The Quality of Honda?
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The Quality of Honda?
Alrite, so before I got my 7thgen civic, I had a 5th gen vic. Well, I noticed that a bunch of parts on our cars are not made in Japan or America. (I know our cars are made in America.) For example, our headlight housing is made in Mexico. Now I have nothing against Mexicans, but if you were to choose a product made in Mexico or America, which one would you choose? And the starter, which I had to replace cuz it went bad, is made in Indonesia. With the exception of the cars made in Japan by Honda (i.e. S2k, TSX, RSX, etc.) and imported here, I'd say the quality is going down the drain.
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Originally Posted by CivicsRdBest
I haven't had any problems that weren't my doing so far... My dad hasn't had any problems either. 
I think its possible for parts produced in other countries to have an equally high quality as though made in the United States and Japan. It really has more to do with the manufacturing processes and methods rather than who is performing them. A Mexican can put things together just as well as somone in Japan as long as they use the same method. I think a larger concern of mine is that Honda is banking more on its name and history of quality more than they should be. The quality gap between manufactueres has closed over the years and Honda doesn't have much to set them apart at this point. I still think they are at the top, but they will no longer be able to rely so heaviliy on a quality advantage to bring in the customers.
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Their quality is great, but I have noticed that they also have their gas-mileage has always been one of their big things too.
Anyway, as far as quality goes, everything in the car seems about as good as the day that I bought it, except the engine, which has gone through a lot of miles.
Anyway, as far as quality goes, everything in the car seems about as good as the day that I bought it, except the engine, which has gone through a lot of miles.
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Rep Power: 0 I agree; as long as Honda's quality control is up to par there shouldn't be anything to worry about. If their manufacturing methods and processes are enforced the quality should be just as good. Most large manufacturers are ISO certified, which ensures that methods and procedures are followed to the letter. I'm positive a company such as Honda, which has a reputation for high quality, woudn't risk that hard-earned reputation so easily.
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Originally Posted by JP375
I think its possible for parts produced in other countries to have an equally high quality as though made in the United States and Japan. It really has more to do with the manufacturing processes and methods rather than who is performing them. A Mexican can put things together just as well as somone in Japan as long as they use the same method. I think a larger concern of mine is that Honda is banking more on its name and history of quality more than they should be. The quality gap between manufactueres has closed over the years and Honda doesn't have much to set them apart at this point. I still think they are at the top, but they will no longer be able to rely so heaviliy on a quality advantage to bring in the customers.
they follow the same QA and some procedure so that the quality would be 95% close.
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Originally Posted by AzNTiG3R
Alrite, so before I got my 7thgen civic, I had a 5th gen vic. Well, I noticed that a bunch of parts on our cars are not made in Japan or America. (I know our cars are made in America.) For example, our headlight housing is made in Mexico. Now I have nothing against Mexicans, but if you were to choose a product made in Mexico or America, which one would you choose? And the starter, which I had to replace cuz it went bad, is made in Indonesia. With the exception of the cars made in Japan by Honda (i.e. S2k, TSX, RSX, etc.) and imported here, I'd say the quality is going down the drain.
and even for the cars manufactured here they still MAINTAIN japanese quality control and tolerances.
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Originally Posted by AzNTiG3R
Alrite, so before I got my 7thgen civic, I had a 5th gen vic. Well, I noticed that a bunch of parts on our cars are not made in Japan or America. (I know our cars are made in America.) For example, our headlight housing is made in Mexico. Now I have nothing against Mexicans, but if you were to choose a product made in Mexico or America, which one would you choose? And the starter, which I had to replace cuz it went bad, is made in Indonesia. With the exception of the cars made in Japan by Honda (i.e. S2k, TSX, RSX, etc.) and imported here, I'd say the quality is going down the drain.
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Yeah I think they have great quality when compared to other manufacturers! That's why they have so many repeat-buyers!
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Rep Power: 336 ummm... if the quality of honda went down then nobody would want one. and it wouldn't be called honda it would be called hyundai. lol. its the straight H not the italicized. maybe your confused. i think the best year was the 95 civic. or 98 when they made si coupes that were not hatchbacks. but quality is there. always will be.
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Originally Posted by MajinB
ummm... if the quality of honda went down then nobody would want one. and it wouldn't be called honda it would be called hyundai. lol. its the straight H not the italicized. maybe your confused.
tell me about it..... something is always rattling in my car, my back hurts because of the shitty seats, and a lot more... but hey, the car is cheap, can't expect too much from it. You get wut you pay for.
you would think the quality would be better from mexico or indonesia. i mean here we make more money than we need and we have the uaw one of the strongest unions in the nation protecting half *** good enough workmanship. in other countrys where they dont have any kind of protection they can fire you for messing up one time. and typically the guys in america who would make headlights for ford are not college educated. i would be willing to bet an american highschool graduate is just as retarded as a mexican of the same age.
