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Old Jan 19, 2005
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Mugen unveils the 500+hp 4.0L V8 powered Honda Legend "Max"

Specifications and Equipment

Engine
  • Engine name: Mugen MF408S
  • Engine type: V8 Naturally Aspirated
  • Displacement: 4.0Liters
  • Horsepower: over 500ps
  • Valvetrain: 32 valves, DOHC
Mugen MF408S engine
Debuting in the 2002 ALMS (American Le Mans Series), this 4 liter V8 engine has seen action every year since then. In 2004, it was used in the JGTC Series by the VEMAC RD408R GT500 class racing machine.

Specs for the MF408S in the VEMAC RD408R
  • Layout: 90 degree V8 Naturally Aspirated
  • Displacement: 4000cc
  • Horsepower: 590hp / 9500rpm
  • torque: 383lb/ft / 7500rpm


See the article in its entirety here: http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=319284

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Looks like something Pontiac would make.
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Wow... that's a souped up Acura TL... fn nice man!!
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those are fricking hot!
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Where'd you get TL from? Looks more like an Acura RL to me. Very nice looking, though. Probably gonna cost a small fortune.
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I wonder if thats the V8 that Honda bought from GM? I remeber a while ago there was an agreement that Honda will make engines for GM Saturn line and in exchange GM will sell Honda their V8 engine...... something along those lines if I remember correctly.

I also think that the V8 that GM sold to honda was a diesel maybe? I dunno...... someone get an update on this cuz I remember this vaguely.
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Originally Posted by HustleLikeM0FO
I wonder if thats the V8 that Honda bought from GM? I remeber a while ago there was an agreement that Honda will make engines for GM Saturn line and in exchange GM will sell Honda their V8 engine...... something along those lines if I remember correctly.

I also think that the V8 that GM sold to honda was a diesel maybe? I dunno...... someone get an update on this cuz I remember this vaguely.
Read the article again.

It's a V8 built by Mugen for the Le Mans series. Its a Mugen/Honda designed motor.
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with 590 hp, it will be easy as **** to get that thing to 1000+ awhp
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I like domestics and all but i would laugh so hard if Honda sold that in the states. Mainly because many domestic owners rag on Hondas and now Honda makes a 4.0 V8 that blows theres out of the water, hell even the Viper can't match that.
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posted on srtforums.com muhhahahah

$10 says 99% of the SRT4 owners make some "Honda sux dawg" comment
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WOW. We need some more detailed specs, but that thing is smokin
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HOLY mother of darwin!!!! that is damn sexy.
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whoa, those ITB's made me cream my pants.
a little too much info. but frickin nice car. more HP than a cobra v8 on the SC!!!
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wait......they rnt gonna put that thing into production r they......no.......nuhhu
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they should that would be awesome, honda could compete against cobras, gto's, corvettes.......
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Wow... that's a souped up Acura TL... fn nice man!!
FYI

that is RL, the Legend is an RL
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Acura

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Looks like something Pontiac would make.
But Pontiac isn't an Acura
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that shyt is hot ill trade my gto in for that any day
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Originally Posted by evopanop
Where'd you get TL from? Looks more like an Acura RL to me. Very nice looking, though. Probably gonna cost a small fortune.
The Honda Legend is an Acura RL...
Originally Posted by HustleLikeM0FO
I wonder if thats the V8 that Honda bought from GM? I remeber a while ago there was an agreement that Honda will make engines for GM Saturn line and in exchange GM will sell Honda their V8 engine...... something along those lines if I remember correctly.

I also think that the V8 that GM sold to honda was a diesel maybe? I dunno...... someone get an update on this cuz I remember this vaguely.
Nope, it's a Honda/Mugen in-house design...
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Mugen MF408S engine
Debuting in the 2002 ALMS (American Le Mans Series), this 4 liter V8 engine has seen action every year since then. In 2004, it was used in the JGTC Series by the VEMAC RD408R GT500 class racing machine.

Specs for the MF408S in the VEMAC RD408R
  • Layout: 90 degree V8 Naturally Aspirated
  • Displacement: 4000cc
  • Horsepower: 590hp / 9500rpm
  • torque: 383lb/ft / 7500rpm
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kinda of reminds me of Mazda6's....well the front does....but wow...its beautiful
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Originally Posted by Got Boost???
I like domestics and all but i would laugh so hard if Honda sold that in the states. Mainly because many domestic owners rag on Hondas and now Honda makes a 4.0 V8 that blows theres out of the water, hell even the Viper can't match that.
thats because its completely built up... this car is the equivalent of nothing sold by a car company. honda is amazing for having this but the damn thing has velocity stacks on it which tells me it is obviously fully modded and chevy and ford can make just as much if not more than honda considering american car companys are kings of v8 world. mugen built this engine up... so somebody should look for the leiningfilter corvette pumping oh so much hp(although its turboed) my point is both car companys could tune a v8 to that much its not that honda are geniuses and made a magical v8. and its not practical for honda to produce this car due to the expensive engine they would be better off making a larger displacement engine with less mods than paying mugen to make thousands of these engines
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That's insane...
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If it makes 590hp in current form, I'd say it's pretty safe to say that Honda could make a streetable version that would put out at least 400hp. In fact, they should do that. Then, offer it in the RL. Oh, and make a torquier version and offer that in the Ridgeline. Then, allow people to buy a crate motor version of it, so I can throw it in my Civic! LOL
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looks hella good haha they should put in in production and have all the MCs be rappin bout there legends again haha
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damn!!!!
i love mugen.
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Originally Posted by hotrodcivic2004
they should that would be awesome, honda could compete against cobras, gto's, corvettes.......
Or maybe the CTS-V or 300 SRT8. It's still a 4 door car, on the tack it could compete against those, but in show rooms its unlikely.
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Originally Posted by Takumi
Looks like something Pontiac would make.


no one knows what this guy is talkin about

I think it looks sick
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but the damn thing has velocity stacks on it which tells me it is obviously fully modded
Most nicely engineered V8's (ones that use things other than huge displacement to make big power) and you'll find velocity stacks. Many high end BMWs and Mercedes use velocity stacks. Does this mean they are fully built?

This tells you nothign about the rest of the car. Having velocity stacks does not mean this is a "fully built" motor



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