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auto show pics 56k ouch
here are some pics from a guy I know in Baltimore. He went to the auto show there and sent me a few pics.
new lexus GS300
Team Lexus vehicle
New GTO with hood change
new eclipse
Twin Turbo Viper
Look at those #s closely. They are insane
new lexus GS300
Team Lexus vehicle
New GTO with hood change
new eclipse
Twin Turbo Viper
Look at those #s closely. They are insane
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i wonder if thats 0-60 of the wheels or the car's actual speed. lol...w/ that much power it would be sucha PIA to get any traction in 1st. id be spinning my tires at every stop. i wonder what hear he did that in.
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Originally Posted by slvrcivic
yah I can't even comprehend 0-170 in 9 seconds.....
some cars can't make it to 60 in that time
some cars can't make it to 60 in that time
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Originally Posted by jknudsen
Yeah that car is sick man, and I don't even think my EX '04 auto coupe gets up to 60 in 9 seconds...lol v10 twin turbo, that's orgasmic..anyone know what official 0-60 on an ex auto is?
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10 seconds to 60, give or take.
Usually, drag cars like that viper go with a single-gear transmission and a sick-*** clutch. The clutch "slips" through the entire run, finally grabbing at the end. Most pure drag cars do something of this nature, and the clutch is only good for maybe 3 runs
This is why you don't hear many 8/9 second cars shift. They don't. I took a ride in a 10-second mustang once, and I had breathing problems during the first half of the strip. I nearly pulled a muscle trying to peel my head off the headrest... and this Viper is 50% faster (by trap speed)
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Rep Power: 0 I'd like to see something to prove these numbers. I have no doubt this car makes a ton of hp, but 1600+? A 1.5 0-60? Maybe with some type of traction control like they have in F1, but not just a standard (albeit beefed up) Viper drivetrain. Most of these small performance tuners regularly overstate the true hp by 25-50%. Lets see some proof.
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Originally Posted by slvrcivic
not like I made the car man...
go to the website name on the card and ask them. See what they say
go to the website name on the card and ask them. See what they say
Not challenging you dude. It is a nice ride that I would love to have. I am just saying that in general these performance shops spout these outrageous numbers but then when it comes time to walk the walk, they fall short.
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Originally Posted by stlblues13
Not challenging you dude. It is a nice ride that I would love to have. I am just saying that in general these performance shops spout these outrageous numbers but then when it comes time to walk the walk, they fall short.
well I just wrote them. they can prove the #s for themselves if they care to. I'll post when they reply
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Originally Posted by stlblues13
I'd like to see something to prove these numbers. I have no doubt this car makes a ton of hp, but 1600+? A 1.5 0-60? Maybe with some type of traction control like they have in F1, but not just a standard (albeit beefed up) Viper drivetrain. Most of these small performance tuners regularly overstate the true hp by 25-50%. Lets see some proof.
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Originally Posted by acjones21
I doubt any reputable tuner overstates their numbers, heck Lingenfelter even warranties their packages for two years, so they are probably conservative. Hennesey had a video of a viper pulling a sub 2 second 0-60 and this car has more HP. A Viper drivetrain w/ upgraded Dana axles and 13inch drag slicks can easily do this. And if you doubt the HP, think of this- a standard Viper makes 450 horse, 22 psi puts that at around 1300HP at the crank right there, add the stroker kit and 1600 is very possible, remember this isnt a B16 we're talking about here.
I got that its not a b16. I am specifically remembering an article in R&T a couple months ago, as well as a test they did a year or two ago, where several of these tuners products were tested and the performance numbers fell well short of their claims. Not sure if Lingenfelter made it or not, although I know there cars were included. Also included were Mallett, Vishnu, etc.
Interesting how many on this site are so quick to jump up and demand dyno sheets or time slips to prove mods for our cars, but then will believe any hp and 0-60 claims that some tuner of other cars spits out.
Why would you doubt a tuner overstates numbers? They want to sell their stuff just like any of the manufacturers of stuff for Civics. 
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Originally Posted by senseiturtle
10 seconds to 60, give or take.
Usually, drag cars like that viper go with a single-gear transmission and a sick-*** clutch. The clutch "slips" through the entire run, finally grabbing at the end. Most pure drag cars do something of this nature, and the clutch is only good for maybe 3 runs This is why you don't hear many 8/9 second cars shift. They don't.
