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Old 06-06-2005
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Talking 200 horsepower w/bolt-ons

so here the thing yall. i was talking to these guys and i have a 01 civic ex. d17a2 motor. yall know the rest. i am thinking that i could get my car to 200 hp to the wheels woth a few things. these random guys said there was no way with just bolt ons. i figure intake, exhaust, inderdrive pulleys, a light flywheels and some other things it could be done. i also wanted to play with the ignition system to help out too. i want to get the 200 hp without modifying the internal engine. so like a header would be ok. any suggestions? would be greatly appriciatted. thanx
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you will not get to 200 with those boltons.. Only Force induction like turbo or nitrous will you get those numbers. Search and you will find out
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA ROFL!!....Sorry to tell you this but you will never ever ever ever ever get your D17 motor up to 200hp with basic bolt-ons....HAHAHAHAHAHa
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You will get about 15hp.

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high compression pistons, better valvetrain, cam, etc may get you close.......
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u must be joking right???? basic boltons and such will never get u even close enough to 150hp, let alone 200hp
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You will be lucky to get 135hp with all that you said... go home ricer
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Originally Posted by Titleist71
hi compression pistons, better valvetrain, cams, etc may get you close.......
With those and the basic bolt-ons, I'd be wildly suprised to see 140 at the wheels.
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hahaha. Youll gain 2 or 3 hp if your lucky with all that wasted money. Get a freakin turbo or nitrous if you want to get to 200. Id say turbo.


You got so many responses in 7 minutes. haha, what a noob.

edit- 9 responses in 7 minutes, hahahaha, awesome. ive never had people respond to my threads that fast.
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Im putting down over 300 WHP with my exhuast now....woot woot
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Originally Posted by DrOpPeD2k2CiViC
You will be lucky to get 135hp with all that you said... go home ricer
agreed with the exception of the go home comment. search read and learn. You will find out why everyone is responding this way.
the only 200 hp bolt on I know is a k20a.
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not only bolt ons

yeah i didn't say only bolt ons i just said no internal engine mods. yeah i am a noob. i'm asking for help. any suggestions? real ones? things i can actually put into action. thanx
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go easy on him guys...new member, make them feel welcome, not stupid...

basically, u want a cheap way to get lots of power, just like everyone else..

NOS is all i can say, get you as close to 200 hp as possible with a 75 shot wet kit without putting loads and loads of stress on your car.

Nos involves no internal engine upgrades, but just don't run prolonged periods of boost, or you may risk engine damage, especially with a 75 shot. Other than that, there's nothing else you can do.

bottom line is, there is NO CHEAP way to get HP out of our cars, cause they weren't made for power. All bolts ons do is better air flow which may or may not benefit our cars since its stock tuned for mileage.

one question you can ask youself is: "do i care about how much money i spend" and from the description of your request, you are not the big spender type, and neither is most of the ppl who drive civics (don't try to correct me, statistically, rich ppl don't drive civics period). If you happen to be rich, and love civics, then drop in a few grand and make that baby run 200-300 hp, else you don't have very many options.

good luck
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our cars dont respond very well to bolt ons unlike the older versions. so with the basic i/h/e you might get 5-10hp.
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Originally Posted by booba5185
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stfu...seriously, give the guy a break

anyway, 200hp is not necessarily a realistic goal unless your planning to dump thousands into your d17. Or it could be reached with all of the mods you listed and some nitrous...

If you want just engine mods I would shoot for 150whp (which is still a slight stretch, but probably achievable)...other than that, d17's weren't made for power so your stuck

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to be honest about the whole thing i just wanted to get a feel of what i could squeeze out of the engine externally before i do internal changes. i have a list of stuff i wanna do i just need to wait for my warranty to get off. what does i live by ebay mean? i'm a noob to this site not to engines. just wonderin.
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by the way, it may seem like 150 is very easy to reach because the ex is listed to have 127hp...but thats what the engine puts out, NOT what goes to the wheels. While our engines are putting out 127, just around 100 (maybe even a little less) actually gets to the wheels, so keep that in mind.
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Originally Posted by MajinB
what does i live by ebay mean? i'm a noob to this site not to engines. just wonderin.
means that you buy into the ebay bs of little 'chips' and cheap gadgets adding tons of horsepower for really cheap prices...which doesnt happen
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Originally Posted by Stachmo
stfu...seriously, give the guy a break

anyway, 200hp is not necessarily a realistic goal unless your planning to dump thousands into your d17. Or it could be reached with all of the mods you listed and some nitrous...

If you want just engine mods I would shoot for 150whp (which is still a slight stretch, but probably achievable)...other than that, d17's weren't made for power so your stuck

good luck
my bad, didn't see his post before mine, it has been revoked
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Why do I sense sarcasim...
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no really i take it back....no sarcasim
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you'll have to build the engine, change ECU's, etc to get the kind of power you are looking for n/a.
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too bad i wasnt here earlier i wouldve said something well with my mods which where as follows; lightweight flywheel, stage1 clutch, bored out tb, full exhaust, intake and vafcII i was putting down 125 whp so around 150ish in the engine, without internals i bet you wont put down more than 135 whp and im willing to bet on that (unless you boost or run nitrous) but as all of these guys said 200 hp isnt really possible more like 175hp but whp you wont even come close
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how about you bolt on a turbo kit, or bolt in a k20a2. that'll give you 200hp
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well, if the term bolt on includes bolt on turbo, that wouldnt be a bad start to your 200 HP goal.

Originally Posted by 02boostlessCIV
i was putting down 125 whp so around 150ish in the engine,
125WHP aint bad!

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