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Here's the deal I'm so so so confused I can't decide what springs or exactly what height. Now I do you know it will be either a 1.5 or a 2.0 drop. Now here's my dilema. I have some 18's on the way and I plan to get an OEM spoiler kit. I really want to go 2 inches but I'm not sure here's why.

1. My car is my summer ride as well as my winter ride. Thought it will be badass to drive low in the summer I don't want to get caught in snow because my car is to low.

2. I don't want to have my car to low where I can't get up certain driveways or have to take them at an angle.

3. My garage is on a hill so I fear that if I go to low I will scape my exhaust or OEM spoiler kit when I get them.

4. I feel that if I'm to low that I would be kind of limited to what exhaust I can buy because my fear of scraping or losing the exhaust.

5. If I go with a 1.5 I will have a smoother ride.

6.If I go with a 2 inch drop I will have a better overall looking ride and will control better. But the ride will be a little rougher.

Now here's how I see it. When I put on the 18's it will raise the car right. Now when I install a set of 2" springs it will lower it back to normal maybe a little below. Now with a little bit below stock I should not come across any problems when I get the OEM spoiler kit this summer. Let me know if I'm right or not. Help me out guys I plan to get the springs very soon.

Here's a pic of my driveway from what you can see. You go up a little bit, than it goes flat because of the side walk than it goes up again. Now here's my fear. When I get the front lip about the time my front tire is about to hit the second hill it will scrape. If not before the rear tire hits the second hill my exhaust will.

 
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Get Eibach Coilovers....u can move up and down during the summer and winter

 
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<< Get Eibach Coilovers....u can move up and down during the summer and winter >>



Yeah but I would need a camber kit with coilovers and I really don't want to get into that. Also all that adjusting is not going to flow with me. How do you know how low you are with coilovers. If I go with just springs the only thing I would need to upgrade are the shocks and I wouldn't need those right away.

 
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I had the same dilemma. I decide to go with a 1.5" drop. that way there is no need for camber kit, nor new struts. And I still think it looks bad a$$. I really like the Xenon show car. I believe it has 18" Focals with a 1.5" drop. Also, why would you want to worry about scraping all the time. Doesn't seem worth it to me.

 
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you'll still need new struts even if u lower it 1.6 inches. It'll be ok for a while, but eventually they will blow, and thats the way it is. I would lower, but magnaflow catback sits way too low for me to lower it more, plus struts cost an arm and a leg [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-frown.gif[/IMG]

 
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"Also, why would you want to worry about scraping all the time. Doesn't seem worth it to me."

Oh believe me I don't. I want to drive my ride and enjoy it. Not have to pay attention to every little thing on the road. I will already have to do some of that with the 18's on but its worth it. Now here's the thing I want to lower the car to get rid of the wheel well gap not just to lower it. Do you have picks of the Xenon show car? 2" would be nice but I would be just as happy with a 1.5. What companies sell good 1.5 lowering springs? Like I said I want to get an exhaust and I don't want to only be able to choose from 2 because my car is to low.

 
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I have Ground Control Coilovers on my car & its been lowered about 2". I have never scraped my exhaust & it didn't really need any camber correction. I got the camber kit anyways but the shop told me that after the 2" drop that the car was still within Honda Specifications for camber.

 
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your driveway is nothing compare to mines...i have a 2.5 inch drop but i do scratch tho but hey looks better oh well...hahaha

 
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Its lowered of course its gotta give, so why not just get Eibach Prokit or Sportlines, whichever lowers the least and enjoy. You're more into the show aspect rather the handling as 18's are not optimum to go fast. A little drop with 18's and 40 profile tires should be fine. At least i hope so[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG]Whatever i dont care

 
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I guess I'll have to look at the members ride and compare. I tried to look at springs in the parts department and each site has different drops in inches with the same damn springs. I can't seem to get a definite answer of how low each spring drop you ride. Also so far I can't find a spring that is 1.5. Its always 1.3 or 1.8.

 
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I talked to the dealer that I'm buying my car from. The one that I want happens to have splash guards on it. He said that the splash guards are at least 6" off the ground, and that I can lower it 2" and still clear the 3.5" speed bumps at my HS. I think those are the highest legal limit for speed bumps, so I should be alright almost anywhere I go. The splash guards are actually a good thing, IMO just because of the simple fact that you can guage your drop from those. If you scrape your splash guards, then there is a good chance that you will scrape other parts of your car.