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Originally Posted by JP375
I think its possible for parts produced in other countries to have an equally high quality as though made in the United States and Japan. It really has more to do with the manufacturing processes and methods rather than who is performing them. A Mexican can put things together just as well as somone in Japan as long as they use the same method. I think a larger concern of mine is that Honda is banking more on its name and history of quality more than they should be. The quality gap between manufactueres has closed over the years and Honda doesn't have much to set them apart at this point. I still think they are at the top, but they will no longer be able to rely so heaviliy on a quality advantage to bring in the customers.
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
you can't base the quality of an entire manufacturer based on personal experience. honda has sold almost 1 million civics since 2001.
and even for the cars manufactured here they still MAINTAIN japanese quality control and tolerances.
and even for the cars manufactured here they still MAINTAIN japanese quality control and tolerances.
And yeah, Honda may have sold almost a million civics since 01, so what does that prove? NOTHING, esp. not the quality of them.
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tell me about it..... something is always rattling in my car, my back hurts because of the shitty seats, and a lot more... but hey, the car is cheap, can't expect too much from it. You get wut you pay for.
The thing is, it used to be that with a Civic you felt like you got a lot more than you paid for meaning a much higher quality car. That, the gas mileage, the reliability and long life of Civics is how they built such a huge following. I couldn't agree more about the comfort of the seats, plus on my cars the drivers seat rocks back and forth (I know there is a TSB - the freakin dealers here won't fix it
) the stereo quits in hot weather, the cloth door panels are coming out, the trunk lids squeaks/rattles, the paint chips WAY too easily, etc. I have owned three Civics, two Acura Integras and an Accord and this car is by far the crappiest of any of them. 
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Originally Posted by cosmo
Since the switch to the Canadian plants for the 2000 model year the resale value of the vehicles and the quality has decreased.
I've owned three Honda/Acuras (92 Civic-made in Japan, 00 Acura EL-made in Canada, and 03 Acura EL-made in Canada), and the quality of each remains just as good. The materials, parts, fit and finish have not degraded whatsoever from my experiences. Resale values still remain strong as well, so I'm not sure where you are getting your info.
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Originally Posted by AzNTiG3R
Not basing this entirely on a personal experience. Do the research. Look at all the other complaints u see bout these cars on this site. Not trying to be a hater of honda, I still love the cars, just saying the quality is going down.
And yeah, Honda may have sold almost a million civics since 01, so what does that prove? NOTHING, esp. not the quality of them.
And yeah, Honda may have sold almost a million civics since 01, so what does that prove? NOTHING, esp. not the quality of them.
Thats what s2000man01 is trying to point out i think. Total vehicles sold compared to total number of complaints is still a valid arguement.
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Originally Posted by MajinB
ummm... if the quality of honda went down then nobody would want one. and it wouldn't be called honda it would be called hyundai. lol. its the straight H not the italicized. maybe your confused. i think the best year was the 95 civic. or 98 when they made si coupes that were not hatchbacks. but quality is there. always will be.
if anyone was to be called a stupid hater, it'd be you.
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Originally Posted by AzNTiG3R
Think of Motorola. They're phone used to be top-of-the-line. Today, they're absolute pieces of shiet. We're just paying for the name brand itself, not the quality. Also, notice how on other cars, they're prices hae gone up as the years progress. Civics' prices have generally stayed the same. My 94 Civic EX was the same price as my 7thgen LX.
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...I couldn't agree more about the comfort of the seats, plus on my cars the drivers seat rocks back and forth (I know there is a TSB - the freakin dealers here won't fix it ) the stereo quits in hot weather, the cloth door panels are coming out, the trunk lids squeaks/rattles, the paint chips WAY too easily, etc. ...
) the stereo quits in hot weather, the cloth door panels are coming out, the trunk lids squeaks/rattles, the paint chips WAY too easily, etc. ...I think its all auto manufacturers though... they're using cheap materials to inrcrease profits, atleast for the low end cars.
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Its all about quality of build at a specific factory. My Canon camera is made in Thailand. Canon being a Japanese firm. The thing still runs beautifully, optics are fantastic and has worked for 2 years now w.out a hitch, and I'm expecting another 10-20yrs problem free.
Its all about quality of build at a specific factory. My Canon camera is made in Thailand. Canon being a Japanese firm. The thing still runs beautifully, optics are fantastic and has worked for 2 years now w.out a hitch, and I'm expecting another 10-20yrs problem free.
