S2000 facts
S2000 facts
I have read a very informative thread a while ago on this forum about what makes the S2000 so cool. I tried to look for it but the search functionality seems to be broken somehow. In case it's available on the internet, what are some of the key facts about it that I can use to look it up further in google?
I want to know all a true enthusiast should know about it since I might get a used one this summer (and trade in my 2004 vic coupe).
I want to know all a true enthusiast should know about it since I might get a used one this summer (and trade in my 2004 vic coupe).
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s2k = best all around performer for 30 grand!
Handles like a dream but its hard as hell to drive. its one of those cars that rewards you for your skill. It takes alot of revs to get power out of it
Handles like a dream but its hard as hell to drive. its one of those cars that rewards you for your skill. It takes alot of revs to get power out of it
I heard that the engine is hand-built from the beginning to the end by a single engineer in Japan. I also know it has the shortest-throw shifter in production cars worldwide as of now.
I am interested as to which parts it shares with recent Champ or F1 cars.
Revs aren't going to be a problem :-D
I am interested as to which parts it shares with recent Champ or F1 cars.
Revs aren't going to be a problem :-D
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Originally Posted by thegent
I heard that the engine is hand-built from the beginning to the end by a single engineer in Japan.
Revs aren't going to be a problem :-D
Revs aren't going to be a problem :-D
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the S2000 engine is also built by a single engineer.
the S2000 is hand assembled in japan (the majority of the car, not the entire car, is hand assembled, just like the NSX). in fact, the S2000 and NSX are assembled on the same line at the same factory.
the S2000 is hand assembled in japan (the majority of the car, not the entire car, is hand assembled, just like the NSX). in fact, the S2000 and NSX are assembled on the same line at the same factory.
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a few more fun facts.
-the S2000 gearbox is considered, by many, the best production gearbox ever. (pretty much every magazine says this too) one mag even likened the "snick snick" of the shifter to that of the bolt action made by God's own rifle.
-the engine is hand assembled, as well as ported and polished from the factory. the engine has a forged bottom end, including crank, rods, 180,000psi rod bolts, and skirtless race pistons.
-the following are engine features:
-Fiber Reinforced Metal cylinder walls
-aluminum ladder-type main bearing support, with cast-iron bearing inserts
-lightweight forged skirtless pistons
-carburized forged steel rods
-cast aluminum oil pan which bolts to both the engine and transmission (just like on race cars) to help improve rigidity
-11:1 compression (11.1:1 in the F22C)
-lightweight metal injection-molded, sintered-steel rocker arms
-low friction roller-bearing cam followers
-two-stage cam drive with silent chain and auto-tensioner
-hollow camshafts that help reduce weight as well as function as a path for oil for the drivetrain
-direct ignition system with platinum spark plugs
-the engine itself is no longer than the B16 found in earlier civics
-the S2000 is considered the or one of the safest roadsters built. honda reinforced and designed the roll bar and a-pillar using their own 55mph rollover tests, since the US has no rollover test. the S2000 not only completely protects the passengers in a roll over, it also received the maximum award in all other US tests. they also did their own rear collision tests, another test not standard in the US. in a 45mph rear collision, the damage does not go past the center of the rear wheels.
-in a rollover, the seat belts stay locked to hold passengers into the seats, and the roll bar and a-pillar will barely crush in order to protect the passenger compartment. (there was an S2000 that rolled his car at 70mph, flipped and rolled his car over a dozen times, landed upside down and walked out unharmed. in fact, the passenger compartment was never compromised.
-the S2000 is more rigid than most 4 door sedans, which is a huge feat for a convertible.
-the high x-bone frame is designed to not only protect, offer a rigid chassis, but also make passengers "feel" like they are in a race car. hence the reason some people don't like it, because they feel "cramped".
-the current skid pad record for a modified production vehicle is 1.19 g's and is held by an S2000.
-the S2000 holds 1 record at the bonneville salt flats, while the F20C engine holds 3 records.
-the S2000 engine sits completely behind the front axle, even though it is mounted longitudinally, rather than traversely like most engines.
-the S2000 gearbox is considered, by many, the best production gearbox ever. (pretty much every magazine says this too) one mag even likened the "snick snick" of the shifter to that of the bolt action made by God's own rifle.
-the engine is hand assembled, as well as ported and polished from the factory. the engine has a forged bottom end, including crank, rods, 180,000psi rod bolts, and skirtless race pistons.
-the following are engine features:
-Fiber Reinforced Metal cylinder walls
-aluminum ladder-type main bearing support, with cast-iron bearing inserts
-lightweight forged skirtless pistons
-carburized forged steel rods
-cast aluminum oil pan which bolts to both the engine and transmission (just like on race cars) to help improve rigidity
-11:1 compression (11.1:1 in the F22C)
-lightweight metal injection-molded, sintered-steel rocker arms
-low friction roller-bearing cam followers
-two-stage cam drive with silent chain and auto-tensioner
-hollow camshafts that help reduce weight as well as function as a path for oil for the drivetrain
-direct ignition system with platinum spark plugs
-the engine itself is no longer than the B16 found in earlier civics
-the S2000 is considered the or one of the safest roadsters built. honda reinforced and designed the roll bar and a-pillar using their own 55mph rollover tests, since the US has no rollover test. the S2000 not only completely protects the passengers in a roll over, it also received the maximum award in all other US tests. they also did their own rear collision tests, another test not standard in the US. in a 45mph rear collision, the damage does not go past the center of the rear wheels.
