If you don't like the civic....
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If you don't like the civic....
Don't buy it! I have been hearing a lot lately about how the 7th gen rattles, hasn't been improved since it came out, isn't fast enough, blah blah blah. If you knew this, why in the hell did you buy the car?? If you didn't know that, you're not that intelligent for not researching cars before you buy them. The only thing good I hear about the car is good gas mileage. Well, news flash, the Honda Civic is not the only vehicle on the market with fairly good gas mileage. Either sell your car and buy something else or quit bit ching about it all the time. Complaining is good in that it helps bring issues to the company, but if they haven't fixed a known problem in 3 years well quit buying the car!!
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Rep Power: 0 Venting, are we? I'm sure that most people who bought the car were taking into account Honda's history of reliability and the ability of modifying them, as seen from previous models. After all, the car is still new, and all the bugs don't show up in the first week of production, that's just the way it is...So I think everyone has a right to complain.
But for me, I'm happy with my 6th gen
But for me, I'm happy with my 6th gen
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[hr]Originally posted by: TwilightX
Venting, are we? I'm sure that most people who bought the car were taking into account Honda's history of reliability and the ability of modifying them, as seen from previous models. After all, the car is still new, and all the bugs don't show up in the first week of production, that's just the way it is...So I think everyone has a right to complain.
But for me, I'm happy with my 6th gen[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: TwilightX
Venting, are we? I'm sure that most people who bought the car were taking into account Honda's history of reliability and the ability of modifying them, as seen from previous models. After all, the car is still new, and all the bugs don't show up in the first week of production, that's just the way it is...So I think everyone has a right to complain.
But for me, I'm happy with my 6th gen
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Rep Power: 415 hey mohawk do me a favor next time you hear that scratching sound you are talking about... try bumping your brake pedal to the left... i have this little scratching sound that is coming from my dash area somewhere but it magically goes away when i push the brake pedal to the left... and i mean, push it from the side, you dont have to apply your brakes to do this... just try that and see if it stops your scratchy noise.
I took it to honda and heard it scratching but the honda guy couldn't hear it... honestly i think you have to have sensitive ears to actually hear it.
now - ducatti - your post is kinda... silly. I LOVE my car. I look at it every chance i get because it brings me joy that I am in the long process of fully owning it. It is really nice, fun to drive, LX has lots of features, great gas mileage even when i lead foot everywhere... its a great car. Yes it rattles and some people have alot more complaints than me, but i can speak for myself when I say that interior rattles are NOT a big problem... at least im not broken down on the side of the road like so many new sunfires and jeeps.
I took it to honda and heard it scratching but the honda guy couldn't hear it... honestly i think you have to have sensitive ears to actually hear it.
now - ducatti - your post is kinda... silly. I LOVE my car. I look at it every chance i get because it brings me joy that I am in the long process of fully owning it. It is really nice, fun to drive, LX has lots of features, great gas mileage even when i lead foot everywhere... its a great car. Yes it rattles and some people have alot more complaints than me, but i can speak for myself when I say that interior rattles are NOT a big problem... at least im not broken down on the side of the road like so many new sunfires and jeeps.
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Rep Power: 0 I'm curious, what problem were you referring to Ducati? 3 years ago makes it a 6th gen in my model trim, not like the 99's or 00's, so what are you talking about? I've had very little wrong, aside from the window crank issue that pops up all the time in 6th gens...[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG]
Truth be told, and I think this is what your main issue is, the aftermarket industry is just not totally ready to invest into R&D for the car. It's too new, which makes it a risky candidate. Give it time! It'll have its day soon enough... there are so many things for the 5th gens, not as many for the 6th gens, and hardly any for 7th...see?
Truth be told, and I think this is what your main issue is, the aftermarket industry is just not totally ready to invest into R&D for the car. It's too new, which makes it a risky candidate. Give it time! It'll have its day soon enough... there are so many things for the 5th gens, not as many for the 6th gens, and hardly any for 7th...see?
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Rep Power: 0 I wasn't flaming, I was just reading a post on how everyone was saying since 2001 they had rattles or something? I wasn't complaining about mine, I love my Civic, it just seems like a lot of people are complaining and I dont understand why they bought the car in the first place...Of course if you bought the 2001 model there is no way you could've known, but people with 2002 and 2003 have to have known about the problems so why buy it? I have absolutley no problem, but I hear an awful lot of people who constantly go on about it... EDIT #2 [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG] I meant 2 years sorry, I was talking about the rattles...
