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HOT! does that mean, focus will now come into 2 dr coupe, next gen maybe?
honestly is HONDA the only one doing coupe/sedan on that civic class?
corolla= sedan
sentra= sedan
mazda 3= sedan
focus= sedan
neon= sedan
lancer= sedan
would be nice if the also have coupe variance like the civic.
honestly is HONDA the only one doing coupe/sedan on that civic class?
corolla= sedan
sentra= sedan
mazda 3= sedan
focus= sedan
neon= sedan
lancer= sedan
would be nice if the also have coupe variance like the civic.
Originally Posted by manahoonie
that's cause it's italian. it will be made in italy. leave it to american car companies to go overseas for their designs.
personally i think its very smart cus im such a fan of italian design and cars.
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Originally Posted by ncirom2003
current acura models also have italian designing (tl,tsx)just like that ford. that focus itself is not italian just inspired by italian design.
personally i think its very smart cus im such a fan of italian design and cars.
personally i think its very smart cus im such a fan of italian design and cars.
sorry...mmm...no
Honda renovated and designed their own things, this is guaranteed. I challenge you finding profs showing honda outsourced their TL and TSX design.
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sorry...mmm...no
Honda renovated and designed their own things, this is guaranteed. I challenge you finding profs showing honda outsourced their TL and TSX design.
im not going to search for hours to prove my point because its obvious IT IS INSPIRED BY ITALIAN DESIGN.
i guess i challenge you to prove me wrong.
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Originally Posted by ncirom2003
current acura models also have italian designing (tl,tsx)just like that ford. that focus itself is not italian just inspired by italian design.
personally i think its very smart cus im such a fan of italian design and cars.
personally i think its very smart cus im such a fan of italian design and cars.
Originally Posted by IronChef
From the article itself: "The Focus Vignale will be co-designed with Ford by Pininfarnia spA of Italy. Pininfarnia will also be responsible for building the product at their Turin plant."
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Rep Power: 0 It's all good. The Vignale looks like a very cool car; well, the concept does anyways. The important question is whether or not the production model will closely resemble the show car.
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Originally Posted by ncirom2003
i never said they outsourced it, i said its italian design. im not taking this just from opinion although i think so. its been in plenty of magazines most memorably motor trend. and just cus its designed by honda doesnt mean they didnt hire an italian to design it, this is POSSIBLE.
im not going to search for hours to prove my point because its obvious IT IS INSPIRED BY ITALIAN DESIGN.
i guess i challenge you to prove me wrong.
im not going to search for hours to prove my point because its obvious IT IS INSPIRED BY ITALIAN DESIGN.
i guess i challenge you to prove me wrong.
You still have to find out if they actually hired an italian team for the car design, in order to say they actually use italian design.
Originally Posted by orion_squall
Honda themself says the car is Euro inspired, jap cars has always been euro inspired. There is nothing new there and there is no need for me to say what Honda says again. Euro includes of many countries and many car manufactuers.
You still have to find out if they actually hired an italian team for the car design, in order to say they actually use italian design.
You still have to find out if they actually hired an italian team for the car design, in order to say they actually use italian design.
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Originally Posted by ncirom2003
no because wether they had a guido or a leperachaun design the car it is still italian design. the lines and looks of the cars styling makes a car what it is not the specific person who designed it. and if you have a problem with it being called italian design too bad for you cus i guess youll have to go after some magazines also.
what guido? what leperachaun design????
Honda never said they followed these design explicitly...I don't recall they ever bought any patented italian design for their cars
In fact, they never even co-design these cars in Italy or with any italian like Ford did. THe only co-designed car is EP-3 type-R, with the british. This is a solid point here.
By the way, I don't read some magasines and automatically claim myself as a savant. I read Honda company profile, that is it.
Originally Posted by orion_squall
what guido? what leperachaun design????
Honda never said they followed these design explicitly...I don't recall they ever bought any patented italian design for their cars
In fact, they never even co-design these cars in Italy or with any italian like Ford did. THe only co-designed car is EP-3 type-R, with the british. This is a solid point here.
By the way, I don't read some magasines and automatically claim myself as a savant. I read Honda company profile, that is it.
Honda never said they followed these design explicitly...I don't recall they ever bought any patented italian design for their cars
In fact, they never even co-design these cars in Italy or with any italian like Ford did. THe only co-designed car is EP-3 type-R, with the british. This is a solid point here.
By the way, I don't read some magasines and automatically claim myself as a savant. I read Honda company profile, that is it.
do you read where i say that i know they havent "co-designed" what im saying is they dont need to co design to make have the looks that an italian car does, and dont act like your the **** when you say something stupid as this "I don't recall they ever bought any patented italian design for their cars ", yea as if any region specific design has a patent. your being stubborn and repeating yourself without reading my posts obviously. i dont see why its so hard for you to admit that OMG honda made a car that has italian styling.
you say you dont read magazines blah blah blah yea ok try to talk me down cus you read honda w/e big deal. you said honda said its euro designed, i dont think the tl look anything like any german cars or any french cars so hmmmmm that leaves italy where they look similiar. and it sure as hell doesnt look swedish so dont even try that one.
