k20a2 turbo vs. srt-4
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SRT-4s are just small fish in the sea and aren't in the same league as a car with a boosted K20. Boy am I gonna get flamed for that statement! Anyways, boosted K20s should be compared to WRXs, EVOs, GTs, etc.
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Originally Posted by pwr2thaboost
SRT-4 would smoke u silly... srry man.
Im a non bias owner seeing I love both american and jap cars..
Srt-4s stock 233hp
275hp they put in new injectors and some other stuff
turbo upgrade they crank out 300hp
hes most likely stage 2 kit witch is 275hp
if you compare stock srt-4 to a turbo k20 set at low boost (lets say 6) you'd still walk on the srt-4 anyday.
plus you weigh around 300 lbs lighter than an rsx if your do the engine swap on your 7thgen.
plus you weigh around 300 lbs lighter than an rsx if your do the engine swap on your 7thgen.
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Originally Posted by WhiteCastle
ya modded srt-4 will own you. Know one on this site will admitt it sorry buts its true
Im a non bias owner seeing I love both american and jap cars..
Srt-4s stock 233hp
275hp they put in new injectors and some other stuff
turbo upgrade they crank out 300hp
hes most likely stage 2 kit witch is 275hp
Im a non bias owner seeing I love both american and jap cars..
Srt-4s stock 233hp
275hp they put in new injectors and some other stuff
turbo upgrade they crank out 300hp
hes most likely stage 2 kit witch is 275hp
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My buddy has an srt-4 with a mopar turbo, short shifter, and exhaust.
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
the rods are the weak point when you raise the rev limiter. the stress caused by turbo is much different than the stress caused by higher revving. it's a completely different force. higher revving causes an exponentially larger amounnt of stress, largely due to piston deceleration, rod angle, etc.
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Originally Posted by Got Boost???
We need more info, the only Mopar staged upgrade is Stage 3. But even that would have a hard time pulling a K20 turbo in a 7thgen
The stage 1 is injectors, and a computer, and that increases power to like 260 HP, and the stage 2, is (I think) another computer, with toys.. and a larger turbo. Good for like 300 HP. (I assume the friend has Stage 2, if it has a different turbo).
The stage 3 when it comes out is est at 350 hp.
These are pretty good upgrades that you get installed at a dealership, and still are covered under your factory warrenty.
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Rep Power: 361 the best bet is get your car tuned by a true pro, and then just race it.
The better the tuner the faster your car. And if they are really experienced they might just get you that extra 10-20 horses you couldnt get with someone newer.
Only thing; 11:1 compression ratio with boost = pretty big problem. I would suggest lower compression pistions, like 9:1 or 10:1 depending how much boost you want to run, and new rods are a must. Get a very breathable exhaust and you should be fast fast fast.
or.....Get the Jackson Racing supercharger (race version with upgrade boost pully) and only race him from a stop. All that torque and boost will make your 7thgen pull like crazy.
The better the tuner the faster your car. And if they are really experienced they might just get you that extra 10-20 horses you couldnt get with someone newer.
Only thing; 11:1 compression ratio with boost = pretty big problem. I would suggest lower compression pistions, like 9:1 or 10:1 depending how much boost you want to run, and new rods are a must. Get a very breathable exhaust and you should be fast fast fast.
or.....Get the Jackson Racing supercharger (race version with upgrade boost pully) and only race him from a stop. All that torque and boost will make your 7thgen pull like crazy.
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Originally Posted by AJ Quick
I can't say for the guy.. but there are 2 stage upgrades, and a 3rd coming up sometime soon.
The stage 1 is injectors, and a computer, and that increases power to like 260 HP, and the stage 2, is (I think) another computer, with toys.. and a larger turbo. Good for like 300 HP. (I assume the friend has Stage 2, if it has a different turbo).
The stage 3 when it comes out is est at 350 hp.
These are pretty good upgrades that you get installed at a dealership, and still are covered under your factory warrenty.
The stage 1 is injectors, and a computer, and that increases power to like 260 HP, and the stage 2, is (I think) another computer, with toys.. and a larger turbo. Good for like 300 HP. (I assume the friend has Stage 2, if it has a different turbo).
The stage 3 when it comes out is est at 350 hp.
These are pretty good upgrades that you get installed at a dealership, and still are covered under your factory warrenty.
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Originally Posted by ex_03
Iceburgslim was running @24psi and running 11.5's in the quarter, I dont know all of what he had done the to internals but he had a k20. That thing is sick.
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
it's a joke poking fun at the neon. it has the worst risidual value of any car. If you buy a brand new SRT4 for $20,000, in a mere 5 years it is only worth about $4000.
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Originally Posted by dre2600
I'm aware that the forces are different, but I figured that the rods were just generally weak, I was unaware they were forged, I thought only the S2K had forged internals.
The S2000 just has MORE forged parts, that's all. plus different design, etc. 
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Originally Posted by Alex1
SRT 4 has a lot of torque
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mmm,
it would be pretty hard for you to win, SRT-4 is purely made for straight line.