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Human nature will dictate that once you have something, you want something better. Even the guy with a 911 Turbo. There's just no way to stop it. Once the new car envy wears off and you're no longer bragging that you have the newest, coolest car on the block, it just becomes your car. This is about the same point as the, "It's not perfect" syndrome sets in. I know this because I have it right now. I can find any little tiny problem to nit pick about, but when it all boils down, the damn thing is still running great, still getting 40 MPG, and is still faster, yes, I said it, still faster than my old car. So I cannot complain too much about my car itself. Just the fact that the dealer sucks, but that's beside the point. Even when you get your RSX-S, you'll be wishing you just dropped the extra $4000 on a 350Z. Then you get that, and wish you just bought the M3, and so on, until you're driving a Ferrari Enzo, or McLaren F1 where your next step is probably to just buy an F-18 Jet. Just face it, you bought your Civic because it runs forever and gets great gas milage, or you just bought the wrong damn car.
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Rep Power: 415 heh i know you werent flaming but your post was still silly [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]
lots of people will think you were flaming coz of your usage of, "why the hell did you buy the car??"
I think i kinda answered you with my post as to what my reasoning to buying and/or keeping the car... and i have lots of problems with rattles but they just arent a big enough problem to dislike the car over.
lots of people will think you were flaming coz of your usage of, "why the hell did you buy the car??"
I think i kinda answered you with my post as to what my reasoning to buying and/or keeping the car... and i have lots of problems with rattles but they just arent a big enough problem to dislike the car over.
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[hr]Originally posted by: Boilermaker1
Human nature will dictate that once you have something, you want something better. Even the guy with a 911 Turbo. There's just no way to stop it. Once the new car envy wears off and you're no longer bragging that you have the newest, coolest car on the block, it just becomes your car. This is about the same point as the, "It's not perfect" syndrome sets in. I know this because I have it right now. I can find any little tiny problem to nit pick about, but when it all boils down, the damn thing is still running great, still getting 40 MPG, and is still faster, yes, I said it, still faster than my old car. So I cannot complain too much about my car itself. Just the fact that the dealer sucks, but that's beside the point. Even when you get your RSX-S, you'll be wishing you just dropped the extra $4000 on a 350Z. Then you get that, and wish you just bought the M3, and so on, until you're driving a Ferrari Enzo, or McLaren F1 where your next step is probably to just buy an F-18 Jet. Just face it, you bought your Civic because it runs forever and gets great gas milage, or you just bought the wrong damn car.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: Boilermaker1
Human nature will dictate that once you have something, you want something better. Even the guy with a 911 Turbo. There's just no way to stop it. Once the new car envy wears off and you're no longer bragging that you have the newest, coolest car on the block, it just becomes your car. This is about the same point as the, "It's not perfect" syndrome sets in. I know this because I have it right now. I can find any little tiny problem to nit pick about, but when it all boils down, the damn thing is still running great, still getting 40 MPG, and is still faster, yes, I said it, still faster than my old car. So I cannot complain too much about my car itself. Just the fact that the dealer sucks, but that's beside the point. Even when you get your RSX-S, you'll be wishing you just dropped the extra $4000 on a 350Z. Then you get that, and wish you just bought the M3, and so on, until you're driving a Ferrari Enzo, or McLaren F1 where your next step is probably to just buy an F-18 Jet. Just face it, you bought your Civic because it runs forever and gets great gas milage, or you just bought the wrong damn car.[hr]
And another note, when does the rattling start? Right when you drive it off the lot? Because I have never heard it on my care but I only have 5k miles on it...
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[hr]Originally posted by: Brill
hey mohawk do me a favor next time you hear that scratching sound you are talking about... try bumping your brake pedal to the left... i have this little scratching sound that is coming from my dash area somewhere but it magically goes away when i push the brake pedal to the left... and i mean, push it from the side, you dont have to apply your brakes to do this... just try that and see if it stops your scratchy noise.