I took a ride in a 10-second mustang once, and I had breathing problems during the first half of the strip. I nearly pulled a muscle trying to peel my head off the headrest... and this Viper is 50% faster (by trap speed)
Usually, drag cars like that viper go with a single-gear transmission and a sick-*** clutch. The clutch "slips" through the entire run, finally grabbing at the end. Most pure drag cars do something of this nature, and the clutch is only good for maybe 3 runs
This is why you don't hear many 8/9 second cars shift. They don't. I took a ride in a 10-second mustang once, and I had breathing problems during the first half of the strip. I nearly pulled a muscle trying to peel my head off the headrest... and this Viper is 50% faster (by trap speed)
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Originally Posted by senseiturtle
Usually, drag cars like that viper go with a single-gear transmission and a sick-*** clutch. The clutch "slips" through the entire run, finally grabbing at the end. Most pure drag cars do something of this nature, and the clutch is only good for maybe 3 runs This is why you don't hear many 8/9 second cars shift. They don't.
This is why you don't hear many 8/9 second cars shift. They don't. Thats only for top fuel and funny cars dude..
Even prostock cars run at least 5 speed trannies. Ive yet to see a 8/9 second cars using a single gear tranny.
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Thats only for top fuel and funny cars dude..
Even prostock cars run at least 5 speed trannies. Ive yet to see a 8/9 second cars using a single gear tranny.
Even prostock cars run at least 5 speed trannies. Ive yet to see a 8/9 second cars using a single gear tranny.
You can not shift 4 times in 9 seconds
,it is so hard to hang on to the wheel you don't have time to think-much less shift!Go in the kitchen and get your mothers (wifes) timmer. set it for 9 seconds. set down in a chair at the table and start the timmer.--------- done!!!!!!!!!!!
Also sub 2 second 0-60 has to be a single speed.
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Originally Posted by senseiturtle
10 seconds to 60, give or take.
Usually, drag cars like that viper go with a single-gear transmission and a sick-*** clutch. The clutch "slips" through the entire run, finally grabbing at the end. Most pure drag cars do something of this nature, and the clutch is only good for maybe 3 runs This is why you don't hear many 8/9 second cars shift. They don't.
I took a ride in a 10-second mustang once, and I had breathing problems during the first half of the strip. I nearly pulled a muscle trying to peel my head off the headrest... and this Viper is 50% faster (by trap speed)
Usually, drag cars like that viper go with a single-gear transmission and a sick-*** clutch. The clutch "slips" through the entire run, finally grabbing at the end. Most pure drag cars do something of this nature, and the clutch is only good for maybe 3 runs
This is why you don't hear many 8/9 second cars shift. They don't. I took a ride in a 10-second mustang once, and I had breathing problems during the first half of the strip. I nearly pulled a muscle trying to peel my head off the headrest... and this Viper is 50% faster (by trap speed)
even lisa kubo's civic had a multiple gear transmission. and that was a race built tube frame car.
as stated 1 gear trannies are cars like top fuel dragsters, who have a 1/4 mile measured in a matter of 3 seconds.
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Rep Power: 0 7 second cars and 8/9 second cars is a big difference. I dont doubt there are cars that do use single speed, Im just saying the vast majority of 8/9 cars are either autos with some sort of tranny intererupt or good ol manuals.
And yes, there are people running 9's with 6 speeds, it takes a phenominal driver, but it is still done.
And yes, there are people running 9's with 6 speeds, it takes a phenominal driver, but it is still done.
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production cars dont go with a single gear transmission. lol. most 8-10 second cars built for drag racing are often maybe a 3 gear auto transmission. because ultimately an auto built for racing can shift better than a manual.
even lisa kubo's civic had a multiple gear transmission. and that was a race built tube frame car.
even lisa kubo's civic had a multiple gear transmission. and that was a race built tube frame car.
They are ok if you don't have power like that Viper.
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Originally Posted by pon55
The biggest problem with autos is you can not controll wheelspin (launch)
They are ok if you don't have power like that Viper.
They are ok if you don't have power like that Viper.
once you get into single digits like 5-8 second cars, they use an auto transmission. the human body simply can't shift and try to race a 5 second car at the same time. an auto is faster.
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7 second cars and 8/9 second cars is a big difference. I dont doubt there are cars that do use single speed, Im just saying the vast majority of 8/9 cars are either autos with some sort of tranny intererupt or good ol manuals.
And yes, there are people running 9's with 6 speeds, it takes a phenominal driver, but it is still done.
And yes, there are people running 9's with 6 speeds, it takes a phenominal driver, but it is still done.
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not a drag car that has a race built auto and transmission.
once you get into single digits like 5-8 second cars, they use an auto transmission. the human body simply can't shift and try to race a 5 second car at the same time. an auto is faster.
once you get into single digits like 5-8 second cars, they use an auto transmission. the human body simply can't shift and try to race a 5 second car at the same time. an auto is faster.
But you are correct!
