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red lining LX is this good or bad
ok today i redlined my automatic LX, when i stomped on the petal trying to pass an annoying neon with type R sticker, I've never done this before and was wondering if this could lead to problems to my engine. I know that i've seen my friends redline the engine but was wondering what the purpose was to doing this, and how long u can leave ur stock LX at redline for. sooner or later i'm gonna drop turbo, i/h/c, and new internals components to my engine, just need to reseach and get to know more about fixing and installing t in my civic.

 
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I redline my car at least 5 times a day...

 
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Seems like you have to redline it just to get the thing up and moving. I'm constantly running the **** out of it everyday. Honda's have been proven to take punishment like that. I don't know if they do it anymore, but they use to run the car at redline 24/7 just to prove it's durability. At least that's what the old commercials said. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]

 
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With ur knowledge aobut cars I sure hope u dont drop a turbo in..

 
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rofl!!!!!!

 
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why do ppl ask stupid questions and then say they are going to put a turbo in their car. Only the very knowledgable should be droping turbos in their cars. Its like this kid i know with an auto camry with nitrous

 
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I second that comotion. Unbelievable. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG]

 
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Hey rowdy Im betting u didnt know that all forced induction including nitrous is faster on an automatic. Im also betting that you didnt know that most nitrous comps. reccomned having an automatic tranny when using nitrous.

 
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I've been thinking about this, and does it only make sense to me that if civic automatics came in 5-speeds, and had the same ratios as a manual, it'd have the fastest ET possible without going over the line? Am I wrong here? Do they just do this to make manuals have an advantage vs. auto's. Just logic vs. reality.

 
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and yet id rather have the better acceleration of driving standard when im not juicing (easily verified from posts about people complaining their autos only run 18 and stock standards pulling high 15s). actually IMO the standard gearbox is on a higher level than auto trannies (in road cars)...in terms of skill needed, etc. you get a better feel for your car when its standard. ill stick with my 5 spd thanks.

also, if you think all FI is better on automatics, look at the wrx. the standard one owns the auto. a line from a car & driver review of the auto wrx was "the automatic transmission is sluggish at best."


also, and correct me if im wrong, but nitrous isnt FI...its a fuel additive.

 
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A camary with N20??

 
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[IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG] This thread is quality

 
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i believe the thing is that the auto tranny cant handle as close gearing as a standard gearbox can. im not sure on this please verify.

 
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No, in that case the manual would still be faster than the automatic. The reason is that standard transmissions suffer less drivetrain loss than automatic transmissions (i.e. it takes less hp to transfer the power to the wheels using a standard transmission).

 
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Like I've said before, if you want to kill your engine, drive around at redline a lot. I always revved out my '99 DX and the engine died in 80,000 miles - wrist pin knock in the #2 cylinder.

Althought redlinging every now and then is not a big deal, engines aren't meant to be driven around screaming all the time.

With a slushbox tranny you'll probably be okay since they don't usually let you stay at redline for extended periods of time.

 
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like i stated in my post, I do not know alot about cares thats why i'm studying stuff about my honda before i install parts into it, All i wanted to know was a legitimate answer of why one needs to redline a car???

is it because u need get more torque.
But what does it do to the engine.

 
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"why do ppl ask stupid questions and then say they are going to put a turbo in their car. Only the very knowledgable should be droping turbos in their cars. Its like this kid i know with an auto camry with nitrous "

If u read the my post thoroughtly, i state that I will research more about cars before I install anything into it, I never claimed to be an automotive genous as of yet. thats why i'm looking and researching about my civic.

peace out

 
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I think your question was pretty much answered. The more you're around the redline, the more wear on the engine you make. You won't know the effects until the engine's long-run. It's nice to have fun revving up the engine through gears. The point doing it is just to go faster, duh. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/IMG]

EDIT: Yes, torque. Since our cars have low HP and even less torque, they're weak when it comes to high-end power. Acceleration is fair in first gear all the way to the redline but after shifting into 2nd, you'll discover how slow the car is. You'll find out how slow it is dropping gears to go faster at say, freeway speeds where torque really matters. (Try racing a V6 Accord off the line, and then on the freeway... on the freeway, it'll annihilate you.) You can get around it though with good engine mods like the 2-piece HP race headers with high flow cat. Intakes and exhaust are almost about personal preference but those headers are pretty much the best bolt-on for our car.

And yes, they do fit if you install them properly.

 
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As most drag racers will tell you - torque is very important off the line - that is what gets you going. Something that a car like a Corvette will have in abundance. They are incredibly quick off the line even with an automatic.

As far as redline driving , I would just make sure the car is fully warmed up before really beating on it.

 
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Good Thread!

 
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thats guys to the ones that gave me a serious answer,..

 
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Its good to know that there are pretentious condescending people like you who get their petty kicks out of talking trash. The guy was asking an honest question saying he's researching. Give him a break.

-Aki

 
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As the engine revs climb, so does power (to a point). The redline is simply the maximum engine speed that the factory has rated the engine to be turned safely. The more time the engine spends at high revolutions, the greater the wear on the engine. Smaller engines (like the 1.7 in my Civic) tend to need to rev higher than larger engines, like the 5.0 in my Mustang. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]

The "purpose" of driving a car to redline is to go faster, be it top speed or to accelerate faster.

The reason automatics are good with turbochargers/superchargers is that after the shift, the automatics tend to keep the engine rpms more into the powerband than a manual. If you are some kind of super-duper powershifter, you can argue that your manual shift is better in a forced induction combination. From a purely acceleration standpoint, a purpose-built automatic transmission offers far greater consistency and reliability. For a twisties racer, the manual affords the greatest control.

Also, nitrous oxide is not a fuel additive, it is a form of forced induction.

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