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Im finaly gunna be able to sell/trade in my 03 civic. Im looking at the 2005 Evo8 MR or a 2004-2005 WRX STi. I dont know too much about them but they are just my last to picks, depending on insurance and all.. Just wanted to see what you all thought. And also I have been hearing that the STi breaks/roters have to be replaced every 30-40k miles, this ture? I know there are a few people that still talk on this site that own evo's and sti's so I would love the help! Thx alot

 
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from what i understand, the sti gets a little more oomph from the engine while the evo makes up for it with slightly better handling.

 
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Get the sti, but I would still reccomend doing some research, you should always know a little bit about why your buying a car. I am kinda curious as to why these are your last 2 picks considering you don't know a lot about them....

 
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for the best information and details i would check on there forums www.nasioc.com for sti and the evo one, i dont know it off hand. Both are good cars but both have pros and cons, in my experience people complain about evo's interior with rattling and i know a few that ended up with the new sti's. but my opinion is flawed since i do like subaru better.

 
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Well I ment like how well they last wise.. I know alot about them.. I just been hearin stuff about there breaks and trans, so just try 2 see if its ture.. And I was looking at sk2's, and G35's but Im looking for a turbo car, and I dont wanna buy a sk2 or w/e and then 6months down the road want to spend $5,000 to turbo it.. And last I love them 2 cars AWD > everything.. Just tryin to find out whats better in the long run.. I know the STi does 13.2 ish stock on the 1/4 anyone know what the 05 evo8 mr does?

 
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If you're looking for more of a luxurious ride while going fast, get the STi. But if you just like straight performance and don't care about a somewhat more luxurious ride then hit up the EVO. Both cars are great. I remember when the EVO and saw it hit a high 12. I thought it had some mods, but the only thing it had was a cat-back with 3inch piping.

As for my personal taste, I do not like how the new STi's look, but love how the EVOs look. Just my $0.02.

 
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Yeah same here... Im not really looking for luxurious just something fast and easy to mod, and from what I have herd the evo is wayyy easyer to do stuff to so... Now anyone know witch would be better, just the evo8 with the 5speed or would the evo8 mr be better cuz the 5 speed? thx

 
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EVO

 
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i personally like the evo's better

 
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Oh if you can afford the MR, then get the MR. The 6speed gear box has close differentials and allows you to stay in the optimal powerband a lot better.

Furthermore, here are some numbers (stock) I found from the new MR vs. the new STi.

EVO MR
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HP: 286 @ 6500
0-60: 4.7 sec
0-100: 12.7 sec
1/4 time: 13.5 sec @ 105.9 mph

WRX STi
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HP: 300 @ 6000
0-60: 5.1 sec
0-100: 13.8 sec
1/4 time: 13.6 sec @ 99.6 mph

Braking is slightly better for the MR. So in conclusion, the EVO is slightly better from a DIG. The EVO is also definately more aggressive in the way it feels and drives. Don't get me wrong, the STi is no slouch.

Which one responds to mods better will be what you'll want to worry about the most.

LINK: http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....&page_number=2

 
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They're very similar cars, tough call... there's no right answer but i find subaru's quality superior.

 
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i personally like the evo but you can't go wrong with either one.

 
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yea.. well i was just on an evo thred and found a post of them talkin about the 5speed vs the 6speed. and they said the 5speed is for people looking so do auto x, and drag/street race, and the 6speed is just for more of a DD, also they said the 6speed trany is not as strong as the 5speed and the 4-6 gears break easy, especialy the 4th.. so ive kinda narowed down to the 04 or 05 evo8 gsr model, if the insurance is still in a good range.

 
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msn had an article the other day with the top 10 highest cars to insure and the evo was #1 on the list hahah, and the sti was like... between 5 and 10 or something like that. just to let you know

 
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What kind of cars were on the list? Just wondering because I heard a lot of Honda's and Toyota Camrey's are on the list because they get stolen or jacked quite often.

If it only considers cars in the 30k-40k price range, then I wouldn't doubt it was on the top10.

 
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For the best answers to your questions, you should be reading the Evo and STi forums. evolutionm.net is one of the popular Evo sites.

I never rode in or drove either, so I have very little useful opinion. I've driven beside them, and I know that evo sounds great! Thats about it.. if sound matters, I like the evo sounds better.

Good luck with your new purchase!

