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Scion Debuts its new RWD Concept car today!

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Scion Introduces FR-S Sports Coupe Concept
at 2011 New York Auto Show

• Rear-wheel drive concept makes world debut
• Design focus of Pure Balance
• Boxer engine utilizes Toyota’s D4-S direct and port injection system

April 20, 2011 - New York - Scion unveiled the rear-wheel drive FR-S Concept sports coupe to-day at the 2011 New York International Auto Show. The concept, which sets out to stimulate the souls of true driving enthusiasts, will be at the Scion display through May 1. The FR-S Concept will inspire a new model coming to the Scion brand next year.
The FR-S Concept, which stands for Front-engine, Rear-wheel drive, Sport; is Scion’s defini¬tion of an authentic rear-wheel-drive sports car with compelling style, exceptionally balanced perfor-mance and handling, flexible utility and surprising MPG.

“Scion is always experimenting with new things,” said Jack Hollis, Scion vice president. “The brand is iconic with the xB, adrenalized by the tC, and groundbreaking with the iQ. The FR-S will expand the brand into yet another new dimension that I know it is truly destined for.”

The FR-S is a true “scion,” born into a lengthy history of Toyota performance cars and motor-sports. The sports coupe is most inspired by the AE86 generation of the Corolla, better known as the Hachi-Roku, meaning “8-6” in Japanese. The front-engine, rear-wheel drive coupe was lightweight and well balanced, making it a solid choice for driving enthusiasts.
Inspired by the AE86, the FR-S is built around the core goal of achieving “pure balance,” which begins with the strategic placement of a flat 2.0-liter boxer engine in a front-engine, rear-wheel drive configuration. The engine’s compact size and shape allows the FR-S’ powertrain to be mounted lower and further back towards the rear, giving the car a lower center of gravity and a dynamically favorable front-to-rear weight ratio.

The FR-S’ naturally-aspirated engine is innovative, being the first boxer to incorporate Toyota’s D4-S injection system, which utilizes both direct and port injection, resulting in increased horsepower and torque throughout the entire powerband, without sacrificing MPG.

The flat-four can mate with either a six-speed manual or a six-speed automatic transmission. The manual offers quick and precise shifts with a short-throw, while the automatic transmission features aggressive, sporty shifts that are initiated by steering- wheel-mounted paddle shifters. Power is dis¬tributed effectively via a limited-slip differential.
The idea of “pure balance” is further realized by the FR-S’ lightweight design and short wheelbase. The combination allows the car to be quick and nimble into and out of any corner, with dynamic ma¬neuverability and confident stability.

“Akio Toyoda has mentioned that he is going to bring the fun-to-drive spirit back to Toyota,” Hollis said. “I know that the Scion FR-S Concept is one of the ways that he plans to accomplish that.”

The fierce exterior of the FR-S is a good reflection of its inner power. The intimidating proportions of the concept give it a dominant stance that bleeds performance. The profile, inspired by the Toyota 2000GT, reveals a hood-line that is remarkably sleek and low, made possible by the boxer’s architec¬ture.
The low stance continues to exaggerate the FR-S’ menacing face, which is made up of sharp lines, a wide mouth and angular headlights that include bright LED clusters.

The solid panel roofline is sleek, lightweight and rigid, slotted with an aerodynamic shape that chan¬nels air cleanly over to the top.
The front fenders protrude upward, making space for the massive monoblock Five Axis 20x8.5-inch wheels, while the muscular rear fenders are widened to house the 20x10.5-inch wheels, emphasizing the FR-S’ staggered stance and rear-wheel-drive setup.

The rear fascia sits low and wide, with extensive lower treatments that surround the dual exhaust exits and contribute to excellent aerodynamics. LEDs illuminate both the edgy taillights and the bold “SCION” logo.
The concept features four-piston-caliper front brakes that clamp down on monstrous 18-inch annular carbon ceramic matrix rotors that are fixed to the wheels in a motorcycle-fashion.

The FR-S Concept is layered in rich coats of Code Red, the appropriately named color that consists of a custom blend of candy and a developmental additive from BASF called Mearlite SSQ.

Concept Dimensions

Length – 168.2
Width – 71.5
Height – 47.4
Front Track – 61.8
Rear Track – 59.9
Wheelbase – 101.2

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http://sciondimension.com/
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interested to see how expensive the fr-s is
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Is this gonna be based on Toyota's FT86? I remember Toyota's statement on their version said it was gonna reincarnate the eight six.
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Re: Scion Debuts its new RWD Concept car today!

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Is this gonna be based on Toyota's FT86? I remember Toyota's statement on their version said it was gonna reincarnate the eight six.
The FR-S is a true “scion,” born into a lengthy history of Toyota performance cars and motor-sports. The sports coupe is most inspired by the AE86 generation of the Corolla, better known as the Hachi-Roku, meaning “8-6” in Japanese.
AE86 inspired balancing, not styling lol

But if this baby is under 30 G's i'll prolly aim to get one
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Yeah looks like they took the Toyota FT-86 and just repackaged with Scion badges. It's about time it hit production. The FT-86 and its Subaru counterpart have been in the pipeline forever.
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honda needs to make something to retaliate
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Re: Scion Debuts its new RWD Concept car today!

Originally Posted by sl33pyriceboi
honda needs to make something to retaliate
And what would that be?
More ugly Civics ?

Concept looks pretty nice though, Kenny you should buy! ....whenever it'll come out
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^ bring back the s2k
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Re: Scion Debuts its new RWD Concept car today!

