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you're lucky you didn't have valve to piston contact or destroy your valve train. that would be 2500+ down the drain.Originally Posted by ASWZero
ive downshifted into 3rd at about 95 mph and it went to 8000rpms. nothing much happened. that was 20000 miles ago and the car is fine. other than that i can get it to rev to about 7000-7100 before the limiter kicks in. Quote:
You should shift at redline. if you time it right you'll shift right before your rev limiter.Originally Posted by Civic_RedLine
can you explain the last sentence again. Im getting mixed up. SHift at redline or not. are you saying it is unsafe or safe to shift at 7k rpms actually hitting your rev limiter too much IS A BAD THING and puts a lot of stress on your bottom end. eventually you could throw a rod if you hit your rev limiter too much.
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Originally Posted by RealtimeRacing
the redline on my ex is like 6800 but that is a lie because i can take it to about 7000 and then i hit the rev limit. Quote:
from your initial statement you sounded like you didn't. no need to get testy. Originally Posted by RealtimeRacing
i know what redline and rev limiter is. 
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EX's fuel cut off is 6900-7000 (according to my profec e-01), and a DX/LX's is 6800 (according to drivetofast's autometer tach) ... who knows, maybe they're the same though
Originally Posted by aznboysrfr
factory tachs are ALWAYS off in every car.EX's fuel cut off is 6900-7000 (according to my profec e-01), and a DX/LX's is 6800 (according to drivetofast's autometer tach) ... who knows, maybe they're the same though
funny, my 22R will rev till i launch a piston through the hood.
(around 8500 for a stock SHOC engine)
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(around 8500 for a stock SHOC engine)
I don't see how this comment relates to my post ...Originally Posted by 7r4c3r
funny, my 22R will rev till i launch a piston through the hood.(around 8500 for a stock SHOC engine)
bgoetz - your tach is off. get an aftermarket tach, vafc, profec e-01 or anything else that shows your rpms and you'll realize that it's off.
for example, older integra type r's had a limiter at 8600 rpm stock, but for some people, their tach showed 8900. go search honda-tech, you'll see that I'm correct.
same for the b16b's ... some people's tach showed 8900 when it was only 8400 rpms.
same goes for most engines out there.
^^^sorry I did not mean to sound like an ***. I think I was drunk when I posted that because I really don't remember doing it (just now read it and was like "wtf") LOL. I m sure it is a bit off someone did get over 7000 on their VAFC so I bet mine is about the same.
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(around 8500 for a stock SHOC engine)
what does that have to do with this thread, and what is a 22R?Originally Posted by 7r4c3r
funny, my 22R will rev till i launch a piston through the hood.(around 8500 for a stock SHOC engine)
maybe it's an electric motor ... them new SHOC engines are mAd TiTe y0!
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i tihnk its a celica......??? i'm not sureOriginally Posted by S2000man01
what does that have to do with this thread, and what is a 22R? i plan on getting the Hondata flash or k-pro just to lower the vtec changeover. I have never had the motor above 8100 and never plan too. I go by what the factory says you should rev at, not what a tuning company does. 

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Originally Posted by hotrodcivic2004
i tihnk its a celica......??? i'm not sure yep youre right, 1982 Toyota Celica,
carborated, SOHC I4 with NO rev limiter.
22 years old and itll still beat hondas.
^^ wow i'm only vaguley familiar with toyota so it was a guess out my a$$. I4 carborated? wut kind of numbers you pulling from that baby?
stock output from Toyota in 1982
116 BHP @ 5700 rpm
139 FtLBs @ 3200 rpm
engine block can handle 250 BHP with out force induction.
you can check my profile to find out what ive done to it so far.
116 BHP @ 5700 rpm
139 FtLBs @ 3200 rpm
engine block can handle 250 BHP with out force induction.
you can check my profile to find out what ive done to it so far.
Theres a guy with an em hatch that comes to my store once in a while, hes sponsored by skunk2 and has a b18 with about $25000 in the motor alone. I sat in his car and SAW it rev to 13500! thats superbike territory!!!!
thats all in the engine.
lighter flywheel
better ignition
so on and so forth
but it still sounds awsome
lighter flywheel
better ignition
so on and so forth
but it still sounds awsome
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Originally Posted by scansel912
Yea Fuel cut is 7000 rpm according to honda for the ex's. Kid at my work has a fuel cut of 9600 on his 95 hatch. yea...well theres what honda tells you and then theres what really happens.........i accsedently down shifted from 5th to 2nd doing about 90.....so if it counts i got my tac to make a complete 180 going past my 8k marker......needless to say i blew my head gasket, ok....all gaskets.....my lifters.....well they hit my pistons so hard they had to re-surface them, and a slew of other crap.....it was ok thought. didnt cost me a penny.......towing= 7miles free (exactly 7miles to where i blew my engine) Car repair bill'd to honda $2,580( thanks to warrenty).........knowing that i dont have to pay for it............priceless........