BTW: The numbers for 1/4 mile times you read on the net are almost always bullshit. Those numbers might be possible with a real professional driver, perfect conditions and the perfect track but don't come to most normal people. So just don't put too much faith in what you read online for stock 1/4 mile times.

The low times come from laying the car against the rev limiter, and getting off the line as fast as you can without blowing away the tires. It's very hard on the car, and few people are willing to do it to thier daily drivers just to drop a little time at the track.

I have seen lots of Evo's, SRT4's and STi's at our local drag strips running shitty times. High 14's and low 15's. They aren't being launched very hard, but who wants to dump the clutch at 6500RPM unless you have the big money to fix expensive parts when they break.

 
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R&T or Road and Track Magazine is a pretty established company. They are no Car and Driver, but they are no slouches and are pretty reputable. That being said those numbers are probably the best numbers they can come up with on both cars with professional drivers at the wheel with the right weather conditions (not like 100F temperatures we have in Texas).

The people you see at the track are your average consumers and most likely are not any type of professional driver. Another thing about the STi and Evo is that they have to be launched at higher RPM or else they will bog on the line. SO if those kids at your local track are launching at 3500, then this will directly result in their poor times. Launching your car on a drag strip is always bad for you car, but most STi drivers and Evo drivers that want to run a serious time on the strip always upgrade their clutch and flywheel to minimize the damage they cause from those high rev launches.

You lauching your civic at 3000RPM or whatever RPM is probably doing more damage than a evo or sti launching at those higher RPM's because your civic is not made for it and has an economy class clutch, flywheel and tranny. However, STi's and Evos come standard with a much tougher clutch, flywheel and tranny so they can take more abuse. These cars are made for rally races and are built tough while the civic is made for daily driving and built mushy.

 
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Sti!!!!!

 
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I'd go with the EVO, thats just me. how is it that you're able to afford it?. you must have money cause those cars are in the 35 thousand dollar range. and yeah, you keep talking about insurance but like someone said earlier before . those 2 cars aren't the best to have when it comes to keeping insurance rates low. they're high as hell!. I REALLY hope everything works out for you and you end up very happy with no regrets.

 
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well for that one kid the only honda in the top10 is the s2000 and its was #7 i sawl the thing.. and the 1/4 times are right, i found some videos on a sti forum an this one guy had a 06 mr and just put 2,000 miles on it so e went 2 the track for his first time and he ran a 13.4 "frist time" and all u need to get in te mid 12's is a turbo back exhaust and air intake with the stage2 cobb chip, all together spend around $1,500.. and im gettin the $ from a lone... and im not spendin $35,000 "johnold" im looking for a used 04,05, and u can pick them up with around 20,000miles for around $22,000 evo or sti.. just gotta take ur time and look for a good buy

 
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Go Evo.

Even though the STi has 300hp, and the Evo only has 286, the evo runs a quicker 0-60 because it takes only 2 shifts, while the STi takes 3 shifts. 1/4th miles times are very close, but the STi has a slight edge, maybe like .1 or .2 tenths of a second. The STi first gear is useless, as it goes by soooo quick, they should have gear it better for the 1 - 2 shift and 0-60. It's a well known fact the Evo takes to mods much, much, much better than the STi and it will be cheaper to mod the evo as well. It's also a know fact the evo handles out the box better, period. Now, you can mod the STi suspension to get it to where the evo is, but than the evo just mods more and your pretty much back to square one. The STi does have a better interior and creature comfort, but that's a choice up to you... personally, I have no problem with the evo interior, as I didn't buy the car to 'relax' in, I bought it for the peformance. The recaros on the evo are a much better fit, feel and overall comfort compare to the STi. The momo steering wheel feels better than the STi.

Either way it goes, it's your choice... but if you want a soft, daily driver with creature comfort and not looking to make big power, get the STi. If you want something a bit more raw, makes crazy power for cheap and feels more better on the road as a street legal rally bred car, get the evo.

 
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about the insurance thingy, since acura is technically honda, acura RSX was on the list too.

 
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yea...... well idk what im gunna do.. right now im proably just gunna save some $ and keep lookin, cuz right now there is NO 05 evo mrs and no 04 or 05 sti in my area.

 
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imho u will enjoy drivin the sti on a day to day basis, so thats the one i's choose. Plus im not a fan of mitsubishi's craftsmanship. :/