New supercharged Tc model
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New supercharged Tc model
This is not a repost of any sort I hope. The Tc will be launched as the first vehicle with a supercharger from the factory instead of just as an aftermarket part. 
You could probably go to the dealership and see a couple in different colors and still have the same warrenty.
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You could probably go to the dealership and see a couple in different colors and still have the same warrenty. Auto week link to story
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Rep Power: 0 Niiiiiiiiiiiice. I get my scion next week and my brother has had his for 6 months now. We are both paid customers for the factory supercharger. I cannot wait. We have waited for a while to get the news that this was coming out. First they said it was going to come out in september then january and now they are saying this spring. this time it comes straight from the horses mouth, thats a good sign. Sweet.
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Originally Posted by 2blu
Didnt the old mr2's come with superchargers too?
I heard the SC tC will sell for about $20K.
isn't the Cobra supercharged?
edit: nvm, i just read the article...i didnt know that you were talking about just toyota
i thought that you meant that the Tc is the very first car to come with a supercharger from the factory.lol
edit: nvm, i just read the article...i didnt know that you were talking about just toyota
i thought that you meant that the Tc is the very first car to come with a supercharger from the factory.lol Last edited by fuzzylogic426; Feb 1, 2005 at 11:49 AM.
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The division decided to add the model because 30 percent of respondents to an online survey said they would like a supercharged version, he said.
and i don't think its gonna be 20k for sc Tc... i mean the regular one is already 18k... they would probably try to compete with rsx-s.
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Originally Posted by wonderz
I am sure if they post a survey about who wants a factory super charged is300 or celica, the response would be the same. I feel like they are just trying to hype up the price.
and i don't think its gonna be 20k for sc Tc... i mean the regular one is already 18k... they would probably try to compete with rsx-s.
and i don't think its gonna be 20k for sc Tc... i mean the regular one is already 18k... they would probably try to compete with rsx-s.
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Originally Posted by bradaven760
Compete with the rsx-s?? In almost all aspecs the tC out performs the rsx-s. HP isnt conmparitive but the torque on the rsx-s sucks. the tC will not beat top end speed but the 0-60 and the 1/4 mile will own. Also the handleing is much better than the rsx-s. I saw a whole thing on this on the rsx forums. The tC is simply a better car performance wise. The SC was brought out for competition to the cobalt and the neon srt 4. With the factory SC for the tc you are going to see more power than the srt4 and the cobalt. The dealer told me atleast 10 more hp than those 2 cars. 1 - 2 hp dont mean crap.
If thats the case, then it will be more expensive then all.....What does the SC tc come with 205 hp?....not sure but the new type S comes with 210 not sure about the torque figures but the TC is heavier than the S. So i dont get where you getting the tc will own everything, it hasnt come out yet so chill
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Originally Posted by bradaven760
Compete with the rsx-s?? In almost all aspecs the tC out performs the rsx-s. HP isnt conmparitive but the torque on the rsx-s sucks. the tC will not beat top end speed but the 0-60 and the 1/4 mile will own. Also the handleing is much better than the rsx-s. I saw a whole thing on this on the rsx forums. The tC is simply a better car performance wise. The SC was brought out for competition to the cobalt and the neon srt 4. With the factory SC for the tc you are going to see more power than the srt4 and the cobalt. The dealer told me atleast 10 more hp than those 2 cars. 1 - 2 hp dont mean crap.
isn't the supercharged tc supposed to put out 200hp? 40 over stock. srt4 puts out like 220.. and like 240 torque... and questionable but that is supposed to be to the wheels... the TC won't be closed to that at the wheels.. and ib et the srt4 gets a lot more traction.. and will probably rape it in the 1/4..
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Originally Posted by 2k4ex
If thats the case, then it will be more expensive then all.....What does the SC tc come with 205 hp?....not sure but the new type S comes with 210 not sure about the torque figures but the TC is heavier than the S. So i dont get where you getting the tc will own everything, it hasnt come out yet so chill
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Originally Posted by ACURAwerx
isn't the supercharged tc supposed to put out 200hp? 40 over stock. srt4 puts out like 220.. and like 240 torque... and questionable but that is supposed to be to the wheels... the TC won't be closed to that at the wheels.. and ib et the srt4 gets a lot more traction.. and will probably rape it in the 1/4..
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Originally Posted by nookiemonster
Do I really need to explain this to you?
again im not saying im right.. just going by what I was told
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Rep Power: 347 If I remember correctly, the aftermarket supercharger that TRD will supply supposedly adds 40 hp to the crank, so at the wheels will be considerably less. Although the article didn't mention what other equipment besides a supercharger to enhance the power to the wheels and the level of tuning it would have.