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
you're lucky you didn't have valve to piston contact or destroy your valve train. that would be 2500+ down the drain. read post above
I've revved my D17 to 8k over and over at least once every week for the past 6 months. The engine is fine/solid as a rock! It's my transmission and clutch thats not!
what aftermarket ecu do you have?
I don't have an aftermarket ECU i've just got a fuel cut defender installed. I usually change gears at 8k - God dahm the engine screems... In a few weeks I'll have cam + pulleys installed and see how it sounds then..
^so hows it running now
9200rpm
BTW; Your car is NOT making power all the way to 8K RPM, I promise you.
Also, with the stock valve train you are in SERIOUS danger of valve float (and a bent/chipped/broken valve[s] as well as jacked pistons and other internals).
Yes it’s cool to say it goes that high, but with your head and cam (or lack there of) as well as compression and most importantly valve train, you are really putting your engine in danger while making your car slower.
Just FYI.
BTW; Your car is NOT making power all the way to 8K RPM, I promise you.
Also, with the stock valve train you are in SERIOUS danger of valve float (and a bent/chipped/broken valve[s] as well as jacked pistons and other internals).
Yes it’s cool to say it goes that high, but with your head and cam (or lack there of) as well as compression and most importantly valve train, you are really putting your engine in danger while making your car slower.
Just FYI.
i just did it tonight i hit 8000 shifting instead to forth to second at 6000rpm in third my friend was driving showing me something to do with quicker shifting pedal still depressed and clutch shift never ket go of the gas didnt work out to well
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BTW; Your car is NOT making power all the way to 8K RPM, I promise you.
Also, with the stock valve train you are in SERIOUS danger of valve float (and a bent/chipped/broken valve[s] as well as jacked pistons and other internals).
Yes it’s cool to say it goes that high, but with your head and cam (or lack there of) as well as compression and most importantly valve train, you are really putting your engine in danger while making your car slower.
Just FYI.
cliff notes: Originally Posted by NAstage2
9200rpmBTW; Your car is NOT making power all the way to 8K RPM, I promise you.
Also, with the stock valve train you are in SERIOUS danger of valve float (and a bent/chipped/broken valve[s] as well as jacked pistons and other internals).
Yes it’s cool to say it goes that high, but with your head and cam (or lack there of) as well as compression and most importantly valve train, you are really putting your engine in danger while making your car slower.
Just FYI.
mr. piston: Hi, i like being in the top of the cylinder now, so would u kindly get the f*ck out of my way?
Mr. Valve: ouch

exactly.
BTW even doing it for a few seconds can fawk your engine royal. Id reduce your ECUs' fuel cut... like... tonight.
BTW even doing it for a few seconds can fawk your engine royal. Id reduce your ECUs' fuel cut... like... tonight.
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BTW; Your car is NOT making power all the way to 8K RPM, I promise you.
Also, with the stock valve train you are in SERIOUS danger of valve float (and a bent/chipped/broken valve[s] as well as jacked pistons and other internals).
Yes it’s cool to say it goes that high, but with your head and cam (or lack there of) as well as compression and most importantly valve train, you are really putting your engine in danger while making your car slower.
Just FYI.
Originally Posted by NAstage2
9200rpmBTW; Your car is NOT making power all the way to 8K RPM, I promise you.
Also, with the stock valve train you are in SERIOUS danger of valve float (and a bent/chipped/broken valve[s] as well as jacked pistons and other internals).
Yes it’s cool to say it goes that high, but with your head and cam (or lack there of) as well as compression and most importantly valve train, you are really putting your engine in danger while making your car slower.
Just FYI.
I keep hearing this valve floating. Typically its when you have a hyd cam setup like a pushrod motor and you rev it beyond its capacity and pump all the oil from your lifters. Also its when the valve is being compressed to fast for the valve spring to rectract the valve so she stays open for along time almost like a mechanical rev limiter. Usually an engine designed to rev to 6800 is prolly built enough to go past it a bit. How ever you chance over stressing the valve spring and breakage will occure. Which will lead to things you could never imagine. To the person who stated that you are not making power past 7000k.....dead on(if stock cam) the stock cam was profiled to run right to the redline if not before. Going past it is just wasted gas and wear and tear on your internals. Truthfully reving that high has to be built which is prolly why the k does not liked to be toyed with. I have had motors built and engines like in the s2000 is money big time money to build.
I really don't think that hitting the rev limiter causes damage. It is simply a fuel cut off. I have been on the limiter alot and know people that have hit it more and had no problems
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mr. piston: Hi, i like being in the top of the cylinder now, so would u kindly get the f*ck out of my way?
Mr. Valve: ouch
this made me laugh pretty hard. lol. +rep for youOriginally Posted by booba5185
cliff notes: mr. piston: Hi, i like being in the top of the cylinder now, so would u kindly get the f*ck out of my way?
Mr. Valve: ouch
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yeah but if you cut off fuel you are leaning it out big time, and I guess over time this could cause a problem. I have done it uncountable times, But i guess if you did it every time it could lead to problems...Originally Posted by bgoetz
I really don't think that hitting the rev limiter causes damage. It is simply a fuel cut off. I have been on the limiter alot and know people that have hit it more and had no problems

