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Yes I would have to throw in the 1.8T by VW.

 
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the toyota pikes peak tacoma has like 1400 hp from a four banger

 
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if we're talking here s2000 for sure but how bout the integra R in japan right now with the same k20 engine 220-225 i think

 
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i really like the s2000 but don't u think turbo engines are better for performance modding? a intake exhaust and get u 20 hps easy..upgrade 16G turbo with a FMIC that babay coudl fly...nothin against the s2000 but i just like turbo engines more..just my $0.02

 
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This got to be the best 4 banger before any turbo imports roaming the streets....did i meantionits twinturbo

 
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its from the movie the WRATH..................INTERCEPTOR was customly produce

 
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i meant wraith [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]


200 hp per liter
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i am going to have to go with most people and say the s2000, especially if we are talking about all motor.

 
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booohahaha (spelling??) An S2000 can take a turbo just as well as a car that comes with it out of factory. They do not build up the internals of turbo engines like you might think. Honda's N/A engines are built better/stronger internally than mitsu's turbo engines, or VW's turbo engines. there is a turbo upgrade for the S2000 made by speedcraft.... it includes a gasket to drop the compression. The S2000 can run 8-10psi safely with no more wear and tear than your VW's 1.8T. Or other such 4 cylinder with forced air induction for that matter. But I'll bet your VW 1.8 doesnt run high 11's with it's turbo.... does it. (S2000 does)

 
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Yeah S2000 but the 1.8T is a not even in the same price bracket as the S2000 with a turbo, is it?

 
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what about lotus? --- the ENGINE aint that cars strength -- it weighs well under 2000 pound.. thats where most of it speed comes from
s2000 --- i heard that they cannot handle turbo/superchargers b/c of the compression ratios becomming very high with them.

mine would be the wrx sti or the EVO 6 (wrc of course)


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you have to take into account there are n/a and forced induction....then think about the different block configurations there are, inline, boxer, and the rare v bank 4 cylinders (out of production)

honda makes the best normally aspirated inline 4s in the business...bar none...power, weight, smoothness & reliability...other mfgrs have to turbo or have large displacement to outdo a n/a honda

for forced induction inline 4 cylinders...that's a tough call...you can easily get a crvtec with a t04 turbo to get 400whp...of course the engine is also modified with lower compression pistons, etc to increase boost...but this engine is a frankestein and not production...i'd probably vote for the 2g dsm t28 turbo...good power and decent reliability

best n/a boxer 4...good old porsche inline 4 from the 944...great engine...shitty reliability

best fi boxer...subaru wrx sti (jdm)

 
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i get where u are comin from jaje but teh evo is much lighter than the 2g's and the 2g and evo ahve the same engine ....
my old ride was much quicker than the 2g...

 
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Lotus gets my vote, although an F1 would probably smoke the **** out of it. ..

R.S.

 
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I have to say the VW GTI VR6 by far......180hp with tons of torque on a light car at such a cheap price........easy 14's

 
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To me the S2000 because it's in the U.S but if we could have the mitsubishi lancer evolution VII in the U.S then i would say the lancer.

 
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Snowman, I didnt know there was a price limit here. And I was simply answering his statement that the S2000 can't be S/C'd or Turbo'd easily. The S2000 can take a 6psi S/C just fine, and can take the turbo with 8-10psi just fine. Remember, the turbo kit comes with a gasket to drop the compression. I think that the best 4 cylinder should be looked at with 2 different brackets. N/A and F/I. N/A... S2000 of course.

 
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u know what guys...i just notice nobody said anythign bout domestic cars..except for that old school custom dodge...domestics are hardly il 4's they all atl east v6 but it can't beat a il4 sad....

 
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"I have to say the VW GTI VR6 by far......180hp with tons of torque on a light car at such a cheap price........easy 14's "

That's a V6 dude.

 
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ok i know i started this thread...and hould have made it a little more detailed
s2000man:


<< 2 different brackets. N/A and F/I. N/A... >>


i know what you mean but what i am tryin to ask is which in line 4 engine do u think is the best with out any mods...sorry about the confusion...but the EvoVII still gets my vote

 
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<< "I have to say the VW GTI VR6 by far......180hp with tons of torque on a light car at such a cheap price........easy 14's "

That's a V6 dude. >>


I think he's talking about the 1.8T (180hp), but it's not very light.[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG]

 
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SVT Focus 2.0 liter.

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I agree that the S2000 has an outstanding engine, albeit with a more limited availability.

 
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<< That's a V6 dude. >>



Ha. That's funny. Amazing how someone can be soooo into this engine and think its the best 4 cylinder out there, and say it's their pick for 4 cylinder engine. (how much do you really KNOW about this "great" engine you are picking when you dont even know how many cylinders it has???)


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i guess he mean that the GTI is so great in our class..it can't be compared the other v6 turbo's so they need to compare it with us il4's..u know just to make themselves sleep better at night...but actually us il 4's can smoke them...in reverse...

 
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<< I have to say the VW GTI VR6 by far......180hp with tons of torque on a light car at such a cheap price........easy 14's >>



the new 1.8Ts are 180 hp. the VR6 is a V6 and its not 180hp. in fact, its less. 174 hp. and its not a light car. its pretty heavy. if I remember right, 2800lb+ easy 14 my butt. heh. low 15s is possible though.

I'm pretty impressed with the output from the new 1.8T, but I wouldn't pick it as the best. I duno why you guys are picking it as the best.

in fact, I wouldn't even really consider turbo engines.

and why are you guys comparing cars? heh. this is about engine. the question was pretty specific... best engine, not what comes along with it. (granted thats obviously important, but the topic was pretty specific I think.) if you add in other factors, it mighta s well be like best car or best 4 cylinder car or whatever.

in anycase, I can only think of the F20C in the S2000... but I'm sure there's a handful of other high output NA 4 cylinders (I just dont know enough to know them.)... 120hp per liter is pretty wack.

 
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Sorry S2000, it's all good. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/IMG]

 
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oK....oK......

How about the Toyota Camry?
Smooth, quiet, "relatively torquey," and darn near bulletproof
reliability.

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<< Lotus gets my vote, although an F1 would probably smoke the **** out of it. ..R.S. >>



have you ever driven a lotus with the rover 1.8?...it's terrible...it has a small powerband and the torque curve isn't very flat...in fact it's soo poorly designed that the US won't let lotus import it with that engine b/c of terrible emissions...plus they develop cylinder ring leakage with little abuse and start smoking...theres a link below to a site about the lotus elise talking about how bad they are too...read up

you can get a lotus elise with the itr b18c5 that is race prepped to 200hp...0-60 in 4.3 seconds...go to the link

Sun Motor Sports Lotus Elise with ITR Engine

 
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I'd have to go with the s2000. a 9000 redline. I love it.

 
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