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Old Sep 30, 2005
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Talking Stock '05 S2K whp

I will be buying an '05 S2K within the next two months. A few days back I talked to Shawn Church at Church's Automotive Testing about what bolt-ons actually make power on the S2Ks. He mentioned several options, some of which are as follows:

Intake:
AEM CAI
AEM v2
Mugen

Header:
Toda
J's Racing

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Mugen
J's Racing

Shawn also mentioned that Honda seriously under-rated the horsepower on the '05s. He stated that he has dyno'd several stock '05s and they have averages 230whp (dynapack). Note "dynapack"; this would roughly translate to 220whp on a dynojet.

I am sure there will be some non-believers. I'll ask Shawn if I can get some dyno charts for proof.
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interesting. what does an 05 run for?
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Originally Posted by Echelon04
interesting. what does an 05 run for?
Invoice is just over $31K and MSRP is about $33K. When the S2K first came out dealerships in my area were sellin them for $37-40K!
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Honda advertises 240hp on the 05 s2k
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damn man....you are keepin the vic, right?
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correct me if im wrong, but isnt the s2k engine maxed out already? i mean bolt ons only adds a couple of hp right?
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Originally Posted by Meeklo2k2
correct me if im wrong, but isnt the s2k engine maxed out already? i mean bolt ons only adds a couple of hp right?
anything is better than the civics with D17s:
lose low torque and hp, only to gain slight high end power.
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Originally Posted by diskreet
anything is better than the civics with D17s:
lose low torque and hp, only to gain slight high end power.

Its not so bad and so dramatic. The rsx base and rsx-S have similar power when using not in VTEC plus there heavier. The civic ex is a fairly flexible nimble daily driver. You really need a V6 Honda is your looking for that low end ooomph.
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Originally Posted by Echelon04
Honda advertises 240hp on the 05 s2k
Right...and like I said in my first post they have apparently under-rated the horsepower because several stock '05s have dyno'd 230whp.
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Originally Posted by mandangalo
damn man....you are keepin the vic, right?
Yepper...wife is getting it. I have spent far too much money on it to try and sell it.
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Originally Posted by Meeklo2k2
correct me if im wrong, but isnt the s2k engine maxed out already? i mean bolt ons only adds a couple of hp right?
I didn't ask Shawn for specific gains, just which bolt-ons actually made gains. For all I know these parts could only make 1-2whp. Aside from power gains you can realize some weight savings which is always a good thing.
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Originally Posted by quick silver
Yepper...wife is getting it. I have spent far too much money on it to try and sell it.
you spent that much money on it just to give it up?

didn't you mod it for you yourself to drive?
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Originally Posted by aznboysrfr
you spent that much money on it just to give it up?

didn't you mod it for you yourself to drive?
I aint just givin it up...the wifey is getting it. I'll still drive it every once in a while, and we are going to continue to mod it, just not as much as before. Instead of puttin a turbo on it we'll put a supercharger. Of course the Civic wont see any further mods until I have the S2K mod'd pretty well.

I came to the realization a few weeks back that no matter what I do to my car it will still be a Civic. It doesn't have nearly the potential as an S2K. So, I am movin on to bigger and better things.
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Originally Posted by Echelon04
Honda advertises 240hp on the 05 s2k
correct me if i'm wrong, but that 240 isn't wheel horsepower...
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Originally Posted by xRiCeBoYx
correct me if i'm wrong, but that 240 isn't wheel horsepower...
Okay guys...

Honda claims the '05 S2K has 240 hp (in other words at the flywheel)

Shawn at Church's Automotive Testing stated that he has dyno'd several stock '05 S2Ks and they have averaged 230whp (in other words at the wheels).

So, if what Shawn is stating is correct, Honda has indeed under-rated the hp of the '05s.
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Try again... 205-210whp.

That's what your gonna get if you take your (bone stock) s2k to the dyno (non dynopack).

Look, http://www.dynoperformance.com/searc...489&safeid=489

so adding .2 liters gave them an extra 37whp???

I would like to see a o5 s2000 dyno 230whp stock, no hate, just show me if it's out there

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Originally Posted by HorrorSkopes
Try again... 205-210whp.

