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Old May 18, 2006
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ok someone explain this to me. from what i understand, if i am running 15 inch tires, with 65 series thats stock, the spedo is fine. so IF i got 15 inch rims with 50 series tires, then my spedo will be off, AND my rpms in each gear at a certain speed will be off too...so does that mean i just made my gears shorter in a way? so my car will get faster times then with normal tires? just wondering. thanx!
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no...only thing is number of revolutions of the tire....you're making the circumference shorter, the rpms are the crank rpms, not the tire rpms. and yes the speedo will be off, it's not noticable as the speedo is always off anyways. get a gps and you'll get accurate readings of speed.

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yeah rpms will always read correctly as long as the sensor on the engine is right. The mph is gauged off wheel rpm and thus if you change the circumference it displays an inaccurate number.
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yeah rpms will always read correctly as long as the sensor on the engine is right. The mph is gauged off wheel rpm and thus if you change the circumference it displays an inaccurate number.
mph is actually gauged off speed of transmission i thought.....
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i know its off the tranny on older cars, thats the only thing im familiar with.

the difference in diameter screws everything up. you speedo, and also shift points, if its an auto. i learn this in my truck the hard way
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output shaft of transmission rpm = wheel rpm.
I was just calling it at the wheels cause its easier to visualize how a difference there makes a difference in the reading.
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i have a manual. the big question is, will my rpms be different at different speeds? i think so. so does that mean i effectively can change how long/short a gear is?
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Kinda if you want to look at it like that. But you need a larger change than what you mention in the first post to really see a difference.
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yea well, i WAS gonna get like 215/40/15s but i got told it would look stupid, and i decided to do the 50s instead. i mean its a difference alright.
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try the 45s . thats what i have
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Originally Posted by dp_yz713
try the 45s . thats what i have
pics... and your dropped on what???? what size tires and wheels??? it makes all the difference...
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yah i know it makes a difference, i was on goldlines, 1.75, with 17s and it had no gap. now i have no drop with the same tires on 17s. according to what i read about tire diamteters it decreases by .5". like 50 to 45 is a .5"
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yea well my wheels will be 15s. i need the 50s at least.
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yah i hear ya. i guess i typed it wrong also. i meant why not 45s. just since it was in the middle of what you were lookin at and kind of needed
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50 is still gonns be to much of a wheel gap( i mean all around not just from the bottom of fender to the top of wheel) (this space) <<sides of fender

195/60 or 205/60r15 offer the best meat, width, and wheel well gaping possible...between 1&1/2 and 2 fingers....
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ok im riding stocks 185/65/15s. i have a 2 finger gap all around. and i know that the 65 in that means 65 percent of the 185. which is 120.25 width in MM.
if i get 215/50/15 which is 107.5 so the 50 series will be fine. its like 1cm difference. so 1 finger gap maybe. ill be fine.
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Originally Posted by MajinB
ok someone explain this to me. from what i understand, if i am running 15 inch tires, with 65 series thats stock, the spedo is fine. so IF i got 15 inch rims with 50 series tires, then my spedo will be off, AND my rpms in each gear at a certain speed will be off too...so does that mean i just made my gears shorter in a way? so my car will get faster times then with normal tires? just wondering. thanx!

short answer, YES. what you've done is essentially shortend the final gear ratio. its a common pratice among autocrossers and open track drivers. Just be aware that you are sacraficeing a bit of your top speed for better acceleration.
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