parts for 7th gen civics arrive. the question is, will these parts ever arrive?[hr]
Unfortunatly, the SI gets trounced by the Sentra SeR Spev-V [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-frown.gif[/IMG]
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[hr]Originally posted by: WhopSi
I don't know if this has been posted before, and I don't really care, but either way I'm reading an ad for the new 2003 Toyota Matrix XRS right now, and this little thing has a DOHC 180hp, 8100rpm redline engine, and a 6spd tranny?!!!! Am I the only one saying, WHAT THE F_CK?!!!

man did we get ripped with performance on our cars...[hr]
No. We didn't get ripped off because none of us paid over $17k for our cars. ( or at least I hope not ). The top of the line Matrix costs like $25k or $28k or something. You'd be getting ripped off if you actually spend that much money on 180HP and sloppy suspension.
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[hr]Originally posted by: n00dleboy
Matrix sits too high like an SUV. [hr]
i'm gonna hafta disagree with you on that. the matrix sits too high like a freakin' VAN. at least SUV's have high ground clearance to match their size
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[hr]man did we get ripped with performance on our cars...[hr]
I said we got ripped with performance, not price.
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[hr]Originally posted by: Smokie2k2LX
Has a honda civic ever been about performance?[hr]
S2000, ITR, CTR, NSX[hr]
my bad i guess i should starting learning to read...
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[hr]Originally posted by: beej
thats just it, we can't.
these civics are 4 getten groceries[hr]
and picking up chicks.
beer runs
pizza runs
road trips
having s3x inside... sedans anyhooo... coupes are too small......
hanging out
beating to shiete
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[hr]Originally posted by: noypirider
mmmmm. why compare civics with matrix or any other category out there? should we be comparing civics with corollas, focus and sentras? evenif these cars have bigger engines and have more hps, there is still si in the market, right? sure the current si looks odd, but it still has more hp than ex, lx, and dx models. for one, civics were made to be an econo car, except civic type r which is not being sold here in america.

time will come after market parts for 7th gen civics arrive. the question is, will these parts ever arrive?[hr]

Civic Si is the same price (or more) than the mighty Matrix XRS. They are both tallish hatchbacks. They are both aimed at younger people. I think it's fair to say that you can cross shop a Civic & Matrix.
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