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Old Jul 17, 2002
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howstuffworks is wrong about a camshaft statement

i was just reading right now about camshafts and they were explaining how an inline 4 or inline 6 will only have one cam since there is only one head. WRONG!!!! let's see, can you say type r or s2000?????

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SOHC will have one cam, DOHC will have 2. They are still sort of correct I think.

SOHC 2 valve per cylinder - the intake/exhaust cams open 1 valve each
DOHC 4 valve per cylinder - again, the intake/exhaust cams open 1 valve each

Pop quiz boys and girls, how does a SOHC 4 Valve Per Cylinder Engine work [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/IMG]



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i am not famaliar with this topic hehe.
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SOHC 4 valves per cylinder intake and exhaust open 2 valves each ? am i right ? i dunno
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our engines as well as many others have 2 intake valves and 2 exhaust valves...times 4 cylinders is 16 vales and 4 per cylinder [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]
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It uses a rocker arm to use one cam to lift 2 valves. This creates a loss of power through friction (heat)

The old, dare I say inefficient, pushrod design uses a single camshaft with pushrods and rockers to operate 1 valve per head in the V configuration engines.

All in all, 1 cam per valve is the best design and 4 valved per cylinder is the best design. Thus DOHC is the best desogn. SOHC with 4 Valves per cylinder is second best. SOHC 2 Valves per cylinder is third, and 2 valves per cylinder pushrod is the least efficient.

Audi builds a 5 valve per cylinder engine, but I just don't know enough about it to comment.
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Dohc = Dual Over Head Camshaft

If you drive a 2K1 or 2K2 unless it's the Si or SiR has SOHC with rockers.

Why does your valve cover say DOHC? Mine says VTEC
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try the camry V6....four cams!!
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DOHC in V config = 2 heads = Dual over head cams per head = 4 cams

I'm not trying to BS you guys

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[hr]Originally posted by: EvilDave666
it says dohc on my spark plug cover...i have two cams? i dont think so[hr]
Then you dont drive an EM2, if you did it should either say "HONDA" or "HONDA VTEC"...the only DOHC Civics are US Si/CAN SiR's.
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[hr]Originally posted by: SlvrEX5spd
our engines as well as many others have 2 intake valves and 2 exhaust valves...times 4 cylinders is 16 vales and 4 per cylinder [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG][hr]
Except for some turbo VWs and Audis, which have 5 valves per cylinder...3 intake, 2 exhaust...or vice-versa....I'm sleepy[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/IMG]
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[hr]Originally posted by: Shawn02
try the camry V6....four cams!![hr]
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[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG] What's wrong w/ the camry statement??....just making an observation....and the V6 is quick...much quicker than my civic..
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[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG] What's wrong w/ the camry statement??....just making an observation....and the V6 is quick...much quicker than my civic..[hr]
Ya...I don't get it either...it IS a 4-cam motor...[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG]
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wait a sec, can someone explain what the 4 cam means, i'm confused?? the camry is a V6, but how does it have 4 cams....
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Any engine in a V configuration has 2 heads as opposed to an inline 'I' formation. Thus, a DOHC V engine will have 2 camshafts per head. So, that is why it has 4 camshafts.

Calling a camshaft a cam is a little confusing. A camshaft contains many cams. Generally 1 exhaust and 1 intake cam per cylinder. A 4 cylinder camshaft has 8 cams to actuate valves. A 4 valve per cylinder engine can use a SOHC with rockers, or a DOHC. 2 Valve per cylinder engines use either SOHC or Pushrods (in a V engine with one camsaft for the entire engine).
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well Jon, to be honest, i don't know the inside setup or explanation for the four cams....its my mom's car, and i just know it says "Four cam 24 and V6 3000" on the engine....i'm hopin one of the engine experts in the forum can explain it..
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