Originally Posted by Kennykid2002
AE86 inspired balancing, not styling lol

But if this baby is under 30 G's i'll prolly aim to get one
im just sayin its eerily similar to the FT. and i know its been mentioned that its rebadged lol
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Originally Posted by Muirsy
^ bring back the s2k
or something like the s2000
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Ahh, I completely forgot about the S2K , I miss that car
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Lets face it, Honda is going downhill, unless they start producing some really nice, powerful FR cars, with less technology, no one will buy the new cars. (Except maybe eco freak grannies who live in Berkeley, CA)

And yes, it is the FT86. If you go to www.sciondimension.com and watch their event video, they tell you everything.
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Re: Scion Debuts its new RWD Concept car today!

yeah, the whole boxer engine is a dead giveaway for subarus.
Should honda go to porsche to another boxer?
And yeah, s2k rebadged S2013 (sylvia, anyone?) - need to say i will miss the s2k too...
The more i look at the CRZ, the more i like it, though. much more personality than the new vic, and it have a k-swap already
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The more i look at the CRZ, the more i like it, though. much more personality than the new vic, and it have a k-swap already
I love the exterior of the CRZ, but once I sat in it, I got the "Eww, i feel like im in a space ship, not a car" feeling
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not my thing to mod the interior, but could be done
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Re: Scion Debuts its new RWD Concept car today!

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I love the exterior of the CRZ, but once I sat in it, I got the "Eww, i feel like im in a space ship, not a car" feeling
The 9th gen civic interior is even worse.

I also miss the s2k, but I don't see it coming back.
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crz is one of the worst cars honda put out, almost as bad as the crosstour lol. that scion is nice they should just make the concept the actual car.
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Yeah Kenny. I had that car in GT5. Just went by a different name. I may be going to the NY auto show this weekend, so I'll see if I can snap some photos. U jelly?
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Re: Scion Debuts its new RWD Concept car today!

Why y'all hating on the CRZ?
I like it...just not the stupid *** blindspot thingy ... It's useless
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Re: Scion Debuts its new RWD Concept car today!

The problem was it didn't live up to expectations. Not the expectations of being a CRX successor, but for the numbers it delivered. It was an embarrassment. I'm sure there's more, but it's only saving grace was that it had decent handling I guess. I'd rather drive a 5 Speed Honda Insight. That thing could get phenomenal gas mileage.
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Re: Scion Debuts its new RWD Concept car today!

Originally Posted by iSharix
Why y'all hating on the CRZ?
I like it...just not the stupid *** blindspot thingy ... It's useless
I like it too, I'd definitely consider buying one, but it's to small to be my main vehicle. I would definitely consider a late model insight as that's probably my favourite Honda hybrid.
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Originally Posted by MelJ
The problem was it didn't live up to expectations. Not the expectations of being a CRX successor, but for the numbers it delivered.
That's why i said K-swap have been done

It seems it lacks a stiffer suspension too, so ST it is

Seems that removing the batteries it will not be far from a CRX, actually, weight wise
If it can be a light chassis, suspension quirks cleared, maaaybe?
I also need to dig more on the new civic - production models tend to change a lot from the protos. Maybe there is some hope? The 8th gen had better trans (? - live longer?) and better suspension behaviour than 7th gen (test mule for new strut type production...)
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Re: Scion Debuts its new RWD Concept car today!

For anyone who's interested or hasn't seen it here's the link to the CRZ that Honda should have made. The KRZ lol.
http://www.hondatuningmagazine.com/f...crz/index.html
Looks OEM and could be if Honda would pull there heads out of their butt when it comes to sporty cars.

Honda definitely needs to bring back the S2k or some reincarnation of the NSX.
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yeah, posted that some time ago thanks anyway
S2k are still easy, NSX are as handful to drive as the MR2's or any other mid-ship cars so many end selling or wrecking their cars

Saw a unfortunate NSX in the track getting passed by a new sentra cos the driver was all "waaah! my tail is going oooouuuuttttt!". pitiful.

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Re: Scion Debuts its new RWD Concept car today!

haha yeah I figured that might be a repost, but oh well.

Yeah you can still find s2000s pretty easy, but it's still too bad they're out of production

ha yeah that would be a handful
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not only is the crz a two seater with less power than a regular gas powered civic, it also gets worse gas mileage. its the worst hybrid ever made lol. doesnt do anything right.

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The problem was it didn't live up to expectations. Not the expectations of being a CRX successor, but for the numbers it delivered. It was an embarrassment. I'm sure there's more, but it's only saving grace was that it had decent handling I guess. I'd rather drive a 5 Speed Honda Insight. That thing could get phenomenal gas mileage.
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Re: Scion Debuts its new RWD Concept car today!

Originally Posted by MelJ
Yeah Kenny. I had that car in GT5. Just went by a different name. I may be going to the NY auto show this weekend, so I'll see if I can snap some photos. U jelly?
Not really...going Saturday
Also, this:
http://www.autoevolution.com/news/ny...galleryWrapper

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not only is the crz a two seater with less power than a regular gas powered civic, it also gets worse gas mileage. its the worst hybrid ever made lol. doesnt do anything right.
Couldn't find the video review, but I remember they hated it:
http://www.topgear.com/uk/honda/cr-z/verdict

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Re: Scion Debuts its new RWD Concept car today!

I don't think Toyota will drop the FR-S ans the FT86 at the same time, and since the FT86 has been in the works for so long, they should really get on that.

As for as Honda's response, I agree with the other posts and REALLY want them to bring the s2k back and I hope they keep it simple.
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I don't think Toyota will drop the FR-S ans the FT86 at the same time, and since the FT86 has been in the works for so long, they should really get on that.

As for as Honda's response, I agree with the other posts and REALLY want them to bring the s2k back and I hope they keep it simple.
If u havent watched the event video...
The FT86 IS the FR-S lol
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looks better in person! just got back. would easily consider dropping 25k on this
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