mac25

I've been interested in getting the dreaded emanage blue to work. I've found a lot of data on why most people fail and it's usually because half the information that shipped with the emanage software disc is in japan'english or out of data.


Problems:
-1:wrong cylinder count/ignition settings/MAP sensor selection with the analogue sticks
-2:not being able to use live data tracking for air fuel ratios.
-3:not being able to reduce fuel flow.
-4:OEM ECUs that "correct" the A/F ratio.

Solutions:
-1: Use 4,8,C which is listed for the RSX, which uses the same firing type (coil ignition) and MAP sensor. Listed on this updated data PDF http://aeclipseguy.tripod.com/pdf/em...coperation.pdf . The Jumper order is also listed, and the injector wiring.
-2:update to emanage blue support tool version 1.49 found on the Greddy site http://www.greddy.com/tech-support/e-manage/
-3:You can reduce the fuel but not directly. In order to reduce the fuel you will need to open a map to adjust air input, and reduce the air signal via Map sensor through the emanage. When the OEM ecu detects lower air input (because we are tricking it) it will lower the fuel input to match.



***This next step is theoretical, I have not yet tried it but I am hoping to soon.***

This one is risky because it relies on the tuner/street tuner if you are doing it yourself, to set the entire A/F ratio map. As well I'm not sure if the Emanage blue will adjust the fuel value if you are given a bad batch of gas like the OEM set up will.

-4:Run O2 simulators for the upstream and downstream sensors, then use a wide band O2 wired directly to the emanage blue to graph A/F ratios. This will plug into the yellow analogue port on the emanage. In this way the OEM ECU will never adjust the fuel because you have physically wired it to read a perfect voltage. You can buy plugs to fit this port online just google "greddy emanage blue air fuel harness". For the widband O2 sensor if you have an 01-03 civic which comes with a narrow band O2, the RSX sensor from denso works and is cheaper than the civic sensor by $20 for some reason; part number 234-9005. You could also try an aftermarket O2 which comes with a separate gauge, this way you would have two sources to confirm the A/F ratio, just watch out for O2 thread count. Here is a link to a wide band O2 conversion DIY https://www.civicforums.com/forums/1...-use-only.html

PS: If you are running boost over the detection Bar limit the stock MAP sensor can read you will need to buy a 4 Bar MAP replacement that bolts up where the OEM one goes,DO NOT BUY THE EMANAGE PRESSURE SENSOR . This is because there is only one analogue input on the emanage (the yellow port) and this is where you wire in the wide band O2.



Expansion:

1: the reason the ignition settings are usually wrong is that when the CD was written most hondas used distributor firing rather tha coil firing. The CD gives instructions to select distributor firing stating that most hondas use this. So most people just select that setting since it is an obscure number/letter not the written words "distributor firing order" . But I found an updated chart which lists the ignition type and map sensor used for the RSX, which is the same as the em2 (which is different than the distributor settings on the CD for Hondas). http://aeclipseguy.tripod.com/pdf/em...coperation.pdf

2:Next up is the fact that although in the original software you can change the air readings in order to send more fuel there was no data tracking from the Air/fuel ratio sensor to the emanage. So you would need to use an A/F meter and tune it by watching the rpm/throttle maps and manually looking at the A/F reading then plugging in info. I found out that there is an update that is on the CD but does not auto install, you can also find this on greddy's web site "emanage blue v1.49". This update allows you to select Air/fuel live data mapping.

mac25

********************* The Items bellow have not yet been tested, I have only compiled my findings so far from other DIY segments************


Section 1: Creating a USB to USB like data cable to communicate with Emanage Blue (EB)



Sooohooo, in very frustrating news it turns out that the EB can only communicate via serial style Com port.

This is a problem because those old dinosaur ports are no longer issued on many PCs or laptops; instead USB ports are used. This means that you must use a usb to serial converter, particularly a USB to TLL converter; and wire this to another Male USB end.

here is a link to a DIY https://www.livetodai.com/t/diy-usb-...data-cable/519

USB to TLL converter original image is from the original poster in the DIY above.


There are many different pin counts on the converters available. This image shows a simple 4 pin converter, but some are 12pin and so on. We are mainly interested in the RX and RT pins (which will be marked on the adapter board). These are the data pins. These two pins will be soldered to a regular USB male end/wire.

this image is also from the original poster


Here we see that when you cut open a usb wire there are four wires inside the main black wire coating. Red is V+, Black is ground. I actually don't think these two need to be soldered at all, since the emanage draws power from the vehicle. But I haven't tested that thought yet. White and Green are the ones we want to use. White and green go the the RX and RT connections on the TLL adapter. The original author mentioned that he had the wires the wrong way around at first then flipped them and it worked.... but he did not mention the exact order.



Section 2: Finding your Data wire in Device Manager for Windows



Now once you have your data wire working you will need to make sure that Windows has assigned it to COM1, 2, 3, or 4. Because the tuning software that comes with the EB needs to communicate with one of these.

In order to do this we must open the Device Manager in windows. Simply type "device manager" into the windows task/search bar. We are looking for the devices listed under "Ports (COM & LPT).




If you do not see "Ports (COM & LPT)", type "hdwwiz.exe" (hardware wizard) into the windows task bar. Press enter.