That's what your gonna get if you take your (bone stock) s2k to the dyno (non dynopack).

Look, http://www.dynoperformance.com/searc...489&safeid=489

so adding .2 liters gave them an extra 37whp???

I would like to see a o5 s2000 dyno 230whp stock, no hate, just show me if it's out there
I understand your skepticism. However, if Shawn says that he has seen them average 230whp (dynapack) then I believe him. He has ZERO reasons to lie. He is a HIGHLY respected guy in the tuner community.
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ur not gonna get much with boltons, ur gonna spend alot of money and not get much in return. If u wanna see gains go FI. if u don't mind losing some top speed, and want ur best bang for the buck with acceleration get some gears
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Originally Posted by kempster
ur not gonna get much with boltons, ur gonna spend alot of money and not get much in return. If u wanna see gains go FI. if u don't mind losing some top speed, and want ur best bang for the buck with acceleration get some gears
I agree with everything you are stating. With I/RH/E you might see 10-15whp. I gotta ask Shawn about that. My plan would be to go FI. My first mod would be the 4.56 gears. AEM EMS probably second. Anyways, I am gettin ahead of myself cuz I haven't even bought the car yet.
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honestly i don't even think you'd see that much, but also remember mods on this car are atleast double the price as compared to everything on the civic. hopefully within the next month i'll be getting my exhaust and man is it costing a pretty penny
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Originally Posted by kempster
honestly i don't even think you'd see that much, but also remember mods on this car are atleast double the price as compared to everything on the civic. hopefully within the next month i'll be getting my exhaust and man is it costing a pretty penny
Well, the average parts are probably double. The Full-Race turbo kit is about the same for an S2K as an RSX-S (I have a K20A2 in my Civic), so that is a wash. However, depending on what direction I go (turbo or s/c), I would be looking at buying parts from Mugen, Amuse and/or J's Racing. All of these parts are very expensive ($1500-3000 each).
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Originally Posted by kempster
honestly i don't even think you'd see that much, but also remember mods on this car are atleast double the price as compared to everything on the civic. hopefully within the next month i'll be getting my exhaust and man is it costing a pretty penny
Oh snap...I just saw that you have an '05 S2K...same one that I am lookin to buy. How do you like it? Which exhaust are you gettin?
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oh i love it. i'm either gonna get the invida or T1R Sparrow leanning towards the latter. i know single exhaust gives more gains but i just can't see the car without dual exhaust
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Originally Posted by kempster
i know single exhaust gives more gains but i just can't see the car without dual exhaust
Exactly. I don't car if you make more hp with a single exhaust. The car was built to have dual exhausts and looks uber ghey with one.

Again, I am getting ahead of myself, but I am thinking about getting:

Mugen front bumper:


Mugen rear bumper, exhaust and rear wing:


I think those pics are for an AP1..not sure if the design is different for the AP2.
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shouldn't be any different between ap1 and ap2. they have the same exterior design and the headlights/taillights are interchangeable between the two models, so it should allow interchangeability between bumpers
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Originally Posted by infinite012
shouldn't be any different between ap1 and ap2. they have the same exterior design and the headlights/taillights are interchangeable between the two models, so it should allow interchangeability between bumpers
I don't think the exterior is exactly the same between the AP1 and AP2. I believe the front fenders, rear quarter panels and rear bumper are different on the AP2.
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Its not so bad and so dramatic.
i know but with an LX auto you can understand where im coming from.
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Originally Posted by quick silver
Exactly. I don't car if you make more hp with a single exhaust. The car was built to have dual exhausts and looks uber ghey with one.

Again, I am getting ahead of myself, but I am thinking about getting:

Mugen front bumper:


Mugen rear bumper, exhaust and rear wing:


I think those pics are for an AP1..not sure if the design is different for the AP2.

if ur changing the whole bumper the parts are interchangeable, what u can't do is use the lips from the ap1's on the ap2's since the bumpers are shaped different
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Originally Posted by kempster
if ur changing the whole bumper the parts are interchangeable, what u can't do is use the lips from the ap1's on the ap2's since the bumpers are shaped different
I C. Thanks for the info.
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