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hey the saturn red line series are actually honda engines inside the saturn body. no joke. so if you want a cheaper honda get a redline series. seriously. i read it in some article.
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Rep Power: 347 You're still stuck with Saturn "quality" and "build". Everything else just looks weird to me. So, even if it has the 3.5L V6, I still wouldn't buy it.
I think everyone is making some pretty poor conclusions based on very little information. I have been following the Solstice (much sexier sister to the Saturn Sky) and it looks like it is going to be a very sweet car for 20k.
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Originally Posted by JP375
I think everyone is making some pretty poor conclusions based on very little information. I have been following the Solstice (much sexier sister to the Saturn Sky) and it looks like it is going to be a very sweet car for 20k.
4 cyclinders down, 4 to go.....
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Rep Power: 0 man ya'll are some whiny bitches. Everyone complains about companies watering down cars (celice, MR2, the Chevy SS series) and when Saturn tries to revive it's image with a cool RWD car everyone bashes on it for 1)having a 4 cylinder-no explanation needed here, that's too insane of an argument coming from 7thgen.com 2) having Valve-timing-hello, Honda didn't invent it, they just put VTEC on every square inch of their cars. Has anyone looked at a BMW recently? INFINITELY variable timing on the intake and exhaust, no "rush" of power at 6K RPMS. give the car a chance, we are beginning to sound like the SRT-4 guys.....(yeah an evo can smoke me, but their clutch sucks....)
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Originally Posted by acjones21
man ya'll are some whiny bitches. Everyone complains about companies watering down cars (celice, MR2, the Chevy SS series) and when Saturn tries to revive it's image with a cool RWD car everyone bashes on it for 1)having a 4 cylinder-no explanation needed here, that's too insane of an argument coming from 7thgen.com 2) having Valve-timing-hello, Honda didn't invent it, they just put VTEC on every square inch of their cars. Has anyone looked at a BMW recently? INFINITELY variable timing on the intake and exhaust, no "rush" of power at 6K RPMS. give the car a chance, we are beginning to sound like the SRT-4 guys.....(yeah an evo can smoke me, but their clutch sucks....)
who invented it then? they named it vtec. after they invented it. omg!
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Originally Posted by MajinB
wtf honda did not invent variable valve timing? um... yeah ... they did.
who invented it then? they named it vtec. after they invented it. omg!
who invented it then? they named it vtec. after they invented it. omg!
I ran across this bio on James Rhoads (of Rhoads lifter (http://www.rhoadslifters.com) fame) years ago:
My father, James E. Rhoads, supported his family of a wife and five boys by laying and finishing hardwood floors. He was, however, an inventor at heart, gifted with an ingenious mind coupled with a strong interest in improving the performance of the automotive engine.
Back in the early 1960's he became interested in a concept of variable valve timing while observing one of my brothers install an offset cam bushing in an engine he was building at the time.
The idea occurred to Dad that the advancing and retarding of the camshaft could be accomplished automatically while the engine was running by designing a timing gear that would move slightly on the camshaft as a function of engine rpm.
A similar device, later to be known as the Varicam, was patented by a local engineer at the same time my father was building his prototype.
Disappointed, Dad set his inventive mind to work once again and developed what has proven to be on of the most advanced performance products on the market today…The Rhoads Vari-Duration Lifter.
This time around he applied for and received a U.S. Patent.
Take that for what it's worth...
My father, James E. Rhoads, supported his family of a wife and five boys by laying and finishing hardwood floors. He was, however, an inventor at heart, gifted with an ingenious mind coupled with a strong interest in improving the performance of the automotive engine.
Back in the early 1960's he became interested in a concept of variable valve timing while observing one of my brothers install an offset cam bushing in an engine he was building at the time.
The idea occurred to Dad that the advancing and retarding of the camshaft could be accomplished automatically while the engine was running by designing a timing gear that would move slightly on the camshaft as a function of engine rpm.
A similar device, later to be known as the Varicam, was patented by a local engineer at the same time my father was building his prototype.
Disappointed, Dad set his inventive mind to work once again and developed what has proven to be on of the most advanced performance products on the market today…The Rhoads Vari-Duration Lifter.
This time around he applied for and received a U.S. Patent.
Take that for what it's worth...
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http://xrint.com/patents/us/4054109
Engine with variable valve overlap
Abstract
Variable overlap of the intake and exhaust valve opening periods for an internal combustion engine is obtained by providing a speed responsive yieldable link in the valve actuating mechanism that varies the effective valve lift with engine speed. The variation is accomplished by flow responsive valves, preferably incorporated in hydraulic tappets for actuating the valves and arranged to begin valve lift only when a predetermined lift rate of the valve actuating cam is reached. Since this rate is reached earlier as the engine speed increases, a greater portion of the cam lift curve is utilized with increased speed, thus increasing the valve lift and extending the valve opening period relative to crankshaft rotation. In this way, angular overlap of the intake and exhaust valve opening periods is varied as a function of engine speed.
Abstract
Variable overlap of the intake and exhaust valve opening periods for an internal combustion engine is obtained by providing a speed responsive yieldable link in the valve actuating mechanism that varies the effective valve lift with engine speed. The variation is accomplished by flow responsive valves, preferably incorporated in hydraulic tappets for actuating the valves and arranged to begin valve lift only when a predetermined lift rate of the valve actuating cam is reached. Since this rate is reached earlier as the engine speed increases, a greater portion of the cam lift curve is utilized with increased speed, thus increasing the valve lift and extending the valve opening period relative to crankshaft rotation. In this way, angular overlap of the intake and exhaust valve opening periods is varied as a function of engine speed.
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