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...drift? with our cars being front wheel drive and front weight distribution it should be easy. i've been "experimenting..." (<---mind the quotations...) and was wondering how far do you have to crank the wheel to induce drift? is it because our cars are so understeer that you have to crank the wheel initially to induce the drift? i tried like a 1/3 of a full turn of the steering wheel and josie (my car) wouldn't kick out. the serious audio in the back is probably not helping but i wanted to get some input for all of you ppl. i'm trying this on a 2 lane exit ramp off the freeway. it's big and flat enough so josie can drift sideways and not roll over? any "constructive" or informative comments?

anyone here double clutch to match engine speed when down shifting on the drift? thanks.

 
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fwd is not an easy car to drift in. rwd is the easiest.

 
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Ask Grey, he's been practicing...I can tell you from personal experience riding shotgun, his power drifts are really coming along...he's been testing the limits of his car beyond what I've been able to accomplish. Must be the new gloves he has [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]

T-X

 
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Yeah, it's easier to drift RRD cars because since the rear tires are always spinning with no traction, they slide everywhere. Our tires are "planted" to the groud, so they're harder to drift. As a matter of fact, I don't know fi you can drift our cars very well. Hmmm... [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG]

 
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Drifting in a FWD car isn't a good idea, trust me I've had very bad experiences in attempting it. If you push the car too hard and the rear wheels lose traction, you are basically at the will of the vehicle, its very hard to regain control in a FWD. Just my 2 cents.

 
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You obviously have NO idea what you're talking about.

 
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for the record, lol, a drift can only be done with rear drive wheels, by definition a drift is a powered slide where modulating the throttle controls your attitude. Front wheel drive cars do POWER SLIDES, i.e. where the drive wheels stay inline with the direction of motion of the vehicle. And yes, rear wheel drive and awd cars are easier to slide out the back ends on. Peace

 
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I hate this ****ing interface! I had a nice response typed up. I hit "Reply to Thread" and nothing came up. Then I hit the back button and the contents of the Message Text disappeared! [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/IMG]

Here's the only thing left from my response that's saved. Any questions? [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]

 
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Here is what you need to drift: Very little fear, a vehicle, and a turn.......... Thats about it.

Speak to Grey. He goes out every night at 4 AM and tries to take off ramps at 90. Be careful though, if you're anything like him, you may need to pound out some dents in your rims after taking some corners.......... [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]

Oh, and the gloves are KEY!

 
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Yeah, gloves and cahones the size of texas mang...dass what ju gotta do...

 
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You cannot drift in a front wheel drive vehicle. You can induce a tail-slide by hitting the brakes, losing traction in the rear (or an e-brake tail slide), but drifting is something that ONLY can be done on FR cars.

The reason is that drifting is a state where you never have complete rear-wheel traction throughout the turn (which is compensated by countersteering). On an FF car you can induce the initial tail-slide, but the car regains rear traction quickly since the power is transmitted through the front. The rear wheels quickly adjust to gain traction, since no power is being transmitted to the wheels from the engine.

Drifting and FF don't go together. Its called tail-sliding.

-Aki

 
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I guess I do tail sliding then, but may I quote...

 
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Well whatever you want to call it, it's still freakin cool to have the tail swing out when taking a corner at a high rate of speed if you know how to control it.

Bottom line, if you know how to either power slide, drift, or tail slide consistantly and in full control, you're that much ahead of the game to knowing exactly what the limits of your car are.

I've done a power slide several times, once almost losing control, so I'm not quite there in my learning. Hell, I think everyone should know basic recovery methods in their cars, whether it be in an emergency situation, or just plain messing around. Knowing the limits of your car will help teach you to be a better driver. I'm not saying push it to the max, but I'm in full favor of everyone going to an aggressive driving course to teach you the basics. I think we'd have a lot less people locking up their breaks in the snow, or people hydroplaning across three lane highways if people knew a little more...

T-X

Wow, don't that look like an old school hatch doing a drift... [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/IMG]

 
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hey grey, have you seen initial D? it's sick right!?! if you go here they got pics along with the tex on how to drift a FWD vehicle. i should increase my speed eh? like 80 then? how much do i have to crank the wheel initially to induce the slide while braking? again....constructive criticism please. tenks.

 
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Well then prove me wrong and write something intelligent, instead of wasting space with your worthless contribution to this thread

And isn't one of the goals of drifting to "lose" traction to in a controlled manner?

 
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Yeah, I've watched the whole Initial D series once. I'm on my second time around now! I love it. I even drove around with a cup of water for a while. I'll do it again if I can find a cup that fits perfectly in my car. Anyway... I looked through that whole site, but I couldn't find an article on FWD drifting. Can you link it?

Yeah, I increase my speed to initiate the drift. After reading that page I think my style of drifting or "*** dragging" as the RWD haters call it is like this:

Everything except for the neutral balance is true. That's why I usually have to do this at 50+mph. It's probably also why I can't do it through longer than a 90 degree turn. I guess I would need to go into the turn at a lower speed and use the e-brake to carry the drift through more than a 90 degree turn. Now I get why they call it *** dragging. I wonder if there's another way? Hmm...

 
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http://www.driftsession.com/technique.htm

 
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Yeah, I saw that. Where do you think I got the quote? Nothing on FWD drifting there though...