I took it to honda and heard it scratching but the honda guy couldn't hear it... honestly i think you have to have sensitive ears to actually hear it.
now - ducatti - your post is kinda... silly. I LOVE my car. I look at it every chance i get because it brings me joy that I am in the long process of fully owning it. It is really nice, fun to drive, LX has lots of features, great gas mileage even when i lead foot everywhere... its a great car. Yes it rattles and some people have alot more complaints than me, but i can speak for myself when I say that interior rattles are NOT a big problem... at least im not broken down on the side of the road like so many new sunfires and jeeps.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: Brill
hey mohawk do me a favor next time you hear that scratching sound you are talking about... try bumping your brake pedal to the left... i have this little scratching sound that is coming from my dash area somewhere but it magically goes away when i push the brake pedal to the left... and i mean, push it from the side, you dont have to apply your brakes to do this... just try that and see if it stops your scratchy noise.
I took it to honda and heard it scratching but the honda guy couldn't hear it... honestly i think you have to have sensitive ears to actually hear it.
now - ducatti - your post is kinda... silly. I LOVE my car. I look at it every chance i get because it brings me joy that I am in the long process of fully owning it. It is really nice, fun to drive, LX has lots of features, great gas mileage even when i lead foot everywhere... its a great car. Yes it rattles and some people have alot more complaints than me, but i can speak for myself when I say that interior rattles are NOT a big problem... at least im not broken down on the side of the road like so many new sunfires and jeeps.[hr]
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Rep Power: 0 I agree with Ducatti. I'm quite sick of ppl posting negative comments on their cars. Right, once is funny, twice is still humorous, but posts after posts of complaining about the performance (or lack thereof) of the 7th gen is just annoying. You got the car, if you don't like it, get rid of it, if you can't get rid of it, live with it. Some of us do feel good about our cars, not necessarily about the 1.7 115/127hp engines, but it does beat any 2.0 115hp engines like the Proteges and them Domestic small cars (2.2L to get 122hp on an old Sunfire?); I don't care about the exact numbers, so don't be flaming these approximations.
Say what you will about the car, even if you want to vent how powerless it is, just don't be making discussions out of it in useless posts like this one.
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Say what you will about the car, even if you want to vent how powerless it is, just don't be making discussions out of it in useless posts like this one.
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Rep Power: 0 I for one got rid of my 7th gen mainly for the fact that my transmission and brakes were going, at 18,000 miles. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/IMG] Add to that the rattling and other minor tid-bits that just irked me everyday, I just said to heck with it and sold it.
Everyone has their own opinion for real, but the bashing really is getting old. All I can say is you should of done research into the car before you bought it if you thought it was going to be "really fast" or "awesome to mod". It has its pros and cons, and in no way am I bashing my 7th gen, as it was a nice car while I had it, its just when the problems came they all came at once.
And for whoever was asking I believe Ducatti's avatar is from Super Mario Bros. 2...I may be wrong tho
Everyone has their own opinion for real, but the bashing really is getting old. All I can say is you should of done research into the car before you bought it if you thought it was going to be "really fast" or "awesome to mod". It has its pros and cons, and in no way am I bashing my 7th gen, as it was a nice car while I had it, its just when the problems came they all came at once.
And for whoever was asking I believe Ducatti's avatar is from Super Mario Bros. 2...I may be wrong tho
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Rep Power: 0 No, our engines cannot beat the 2L Protege engine... and our engines also have way less torque than the Protege. But ours does get better gas mileage.
But the best small car engine right now is the one in the new Corolla: more power and more torque, AND even with that, it gets better gas mileage than us (compared to our EX VTEC's)... AND that's even on their cheapest model
. Not too crazy about the way it looks though...
But the best small car engine right now is the one in the new Corolla: more power and more torque, AND even with that, it gets better gas mileage than us (compared to our EX VTEC's)... AND that's even on their cheapest model
. Not too crazy about the way it looks though...
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[hr]Originally posted by: XoULaBeAT
this is a stupid topic. i drive a civic, dun really care if it's fast/slow
at least i have a CAR. geez.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: XoULaBeAT
this is a stupid topic. i drive a civic, dun really care if it's fast/slow
at least i have a CAR. geez.[hr]
from a rod being thrown.
I got my lil LX for 13 grand. Thats right 13 grand with everything included (brand new,tax,tags, everything,even got free gas).
Im just happy im not drivin the Lebaron anymore.
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Rep Power: 0 Dunno about anyone else, but I bought mine for the fuel efficiency. That's why I chose the HX. I drive about 30,000 miles a year so MPG is very important to me. Once I get enough money saved I'll consider getting another V8 for a weekend car.
