Nitrous isn't cheating...opinions??
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Nitrous isn't cheating...opinions??
personally to me nitrous oxyde is not cheating in a race...like in the movie fast and the furious it doesnt matter if you win by an inch or a mile
winning is winning and spraying nitrous and smoking the other guy means that you won fair and square. its juss another type of mod like
having an exhaust or header or even a cold air intake... a mod is a mod and nitrous to me isnt considered cheating
i hate when ppl say that .......oh you won cuz you spray .....well so what spraying is fun
so to all the nitrous users keep up the spraying
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winning is winning and spraying nitrous and smoking the other guy means that you won fair and square. its juss another type of mod like
having an exhaust or header or even a cold air intake... a mod is a mod and nitrous to me isnt considered cheating
i hate when ppl say that .......oh you won cuz you spray .....well so what spraying is fun
so to all the nitrous users keep up the spraying
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Rep Power: 0 lol..this has got to be one of the dumbest posts...first of all dont quote that movie..just makes you look even dumber...and yes it is cheating...wow look at me I can press a button and go fast
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lol, "The Fast and the Furious"; quite possibly the most INCORRECT movie ever (i.e. double clutching when shifting up) but i kinda think nos is cheating, but then again, it does cost 600 for a system. i am kinda indifferent, just dont blow your engine
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Rep Power: 0 << lol..this has got to be one of the dumbest posts...first of all dont quote that movie..just makes you look even dumber...and yes it is cheating...wow look at me I can press a button and go fast >>
what kind of idiot is this guy
so you are implying that any mod would be cheating
wow look i could go faster just cuz i have cold air intake .......everything to you is cheating then isnt it???
plus thats the only thing in the movie that was tru you stupid f*ck
that quote is the only quote that made sense the rest of the movie was bullsh*t to me
this guy will probably say oh winning is not winning if you spray......what are you a stupid idiot or something cuz as long as you are the first
guy to reach the finish line no matter how ....... you are the winner
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Rep Power: 0 Lexboy dont get mad. That's his opinion. Anyways Nitrous to me isnt cheating, cause the dude had to pay for it to get it. So I buy headers and intake and exhaust he buys nos. I lose, I snooze. My fault for buying the mods I bought. That's why most people say its cheating is cause they wish they had it or could afford it. Anyways the one thing that pissed me off about Fast and the Furious was when Brian Spillner got caught he said the mexican dude was using some fancy exhaust. I dont think any Exhaust brand is that great that you would feel your going to lose the race over it. What ya think?
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Rep Power: 0 All I have to say is... it's an open option for racing, and it is a fair mod because many people use nitrous for racing. How could it be cheating when it's a performance modification? You guys sound like it's illegal to use it or whatever. If you wanna race someone without NOS, then race them. But if you're gonna be like the person who's gonna race anyone, anywhere, and they shoot nos, then don't complain. They have their car and you have yours, so stop bitchin.
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Rep Power: 0 << nah its not cheating... stealing the other guys engine before the race... now that would be cheating[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG]
>>Thank you! "Lie-cheat-steal" revolves around each other... nitrous, doesn't.
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Rep Power: 0 the only reason i posted this thread was to say that nitrous is as good a mod as any other and it pisses me off when people say that
juss because you dont have nitrous, you are cheating
juss because you dont have nitrous, you are cheating
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Rep Power: 0 lol..chill dude..I dont remember insulting your mother or anything...why so pissy? There is no skill in NOS (well maybe the skill you have to get the money to spend on it)..there is no skill in other mod's...best way to race is 2 of the exact same cars on a drag or anything on an autocross course...do those and you find out who the most skilled driver is.
Mod's on these little imports are for show and bragging rights...they really don't improve performace dramatically (turbo or super is a different story...a couple thousand of dollars different)...so mod's are not cheating...they are about being anything but stock. lol...so what im trying to say is grow up and learn that not everybody has the same views as you...accept it
Mod's on these little imports are for show and bragging rights...they really don't improve performace dramatically (turbo or super is a different story...a couple thousand of dollars different)...so mod's are not cheating...they are about being anything but stock. lol...so what im trying to say is grow up and learn that not everybody has the same views as you...accept it
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Rep Power: 0 - nitrous to me is just backup hp. the reason some may call it cheating is b/c its a guaranteed increase in speed and plus anybody can apply it to their car.
