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how much did it cost and what brand

 
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Some things that could be useful about HID that I've been told, so I'm not sure how accurate it all is...

1. It's not all that great in bad weather
2. Don't buy a brand because they're trying to pawn off the brand Phillips as an HID...Phillips doesn't make HID's
3. The stock reflection cones on the inside of the light are not made to accommodate the bulbs that go in - they need modification
4. Stock lights are much better in bad weather - Raybrig is one of the best...

Any thoughts?

 
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i was just wondering...my friends tl has the phattest hid's and my hiperwhites look like ish comparred to them

 
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True, they have a nice effect, especially at night when you can see the blue/purple/whatever colour they are...but for the sacrifice, I dunno - I like my safety first, then my style...you know?

 
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what do you mean by bad weather? in fog and rain, my HID's work awesome, my 6k HID is way better then 3 different sets of PIAA's I have tried.........

 
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yeah, i always hear that HID's are the superior choice in bad weather.... but that's what i hear so who knows[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG]

 
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you sure? i was on the philips site the other day, and they said they make hid

here's the link..

Philips HID

 
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Yo I've seen NetCBC's HID's and they're super bright. Definitely much better than anything including PIAA's. Also, I don't see how the "bad weather" could affect it's performance. It's definitely one of the things that I will do for my car. Hey net, you still helping me install my HID's when I get it right?

 
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i got philips HID...i got it for $385.95

 
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True HIDs are nice. A lot of companies are now bastardizing these HID kits to fit in all different types of applications, like an H4 HID kit. There is no such thing as an H4 HID bulb AFAIK. The only 2 bulbs are D2R and D2S. Also, I'm hearing that a lot of localities/states are starting to outlaw HID because it so bright that it's blinding oncoming drivers. I'd definately be careful with it. I have thought about this upgrade, but I don't think it'll be worth it. If you want a HID look, just get some PIAA Super Plasma/GTs. The low beam is 5000K land either 3800K or 4200K high beam. JMO.

 
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I can contest to HID being bad in rain. I have driven several times in rain on the freeway and the back spray that cars and trucks cause it to glare backwards. It is just like driving in heavy fog with your high beams on. The light refracts from the moisture and back into the drivers eye. Definately blinding.

Another thing to think about is the HID reflectors...on the tl, is, gs, ls, etc...are different than the reflectors we have on our cars. If you just put a HID bulb in there the beam pattern will be split and it will glare. That is the reason why they are blinding when you are on comming traffic.

They best way is to use reflectors or projectors from cars that already have HID and mod them into your housing. Or, do it the way I did it, buy projectors and replace the projector with an HID one like audi, bmw, cadillac, etc...

 
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First of all twilightx
1) true HID retrofits are not bad in inclement weather because
a)3200 lumens = 3x the amount of a 110 watt halogen going at 1200 lumens
B)given the correct kelvin scale the color rendering index of a 4500k HID kit is higher than anything marked in anyother scale 6000- 10000k because your eyes will never see ultraviolet past 5100k So backdazzle in inclement weather is only evident in 6000k and up kits, but traceless in any 5500k or lower kits.


2)you don't need to modify the deflector sheild in the stock housing with any d2s or d2r hid bulb because a stock H4 is almost 2mm longer and 5mm wider giving any hid bulb + a high beam shield ample space inside the deflector.

3)Raybrig is not the best. Raybrig makes fake HIDs and they are not part of any OEM optics making their R&D invalid with absolutely nothing to back them up. Hella which makes HIDS for audi's Mccullogh (BMW) and Bellof are the leading brands that not only sell aftermarket kits but also spend thousands on R&D optics with high end corporations outside the automotive industry.

You are right about Philips not making any kits though, but they do have components authentic for philips alone like Ultinon which is JDM.

And Taz

If you think Piaa plasma's are so good ill put in my old piaa plasma's in one headlight and My true Osram-philips kit on the other and you tell me if they look the same. No halogen is better than true HID's if you keep thinking this drive next to a BMW or Audi in any weather rain, sleet or snow and you tell me if you can even see your beam pattern through their HID's. Most likely not.
Read these for more information
Philips forum

HID faq

 
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Does anyone know if I were to get hids with my projectors if they would give off the same appearance as an s2000 or a bmw x5?

 
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you would have to get those projectors to get the same effect as a s2k or x5.

hella also makes projectors that you can buy that are HID or some cheaper ones that you can modify to make them HID. i think you have to buy them in the uk though...do not quote me on that.

the philips website, listed above, is a great one, that is where i learned everything and the faq page is another good one. with those 2 websites should answer any questions and they also have a forum on there.

 
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Hey netcbc, so what was the problem with the HIDs you had?

 
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I would definately not put HIDs in the stock housing. The reflector sections are too big, which focuses the beam too sharply to the front. The pattern sucks and the color isn't great with standard HIDs. I would definately recommend a projector retro like Exbauer if you want HIDs.

 
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Thank you, thank you *bows....*

I sold him the HID kit

 
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raybrig is stock? lol.
anyway, i have hid's and it works great and im not sure. I forgot the name of the brand. and also, hid works even better in bad weather, especially rainiy days. you can actually see the road.

 
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Hey exbaeur did you use just the stock A6 projector ellipsoids w/o the shield or cutoffs? If so is it a direct fit? Im planning on doing a similar retro except with bigger 90mm hella projectors with the housing and hella shield as one piece instead of just using the reflectors that are stock from the TYC's. Also do you have any pictures inside the housing to illustrate? Any pics of beam patern on foreground or 25-50 foot wall shots of your cutoff? Your help is greatly appreciated.

 
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Yeah - EXBuaer, any detailed info you can provide as far as what reflectors you used, and what housing you started with, would be very helpful information. I'm still running stock reflectors with my Acura HIDs, even aimed down there is too much glare. If you want to share info offline, my email address is in my profile. Thanks.

 
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0100010 the amount of glare you have with your retrofit has nothing to do with your reflectors. I used to have a stock cl bulb in with my oem acura ballast before i traded them in for osrams and modified h4's with a shield to block the parabolic high beam reflectors. You need to fabricate a shield to the bottom of your d2s bulb so that it blocks all light emanating to your high beam reflectors. Your extreme glare is actually HID high beams which on top of that is stray light that will only light up overhead shooting useless light. Take a look at the forums I posted earlier and do a search on glare and you'll find numerous ways to make a sheild with a turke baster or a touch up paint can. Its fairly easy to retro, but it does require time for trial and error. Good luck.

 
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Yeah, I tried making some shields previously, after 3 different types, I gave up. I think I'm just going to look into getting some projectors, an an extra set of stock headlights, and find a way tp retrofit some new reflectors in.

 
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soemone need to make a diy on how to retrofit hid projectors into tyc projectors -_-

 
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no probs, u can pm 2k2civicballer if you want......