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Rep Power: 343 ya know what i find most amusing about this topic is the fact that the people that bich about there cars MOST of them own 2001's. Did no one ever here of the first model after the redesign whoas?? look at 95 Eclipses, they are a nightmare. Look at 94 Neons Nightmares, 2000 focus's nitghmares. Its normal for a first year of a new car to be a peice. All you people with 2001's are guinee pigs for me with my 2002, i haven't had a problem yet (i have almost 11,000 miles), no rattle, no stall, no rust, no paint falling off, nuthing. You were the one who bought a first year run car, now you suffer the consiquences. you should have relized that before you purchased the car, or waited a year like i did
i have an 02, and no problems, except for that the doors rattle, but that's cause my aftermarket HU bumps up the power. once I install my new speakers/amp and put in some dynamat or BB, i'm pretty sure that'll fix it. even civics have problems in the first year, look for the problems associated with the 96 and 97 models
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well that's 15 seconds of my life wasted in reading this[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: mohawkboom
well that's 15 seconds of my life wasted in reading this[hr]
note: I know I did my background research on our cars before i got them, i took the risk of getting the cheapest (very cheap, dirt cheap) deal at dealership in the middle of nowehere for a brand new civic, even though i new the potential problems that had occured with some of our drivers. In the long run I am happy I took the risk otherwise.
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Rep Power: 0 I am happy with my 2001 civic. Since buying it in december 2000. I have put 31,900 miles on it and the only problem I have had is they had to replace the front driver side strut when I first got it.
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[hr]Originally posted by: Hawk
ya know what i find most amusing about this topic is the fact that the people that bich about there cars MOST of them own 2001's. Did no one ever here of the first model after the redesign whoas?? look at 95 Eclipses, they are a nightmare. Look at 94 Neons Nightmares, 2000 focus's nitghmares. Its normal for a first year of a new car to be a peice. All you people with 2001's are guinee pigs for me with my 2002, i haven't had a problem yet (i have almost 11,000 miles), no rattle, no stall, no rust, no paint falling off, nuthing. You were the one who bought a first year run car, now you suffer the consiquences. you should have relized that before you purchased the car, or waited a year like i did[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: Hawk
ya know what i find most amusing about this topic is the fact that the people that bich about there cars MOST of them own 2001's. Did no one ever here of the first model after the redesign whoas?? look at 95 Eclipses, they are a nightmare. Look at 94 Neons Nightmares, 2000 focus's nitghmares. Its normal for a first year of a new car to be a peice. All you people with 2001's are guinee pigs for me with my 2002, i haven't had a problem yet (i have almost 11,000 miles), no rattle, no stall, no rust, no paint falling off, nuthing. You were the one who bought a first year run car, now you suffer the consiquences. you should have relized that before you purchased the car, or waited a year like i did
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Sorry, but the Focus is just another example of how Ford USA is not focused on quality. The Focus pretty much was brought over from eurpoe to replace the escort. I first heard of the focus in 98 cause my friend went to Germany to visit family and those things were more popular then vw's. Don't forget the focus was at one time the number one car outside of the united states followed by the Jetta. What this may mean is Ford USA build quilty is lower the Ford Eurpoe. Either way there shouldn't have been any problems with the Focus when it hit the states. It can't be the difficult to make a care left drive.
As for civics being slow... when have you seen a stock soch 4cyl na engine put out a lot of hp? The best that you can hope for from a "D" series engine is more torque. Soch head on a small displacment engine = lesser tunablity. Its the nature of the beast so to speak. We all know that the head is the bottle neck on our cars. I drive my civc for gas milage. My lude is for speed[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG]
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Rep Power: 0 I have to agree with Mohawk on this one...not to mention the fact that there are some of us who bought 2k1s when they first came out and not a whole lot of this info was readily available...these people include me, so please just shut up and move on...if people are buying civics now and complaining about them being slow and whatever, they should be shot, but the first people who bought them do have a right to complain, cuz we probably bought a civic for a REASON, we aren't rich fvcks!
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[hr] Did no one ever here of the first model after the redesign whoas??[hr]
[hr] Did no one ever here of the first model after the redesign whoas??[hr]
Even Car&Driver complained about the quality on the recent test. Honda doesn't even bother to make their car right before it goes to the press people. I wonder how much they care about quality nowadays.
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[hr]Sorry, but the Focus is just another example of how Ford USA is not focused on quality. The Focus pretty much was brought over from eurpoe to replace the escort.[hr]
[hr]Sorry, but the Focus is just another example of how Ford USA is not focused on quality. The Focus pretty much was brought over from eurpoe to replace the escort.[hr]