- nos should be used as the last resort, or else there's no point in modding car.
- nos should be used as the last resort, or else there's no point in modding car.
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Rep Power: 0 Nitrous is fine. If your goal is to make your ride go as fast as you can make it go, then go for it. That is my goal with my car. Why did I get a Civic? It's fun. It's fun to mod, it's fun to race and it's fun to win. Not cheating, it's called efforting.
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Rep Power: 0 << There is no skill in NOS (well maybe the skill you have to get the money to spend on it) >>
this is probably them most ignorant statement thus far. how is there skill in using a turbo or supercharger?
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Rep Power: 0 never said there was skill in turbo or super....skill and racing cars do not really fit well together...its not the same as sports or jobs, because in those activities skill is what seperates the losers and winners. In car's its how well the driver knows his car and its limits. Its more machine than man...technique is a better word to use in the case or racing cars...i dont know if ya'll get what i mean...hell i dont really care if u do..lol but its how i feel [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG] I have more respect for the guy or girl who can run a sub 4 minute mile than for some car driver who can do the 1/4 mile in 9 sec...i guess thats the way to put it
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Rep Power: 0 Good point delacampos, okay i think nitrous is fair.
I only dislike nitrous when:
A. Someone you race neglect to tell u he's juiced
B. When someone beats u with nitrous and then makes fun of ur car cuz you lost
Other than that Why not
and actually there is more skill in nitrous than almost ANY other mod, do you have to press 2 buttons for an intake??? no how about a turbo?? come on people, think! [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]
I only dislike nitrous when:
A. Someone you race neglect to tell u he's juiced
B. When someone beats u with nitrous and then makes fun of ur car cuz you lost
Other than that Why not
and actually there is more skill in nitrous than almost ANY other mod, do you have to press 2 buttons for an intake??? no how about a turbo?? come on people, think! [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]
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Rep Power: 0 Its only cheating if its against the rules. Case in point. In the NHRA Drags there was a contestant who had rigged his roll cage to hold N20. This is a pretty slick trick, thing is he was running in the naturally aspirated class. he was caught and eliminated for.. wait for it... CHEATING.
NOW THEN. If there are no preset rules, then there is no way someone can "cheat". The oldest drag racer addage is "run what you brung". The whole point of heads up drag racing is that you never know whats going to happen. The car next to you may be beat, or it could throw a rod half way down, or he could roll up in a built Ford Pinto that runs 10s. You just never know, and that half the fun.
That being said, let us look at how you get large ammounts of power through modding your car. First method is to increase displacement. therefore increasing how much air and fuel the engine can burn at once, thus increasing power. The you have Forced Induction. Again, this FORCES more air into the engine, and when added with more fuel, it again, makes more power. Now lets look at N20 ( NOT NAWWWWWWWWWWWZ you ghay ricers, NOS is a BRAND NAME). N20 contains nitrogen and... oxygen. Reason being that the nitrogen carries the oxygen in a suspension allowing it to be safly used in a automobile (this is why we dont run pure O2 injection). When you juice a car, its basically ADDING MORE AIR, and when combined with MORE FUEL, it creates MORE POWER. sound familiar? it should, because all of the afore mentioned power adders create power in basically the same way.
What does all this mean? It means the if nitrous oxide is "cheating" then increasing displacement and or adding forced induction is ALSO "cheating", and i dont know too many people that would agree with that statement. It also means that if someone compalins that N20 is "cheating" they either are a) mad because they lost or B)jealous because they know your faster.
now quit bitching and shaadap.
NOW THEN. If there are no preset rules, then there is no way someone can "cheat". The oldest drag racer addage is "run what you brung". The whole point of heads up drag racing is that you never know whats going to happen. The car next to you may be beat, or it could throw a rod half way down, or he could roll up in a built Ford Pinto that runs 10s. You just never know, and that half the fun.