 
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Matrix
The GoldLine springs lower your car 1.5 inches. They are made identical to Eibach and have a lifetime warranty. They are really good quality, and I would highly recommend them. From what I have heard they match up nicely with the stock struts. This is what I was told by someone who has them on his 2k1 civic. As far as the Xenon car, I don't know the website, but let me know if you have more ?'s on the Goldline.

Just my opinion, but Ground Controls suck if you don't have Koni's.

 
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If you're looking for springs that will give some drop and eliminate wheel well gap, go with the Eibach Sportlines or Neuspeed Sports. It says that the sportlines are 1.3/1.3, but it is closer to 1.5/1.5. The Neuspeeds are 1.75/1.5. And those are pretty close to accurate. I have the Neuspeeds and I like them a lot. Hope that helps...

 
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I'm diggin this car. This guy has a Eibach Pro Kit with 18's and an OEM spoiler kit.

 
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My car has the Neuspeed sports (1.5 inch ) and the OEM body kit, I could easily fit 18's on it with no problems. And the ride is perfect on these springs.

 
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Ill get some better pics later on today.

 
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Cool man I'll be looking forward to the pics. Where and how much did you get your springs for? Do your springs sqeak? I hear they do. I'm looking at Neuspeed's website and it says Civic 96-00 all. Does that mean are cars? 2001. Also is there a place that place sells them cheaper than $239.95?

 
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A few "mistakes" that I saw in this thread...I don't know if anyone else has mentioned yet because I havn't read through the whole thing but here's what I see which could be potential problems:

1) You NEED a camber kit for ANY kind of drop that you do to your car. Figure it this way, what's cheaper, a camber kit or a set of new tires Plus if you have coilovers, it's not like you need to buy a new camber kit, all you have to do is ADJUST the camber...

2) Matrix: If you get 18's do you have the money to spend on tires? Tires for 18's are not cheap at all dude. If this was a daily driver, I would suggest 17's. They look great, tires sigificantly cheapter than 18's, and your car still looks differant. I think from the size of 18" wheels, it would slow you down quite a bit due to how large the wheel size is.

Does anyone else agree/disagree?

 
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<< A few "mistakes" that I saw in this thread...I don't know if anyone else has mentioned yet because I havn't read through the whole thing but here's what I see which could be potential problems:

1) You NEED a camber kit for ANY kind of drop that you do to your car. Figure it this way, what's cheaper, a camber kit or a set of new tires Plus if you have coilovers, it's not like you need to buy a new camber kit, all you have to do is ADJUST the camber...

2) Matrix: If you get 18's do you have the money to spend on tires? Tires for 18's are not cheap at all dude. If this was a daily driver, I would suggest 17's. They look great, tires sigificantly cheapter than 18's, and your car still looks differant. I think from the size of 18" wheels, it would slow you down quite a bit due to how large the wheel size is.

Does anyone else agree/disagree? >>



Im with you man

Anyway because you have a coil over it doesn't mean its required to get an camber kit. They only recommend it coz on coil over you alwasy adjust your ride height you don't want to go to a shop to adjust your camber everytime you adjust your height thats why its better to have a camber kit so you can adjust it yourself.

 
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I agree as well, I do plan on getting the camber kit soon.

 
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Yeah I'm going for show. If I cared about performance I wouldn't have bought this car. Yeah tires for 18's are expensive but I don't do a whole lot of driving. Just to give you an idea in 8 months when I got my car I only put on 3200 miles. Plus I will take the wheels off for winter. So that's not an issue. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG]

 
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Anytime you change the ride height it is a good idea to adjust the wheel chamber either by aligmnet or chamber kit. When you adjust the ride height you also want to adjust the chamber so the proper contact patch is on the road(evenly distibuted across the width of the tire) It will be bad for your expensive tires to wear uneven and whats worse is your handling characteristics could get to the point of dangerous. Also if you are planning on adjusting ride height one wheel at a time and adjusting chamber as well I recommend you get it professionally done in the 2 positions you plan on riding and note where the chamber kits give you the proper aligmnet for you will not be able to adjust the chamber properly with one wheel in the air.
hope this helps and good luck!