Maybe you can try race at a close course? That would really be racing.
it would be pretty hard for you to win, SRT-4 is purely made for straight line.
Maybe you can try race at a close course? That would really be racing.
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
your point? just because a car has more torque means absolutely NOTHING.
?? hard to win? with the mods listed, the K20 turbo civic wouldn't hardly have to try.
?? hard to win? with the mods listed, the K20 turbo civic wouldn't hardly have to try.
Of course the SRT-4 is a purely stupidly straight line monster. An Honda Integra, S2000 are more sport race course oriented car. The straight line race is not that much of our category at first place. THerefore, we still can't just underestimate the enemy. Still need to be careful.
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Rep Power: 0 The SRT-4 is 230hp stock. That would be around 198WHP, not to mention the 250lbs/ft torque (STOCK). With 14psi I'm sure he have to be over 300hp EASY and over 325lbs-torque too. Do you have any idea how much boost you need to have a K20 over 300lbs-ft of torque??..... With the mods you've mentioned he have in his car, I doubt you could beat that car with 8psi on a K20A2 on the 1/4 mile. Not even talk about the 40-100 race; SRT-4 are fast as hell on rolled drag racing. Remember that Drag racing is all about torque, not about horsepower.
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Originally Posted by BlackFire
The SRT-4 is 230hp stock. That would be around 198WHP, not to mention the 250lbs/ft torque (STOCK). With 14psi I'm sure he have to be over 300hp EASY and over 325lbs-torque too. Do you have any idea how much boost you need to have a K20 over 300lbs-ft of torque??..... With the mods you've mentioned he have in his car, I doubt you could beat that car with 8psi on a K20A2 on the 1/4 mile. Not even talk about the 40-100 race; SRT-4 are fast as hell on rolled drag racing. Remember that Drag racing is all about torque, not about horsepower.
So how is it making 300hp with 14psi? 
I don't think people realize. A neon srt4 running 17psi boost can run maybe a 13.6. A k20 powered civic running 8psi could likely run 12's. that's why i'm curious why people think a near stock SRT4 is going to beat a K20 boosted civic?
and again, torque is a completely useless factor if you just go "well this car has this much torque so it will win". if that's the case, explain how a stock 153lb/ft S2000 is faster than a 302lb/ft mustang GT. Why? Because torque in and of itself is completely useless. You must look at power band, gearing, weight, etc. All of those things matter JUST AS MUCH as torque.
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Originally Posted by ACURAwerx
aren't people on club rsx at around 9psi running high 12s, low 13s?
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Originally Posted by orion_squall
We still have to be humble here.
Of course the SRT-4 is a purely stupidly straight line monster. An Honda Integra, S2000 are more sport race course oriented car. The straight line race is not that much of our category at first place. THerefore, we still can't just underestimate the enemy. Still need to be careful.
Of course the SRT-4 is a purely stupidly straight line monster. An Honda Integra, S2000 are more sport race course oriented car. The straight line race is not that much of our category at first place. THerefore, we still can't just underestimate the enemy. Still need to be careful.
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Rep Power: 0 Ive seen an RSX-S with a reflash pull away pretty good from an SRT-4 with I/E. Pretty much stock but still. Thier is a Type-S here running 10psi and pushing over 300whp Jetblue can vouch for this. I'll put my money on a boosted RSX vs. an SRT running a lousy 14pounds anyday. Even if the SRT pulls out of the gate by the time their out of second the RSX is reeling by him no prob.
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
lol, do you have any idea that 15psi is the peak boost a stock SRT4 makes? So how is it making 300hp with 14psi?
I don't think people realize. A neon srt4 running 17psi boost can run maybe a 13.6. A k20 powered civic running 8psi could likely run 12's. that's why i'm curious why people think a near stock SRT4 is going to beat a K20 boosted civic?
and again, torque is a completely useless factor if you just go "well this car has this much torque so it will win". if that's the case, explain how a stock 153lb/ft S2000 is faster than a 302lb/ft mustang GT. Why? Because torque in and of itself is completely useless. You must look at power band, gearing, weight, etc. All of those things matter JUST AS MUCH as torque.
So how is it making 300hp with 14psi? I don't think people realize. A neon srt4 running 17psi boost can run maybe a 13.6. A k20 powered civic running 8psi could likely run 12's. that's why i'm curious why people think a near stock SRT4 is going to beat a K20 boosted civic?
and again, torque is a completely useless factor if you just go "well this car has this much torque so it will win". if that's the case, explain how a stock 153lb/ft S2000 is faster than a 302lb/ft mustang GT. Why? Because torque in and of itself is completely useless. You must look at power band, gearing, weight, etc. All of those things matter JUST AS MUCH as torque.
I believe you should have a trip to Puerto Rico and see how are the SRT-4's here doing at the tracks.
But I forgot about something, here we do have an '04 RSX-S running 11's and it's a street car. But I don't know at how much boost and don't know about other mods.