That being said, let us look at how you get large ammounts of power through modding your car. First method is to increase displacement. therefore increasing how much air and fuel the engine can burn at once, thus increasing power. The you have Forced Induction. Again, this FORCES more air into the engine, and when added with more fuel, it again, makes more power. Now lets look at N20 ( NOT NAWWWWWWWWWWWZ you ghay ricers, NOS is a BRAND NAME). N20 contains nitrogen and... oxygen. Reason being that the nitrogen carries the oxygen in a suspension allowing it to be safly used in a automobile (this is why we dont run pure O2 injection). When you juice a car, its basically ADDING MORE AIR, and when combined with MORE FUEL, it creates MORE POWER. sound familiar? it should, because all of the afore mentioned power adders create power in basically the same way.
What does all this mean? It means the if nitrous oxide is "cheating" then increasing displacement and or adding forced induction is ALSO "cheating", and i dont know too many people that would agree with that statement. It also means that if someone compalins that N20 is "cheating" they either are a) mad because they lost or B)jealous because they know your faster.
now quit bitching and shaadap.
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Rep Power: 0 what Injen Sticker on my car?...*looks outside window*...dont see one....was that supposed to be an insult or something.....im giving my goddamn opinion dude...dont take it as a personal insult...
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Rep Power: 0 its not cheating but its a lame a$$ way to win..and if u think u tough cuz u won a race by spraying and the other guy didn't spray then u suck. if u are both spraying then who cares but just one person doin it is pretty weak man
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Rep Power: 0 Now lets look at N20 ( NOT NAWWWWWWWWWWWZ you ghay ricers, NOS is a BRAND NAME). N20 contains nitrogen and... oxygen.>>
NOS is n2o, Coke is soda, who cares what it's called, we get the point so dont sound like an over exuburant teacher
to me, this whole racing thing is no skill at all, and i agree with phillippe that it all people do is build the engine and press stupid buttons while disregarding the rest of the car.. perfect example are the hatchback civics
the real racing is the autocross, where u have to tweak the suspension and calculate center of gravity and turning radius and all that stuff... they don't even need nitrous and even if they use it, it would be a waste because they have to use it each lap and they'll run out by the end of the race. That's why turbo or supercharger is used on autocross.
NOS is n2o, Coke is soda, who cares what it's called, we get the point so dont sound like an over exuburant teacher
to me, this whole racing thing is no skill at all, and i agree with phillippe that it all people do is build the engine and press stupid buttons while disregarding the rest of the car.. perfect example are the hatchback civics
the real racing is the autocross, where u have to tweak the suspension and calculate center of gravity and turning radius and all that stuff... they don't even need nitrous and even if they use it, it would be a waste because they have to use it each lap and they'll run out by the end of the race. That's why turbo or supercharger is used on autocross.
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Rep Power: 0 that has to be the most moronic statement ive seen in a while. First of all, the point of this topic isnt "what mods are better for different types of racing". This is about drag racing pure and simple. If were talking about auto cross then NATURALLY ASPIRATED engine are best. No turbo lag, and no parasitic loss through a blower. Its also a good idea it have a car with REAR wheel drive. But i digress...
You think with N20 all you have to do is bolt up a bottle some AN lines and press a button? Sure, if you want your engine to last for only 3 or 4 passes. There is a LARGE ammount of tuning involved in nitrous applications (well for those who actually use it in a correct and safe manner). As a matter of fact with my AF controlers, window switches, and other assorted tuning devices, ive got as many variables to worry about in tuning as a turbo application. BTW, how is "building the engine installing N20 and pusing buttons" different from building the engine, strapping on a turbo and running at the auto-x like you so propose? But this really isnt the point now is it?
To sum it up
A) were not talking about auto cross
B) I dont care if you use it as a general term, its WRONG.
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C)
You think with N20 all you have to do is bolt up a bottle some AN lines and press a button? Sure, if you want your engine to last for only 3 or 4 passes. There is a LARGE ammount of tuning involved in nitrous applications (well for those who actually use it in a correct and safe manner). As a matter of fact with my AF controlers, window switches, and other assorted tuning devices, ive got as many variables to worry about in tuning as a turbo application. BTW, how is "building the engine installing N20 and pusing buttons" different from building the engine, strapping on a turbo and running at the auto-x like you so propose? But this really isnt the point now is it?
To sum it up
A) were not talking about auto cross
B) I dont care if you use it as a general term, its WRONG.
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C)