-select "install the hardware that I manually select..."
-scroll down until you see "Ports (COM & LPT)"
-click next
-select any of the options, such as "communication ports" or "printer port"

mac25

Section 3: Matching your Emanage Blue tuning software COM port to your Data Wire COM port listed in windows


Now that you can see "Ports (COM & LPT) in Device Manager, you should also see your Data Cable; listed under this section.

We are going to
-right click on the data cable
-go to properties
-port settings
-advanced
-in the bottom left corner you will see COM port number, change this to a port which is not in use and is either COM1, 2, 3 or 4.



Lets say we have the option to select COM3, now we need to make sure that the Emanage tuning software is communicating on COM3.

Open the tuning software "ProjectGSC.EXE"
-under the "Options" tab select "COM Port", then "COM3".

mac25

Bellow are the wiring charts for the Emanage Blue main harness I have colour coded Atlantis' wiring diagram to match Stinkyfied's image. To keep things simple I have only listed and colour coded the main harness wires, Stinkyfied also lists the wires for the ignition coils with images, so please check that DIY out. But this sould get you started.



Originally Authored by Atlantis, Thank you Sir! https://www.civicforums.com/forums/1...g-diagram.html


Bellow is the wiring pin out for the EM2 (this may be different than other Honda vehicles)

Connector A (31 Pins)

1-blk/wht-Primary O2 sensor heater control
2-yel/blk-Power Source
3-yel/blk-Power source
4-blk-Power ground
5-blk-Power ground
6-wht-Primary O2 sensor
7-blu-Crankshaft position
8-yel-Sensor return volt
9-red/blu-Knock sensor
10-grn/yel-Sensor ground
11-grn/wht-Sensor ground
12-blk/red-Idle air control valve
13-wht/blk-EGR Valve position
14-blk/wht-Secondary O2 sensor heater control
15-red/blk-Throttle position sensor
18-wht/grn-Vehicle speed sensor
19-grn/red-MAP Sensor The other end of this cable will go to the white emanage cable
20-yel/blu-Sensor Voltage Supply
21-yel/red-Sensor Voltage Supply
23-brn/yel-Logic ground
24-brn/yel-logic ground
25-wht/red-Secondary O2 Sensor
26-grn-Top dead center sensor
27-brn-Igniton coil 4
28-wht/blu-coil 3
29-blu/red-coil 2
30-yel/grn-coil 1

Connector B (24 Pins)
2-yel-Fuel injector 4
3-blu-Injector 3
4-red-Injector 2
5-brn-Injector 1
6-grn-Radiator fan control
7-red/blk-A/T Pressure control solenoid valve A
8-red/wht-Engine Coolent sensor
9-blu/blk-VTEC Oil pressure switch The other end of this wire will go to the yellow emanage cable
10-wht/blu-Alternator L Signal
13-wht/red-Alternator FR Signal
14-blu/red-EGR Valve
15-grn/yel-VTEC Solenoid valve
16-blk/red-A/T Pressure control solenoid valve B
17-red/yel-Intake air temp sensor
18-wht/grn-Alternator control
21-yel/blu-EVAP Canistor purge valve

Connector C (22 Pins)
1- wht/blk-A/T Pressure control solenoid valve A
2-yel/blu-Torque converter clutch solenoid
4-grn/wht-Shift solenoid B
6-blu/blk-Shift Solenoid A
7-wht/red-Mainshaft speed sensor
8-brn/wht-A/T Pressure control solenoid valve B
9-red-Position switch D3
10-wht-position switch R
11-blu-position switch 2
12-blu/wht-position switch neutral or park
14-grn-countershaft speed sensor ground
15-blu-countershaft speed sensor
18-blu/yel-position switch D3 or D
20-yel-position switch D
21-wht/grn-mainshaft speed sensor ground

Connector E (31 pins)
1-grn/yel-Immobilizer fuel pump relay
2-wht/red-Secondary O2 Sensor
3-brn/yel-Logic ground
4-pnk-Sensor ground
5-yel/blu-Sensor voltage source
6-blk/wht-Secondary O2 sensor heater control
7-red/yel-PGM-FI main relay 1
9-yel/blk-Ignition input signal
12-blu/orn-Cruise control signal
13-wht/blu-Interlock control unit
14-lt grn-Fuel tank pressure sensor
15-grn/red-Electrical load detector
16-lt grn/blk-Power steering pressure switch
18-red-A/C Clutch
20-blu/red-EVAP bypass solenoid valve
21-lt grn/red-EVAP Canister shut valve
22-wht/blk-Brake pedal position switch
23-lt blu-K line
24-yel-Multiplex control unit comm line
26-blu-Engine speed pulse
27-red/blu-Immobilizer code
29-brn-Service check signal
30-red/wht-Write enable signal
31-grn/orn-MIL or check engine light enable


I'll admit I was bored at work but hey if it helps one person, enjoy !!!


.....................

Originally Authored by Stinkyfied Thank you Sir! https://www.civicforums.com/forums/1...g-ex-vtec.html

Above is a DIY in which wires to connect from the Emanage Blue, to the EM2 wiring harness are listed. The image below shows the colours of the emanage main harness as they connect to the EM2 wiring harness.