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Originally Posted by bradaven760
Im chill brooo...... I am talkin the tC will beat an rsx-s w/o SC. The RSX-S will win in flout out speed but it will not take a tC 1/4 mile or 0-60. sure it has 210 hp but It only has like 160 ft. lbs torque. The tC has 160 hp but 180 ft lbs of tq I think. 210 hp doesnt mean anything if has no tq. Once the tC is supercharged it is definately a victory. The rsx weights less than the tC? The rsx has all those options. Has leather side curtain airbags and all that crap. I guess the 2.0 engine weighs less than the tC's 2.4 vvit. I dont. Seems like the weight would be prety comparable if not the rsx being heavier. Any other feed back?
It also ways 2905 lbs.
RSX-S has 143 ft lbs tq and weighs 2840 lbs.
so the tC has 20 more ft lbs. tq to move 65 more lbs than the RSX-S.
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Originally Posted by CivicsRdBest
If I remember correctly, the aftermarket supercharger that TRD will supply supposedly adds 40 hp to the crank, so at the wheels will be considerably less. Although the article didn't mention what other equipment besides a supercharger to enhance the power to the wheels and the level of tuning it would have.
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anyone willing to share some rep points?Tranny loss isnt different when you have more or less horsepower. A gain is a gain everywhere.
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Originally Posted by bradaven760
you can explain it if you want to. Im just saying thats what was relayed to me directly from TRD. im not saying they or i am right. I just asked one of my buddies who is general manager of parts at kearny mesa scion. he said thats what they are forcasting. With a bigger engine the gains on bolt on mods are a lot greater than those mods put onto a smaller engine. thats why we see virtually no gains on the 7th gen cause the engine is soo small.
again im not saying im right.. just going by what I was told
again im not saying im right.. just going by what I was told
The main reason people dont see gains on the D17 is because Honda did a great job engineering everything about the engine. The set it up for max performance and efficiency. If they designed the engine well, but made the intake system like crap, then you'd see good gains if you replaced the intake system with a CAI thats better designed. Same thing goes with the exhaust and etc.
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Compete with the rsx-s?? In almost all aspecs the tC out performs the rsx-s. HP isnt conmparitive but the torque on the rsx-s sucks. the tC will not beat top end speed but the 0-60 and the 1/4 mile will own. Also the handleing is much better than the rsx-s. I saw a whole thing on this on the rsx forums. The tC is simply a better car performance wise. The SC was brought out for competition to the cobalt and the neon srt 4. With the factory SC for the tc you are going to see more power than the srt4 and the cobalt. The dealer told me atleast 10 more hp than those 2 cars. 1 - 2 hp dont mean crap
'05 RSX-S - 210 hp 143 ft-lbs, 2840 lbs
So your trying to tell me that a heavier car with 50 less horsepower will win in 0-60 and 1/4 mile.
Hrmmmm lets investigate that
2005 RSX-S 0-60 in 6.2 seconds, 1/4 in 14.9 @ 95 mph
2004 Scion Tc 0-60 in 7.4 seconds, 1/4 in 15.7 @ 88 mph
Try doing your homeork next time before you start making claims
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Rep Power: 343 Also the Tc has no chance in hell with competing with the SRT-4. IF you did your homework you'd see that the SRT-4 is UNDERRATED and makes about 255 hp. The SRT-4 and Tc weight about the same so unless the new TC is making more than 255 hp then it will still be seeing neon tail lights.
The Cobalt SS is also supposed to be underrated
But most rumours have the Supercharged Tc to be in the 200 to 220 hp ballpark, so at best it will be ON PAR with the Cobalt SS and Saturn Ion Redline.
The Cobalt SS is also supposed to be underrated
But most rumours have the Supercharged Tc to be in the 200 to 220 hp ballpark, so at best it will be ON PAR with the Cobalt SS and Saturn Ion Redline.
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Originally Posted by cambo
if it adds 40 more horsepower at the crank, how does that NOT add 40 more horsepower to the wheels?
Tranny loss isnt different when you have more or less horsepower. A gain is a gain everywhere.
Tranny loss isnt different when you have more or less horsepower. A gain is a gain everywhere.
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Rep Power: 347 ^^ Like I said, this is new becuase they were announcing it as a seperate model, or a trim specifically available on dealer lots or as an option, instead of just an aftermarket part.