-in a rollover, the seat belts stay locked to hold passengers into the seats, and the roll bar and a-pillar will barely crush in order to protect the passenger compartment. (there was an S2000 that rolled his car at 70mph, flipped and rolled his car over a dozen times, landed upside down and walked out unharmed. in fact, the passenger compartment was never compromised.
-the S2000 is more rigid than most 4 door sedans, which is a huge feat for a convertible.
-the high x-bone frame is designed to not only protect, offer a rigid chassis, but also make passengers "feel" like they are in a race car. hence the reason some people don't like it, because they feel "cramped".
-the current skid pad record for a modified production vehicle is 1.19 g's and is held by an S2000.
-the S2000 holds 1 record at the bonneville salt flats, while the F20C engine holds 3 records.
-the S2000 engine sits completely behind the front axle, even though it is mounted longitudinally, rather than traversely like most engines.
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S2000 is such a nice car. i saw one really up close and personal at the dealership but didnt want to bother someone over it cause no way could i get one of them. anyway i really love them. i wish.
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Originally Posted by Curiouz_G
i heard s2k's are gonna be outta production soon... say it aint so...
they have been saying that since 2k1
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The only thing i dislike is the fact its a two seater. It just does not function for me but man I do like them and always have since day one. S2000man AA++ for knowing your car inside and out.
Last time I had this much fun some furniture got broken!
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If you are looking to do many mods I think the RX8 is the better choice. Especially going the turbo route; rotaries love boost. they are quite safe to turbo because of the fact there are only 3 moving parts, and the engine is so much smoother than a piston engine. not to mention 4 seats!
only downside is a rotary needs new seals alot earlier than any piston engine needs anything replaced. but you give and take with any engine design
only downside is a rotary needs new seals alot earlier than any piston engine needs anything replaced. but you give and take with any engine design
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Originally Posted by thegent
What year did they introduce the 2.2L engine? I want the 2.0L 9000-rpm one (also older is easier on my budget).
my suggestion is to get a 2002 or a 2003. they have the most updates before getting into the 2.2 liter.
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for what it's worth, the S2000 does take pretty well to turbo. people have pushed to 12-14psi on an otherwise completely stock engine.
after that, using just a head gasket to lower compression, they have gone to 27psi (not daily). the highest daily horsepower is about 450whp on a completely stock engine block.
the current record for an S2000 putting down wheel horsepower is about 879whp at 39psi i believe.
the current fastest proven S2000 in the 1/4 mile is 11.55@129 with NO launch and STREET TIRES (the stock S02's). with a launch and slicks, a 129mph trap is good for low 10's.
after that, using just a head gasket to lower compression, they have gone to 27psi (not daily). the highest daily horsepower is about 450whp on a completely stock engine block.
the current record for an S2000 putting down wheel horsepower is about 879whp at 39psi i believe.
the current fastest proven S2000 in the 1/4 mile is 11.55@129 with NO launch and STREET TIRES (the stock S02's). with a launch and slicks, a 129mph trap is good for low 10's.
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Does the F22C have a forged bottom end as well? Given it's not as rev happy as the F20 is it just as fun(i've only driving pre 04 s2ks, I heard it's a lil different from 04+)? I can wait to buy one soon
Originally Posted by diskreet
If you are looking to do many mods I think the RX8 is the better choice. Especially going the turbo route; rotaries love boost. they are quite safe to turbo because of the fact there are only 3 moving parts, and the engine is so much smoother than a piston engine. not to mention 4 seats!
only downside is a rotary needs new seals alot earlier than any piston engine needs anything replaced. but you give and take with any engine design
only downside is a rotary needs new seals alot earlier than any piston engine needs anything replaced. but you give and take with any engine design
The earlier 13B was really good at being boosted, despite the fact that it made a hell of a lot of heat and you had to overhaul anything even remotely related to cooling. The Renesis, not so much for the boost.
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Originally Posted by PlasmaGT
Do you have any more info on this?
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Originally Posted by XxJDMCivicxX
Does the F22C have a forged bottom end as well? Given it's not as rev happy as the F20 is it just as fun(i've only driving pre 04 s2ks, I heard it's a lil different from 04+)? I can wait to buy one soon 

however, the reason they lowered the redline was because of the longer stroke. the rod angle causes too great of sideloading on the cylinder walls at 9000rpm in the F22 vs the F20. also, i believe another cause for concern was maximum piston acceleration tolerances.
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And all I have to say about RX-7s is... all you have to do is look at them funny, and they break, LOL.
But, they sure are one sexy ride.

And all I have to say about RX-7s is... all you have to do is look at them funny, and they break, LOL.
But, they sure are one sexy ride.
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
if memory serves me correctly it was a spoon S2000. i dont remember what magazine ran the skidpad number. this was a while back, probably 2 or 3 years ago.




That's exactly the type of reply I was expecting