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Rep Power: 583 i was wondering when ford was gonna release a drop-top model. i was thinking it was gonna look more like a focus, but this is MUCH nicer. looks like they went the luxo route and not chasing the miata's market like pontiac/saturn are doing.
thats a smart choice on fords part. go for the people that are looking at saab, MB, lexus and bmw convertibles, and give them a cheaper option.
thats a smart choice on fords part. go for the people that are looking at saab, MB, lexus and bmw convertibles, and give them a cheaper option.
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^ ford has a ugly lil crap box called the street ka or just ka or sumthin its a convt. and its got like 80hp. i personally dont like any of fords convertibles but mostly cus i hate ford. i think chevy needs to go this route though when they bring the new camaro
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Originally Posted by ncirom2003
omg your slow!
do you read where i say that i know they havent "co-designed" what im saying is they dont need to co design to make have the looks that an italian car does, and dont act like your the **** when you say something stupid as this "I don't recall they ever bought any patented italian design for their cars ", yea as if any region specific design has a patent. your being stubborn and repeating yourself without reading my posts obviously. i dont see why its so hard for you to admit that OMG honda made a car that has italian styling.
you say you dont read magazines blah blah blah yea ok try to talk me down cus you read honda w/e big deal. you said honda said its euro designed, i dont think the tl look anything like any german cars or any french cars so hmmmmm that leaves italy where they look similiar. and it sure as hell doesnt look swedish so dont even try that one.
so for me making a point and for you for being stubborn and repeating yourself with terrible facts because you realize your faults.
do you read where i say that i know they havent "co-designed" what im saying is they dont need to co design to make have the looks that an italian car does, and dont act like your the **** when you say something stupid as this "I don't recall they ever bought any patented italian design for their cars ", yea as if any region specific design has a patent. your being stubborn and repeating yourself without reading my posts obviously. i dont see why its so hard for you to admit that OMG honda made a car that has italian styling.
you say you dont read magazines blah blah blah yea ok try to talk me down cus you read honda w/e big deal. you said honda said its euro designed, i dont think the tl look anything like any german cars or any french cars so hmmmmm that leaves italy where they look similiar. and it sure as hell doesnt look swedish so dont even try that one.
so
for me making a point and for you for being stubborn and repeating yourself with terrible facts because you realize your faults.haha,
ok, it looks like you can't have a mature conversation without spitting out words like "stupid" etc. If you have to jump around like a redneck and insult people then you will probably make this thread locked and get yourself banned.
I don't know what do you have with the italians, but Honda did not and does not specificly claim they use italian design for TSX/TL, euro means europe in general, that is all. Whatever you said does not represent Honda's vision.
I just don't want people spread wrong info around. That is it.
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Rep Power: 583 ok...did i REALLY have to specify that i meant in america?
chevy has the cavalier convertible. SSr also has a retractable roof. i think theyre more likely to make a convertible monte carlo than bring back the camaro. there is nothing about the camaro in their upcoming cars section...where are you getting that its coming back?
chevy has the cavalier convertible. SSr also has a retractable roof. i think theyre more likely to make a convertible monte carlo than bring back the camaro. there is nothing about the camaro in their upcoming cars section...where are you getting that its coming back?
Originally Posted by orion_squall
haha,
ok, it looks like you can't have a mature conversation without spitting out words like "stupid" etc. If you have to jump around like a redneck and insult people then you will probably make this thread locked and get yourself banned.
I don't know what do you have with the italians, but Honda did not and does not specificly claim they use italian design for TSX/TL, euro means europe in general, that is all. Whatever you said does not represent Honda's vision.
I just don't want people spread wrong info around. That is it.
ok, it looks like you can't have a mature conversation without spitting out words like "stupid" etc. If you have to jump around like a redneck and insult people then you will probably make this thread locked and get yourself banned.
I don't know what do you have with the italians, but Honda did not and does not specificly claim they use italian design for TSX/TL, euro means europe in general, that is all. Whatever you said does not represent Honda's vision.
I just don't want people spread wrong info around. That is it.
now yes honda says european i understand that, thats fine but since italy is in europe its very possible that theyre design was aimed most at italian.
im not stuck on italy, it has nothing to do with my preference its all just the looks of the car here. now obviously your still going to lean back on "you dont know if they hired an italian" and " honda says europe" but when someone makes a statement like i did i think its innapropriate for you to jump on my comment as if you have proof, the honda statement is not proof!
and dont say im spreading the wrong info as if someone could be affected by my opinion..........
