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Did anyone see the article in Import Tuner about the 6th gen Si that they dynoed from stock and then added I/H/E. The gain was only like 7.6 hp. That seemed really low. I thought the b16 would perform much better than that. That sounds like d17 gains. What do you guys think?
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Rep Power: 0 I dont know, my friend has a 6thgen Si (he posts here too...slammedSI) and it def feels like more than those gains via the butt dyno. He only has i/e right now but soon to be more.
7.6 hp well that seems about right. my friend has one with i/h/e and it does feel alot faster than it did stock, but when we run i beat him or stay right there with him. it feels faster because it is louder and more responsive therefore you beleive it is hauling azz.
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Rep Power: 0 I know the exhaust they used was apex-i. I cant remember what the other brands were. It was just surprising to me. You guys can check out the article in Import Tuner.
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Rep Power: 338 that does seem a bit low. Did anyone see the article on Import Tuner with a 6thgen D16Y6 engine, AEM V2 7WHP gain.
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Anyone know off-hand what the hp (flywheel) gains (in terms of %) are supposed to be for I/H/E? I know that the %'s can vary depending on the brand, but I am looking for best guesses.
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Rep Power: 280 yea it's funny my friend and i have been modyfying our cars since we got them, we both have the same mods, one day we decided to dyno our cars, he had 137 whp and i had 125whp, he had 107tq and i had 113 tq, i was cracking up, same dyno, same shop, so he got a little bit pissed cuz he has a 2000 si and i have 2002 ex
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K20A3 (2004 Si) I/H/E = +14.2 whp and +1.2 wtq. Thats with Comptech exhaust, Comtech intake, and Comptech header.
K20A3 (2003 Si) I/H/E = +13.6 whp and -2.2 wtq. Thats with Tanbe exhaust, K&N Typhoon intake, and DC header
B18C1 (2001 GSR) I/H/E = +7.8 whp and +7.7 wtq. Thats with AEM intake, DC header, DC exhaust.
K20A2 (2002 RSX-S) I/E = +21.2 whp and +9.0 wtq. Thats with Injen intake and Borla exhaust.
B16A3 (2000 Si) I/H/E = +11.5 whp and +7.8 wtq. Thats with AEM intake, AEM exhaust, and DC header.
K20A3 (2003 Si) I/H/E = +13.6 whp and -2.2 wtq. Thats with Tanbe exhaust, K&N Typhoon intake, and DC header
B18C1 (2001 GSR) I/H/E = +7.8 whp and +7.7 wtq. Thats with AEM intake, DC header, DC exhaust.
K20A2 (2002 RSX-S) I/E = +21.2 whp and +9.0 wtq. Thats with Injen intake and Borla exhaust.
B16A3 (2000 Si) I/H/E = +11.5 whp and +7.8 wtq. Thats with AEM intake, AEM exhaust, and DC header.
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Rep Power: 0 That ~7hp though is the final max. hp. gain, with engines like the B16 that needs to be revved to shyte, a friendler HP/tq curve/powerband would be more noticable via butt dyno and one would be able to justify upgrades.
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Originally Posted by Got Boost???
K20A3 (2004 Si) I/H/E = +14.2 whp and +1.2 wtq. Thats with Comptech exhaust, Comtech intake, and Comptech header.
K20A3 (2003 Si) I/H/E = +13.6 whp and -2.2 wtq. Thats with Tanbe exhaust, K&N Typhoon intake, and DC header
B18C1 (2001 GSR) I/H/E = +7.8 whp and +7.7 wtq. Thats with AEM intake, DC header, DC exhaust.
K20A2 (2002 RSX-S) I/E = +21.2 whp and +9.0 wtq. Thats with Injen intake and Borla exhaust.
B16A3 (2000 Si) I/H/E = +11.5 whp and +7.8 wtq. Thats with AEM intake, AEM exhaust, and DC header.
K20A3 (2003 Si) I/H/E = +13.6 whp and -2.2 wtq. Thats with Tanbe exhaust, K&N Typhoon intake, and DC header
B18C1 (2001 GSR) I/H/E = +7.8 whp and +7.7 wtq. Thats with AEM intake, DC header, DC exhaust.
K20A2 (2002 RSX-S) I/E = +21.2 whp and +9.0 wtq. Thats with Injen intake and Borla exhaust.
B16A3 (2000 Si) I/H/E = +11.5 whp and +7.8 wtq. Thats with AEM intake, AEM exhaust, and DC header.
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Originally Posted by Got Boost???
nope all the cars are stock aside from the mods listed
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k platform>>>>>>>>>>>>>>b platform
Ask yourself, if looking at the specific output of say a B18C, finding out how many HP/cc it makes and then adding 200 cc more and a proportional amount of displacement and comparing the HP numbers? They'd be almost the same as a K20A2 in the Type S. Though, I must admit that the power curve is a bit better and torque output isn't as shoddy.
Compare the K series to the B16 though, esp. in terms of specific output and the advances become less stark. I'd say that the K series is a step forward, but in part at least, the increased displacement accounts for that.
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what kind of car do you have orso?
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Originally Posted by orso
i talked to a guy at a dyno shop i was going to go to, couldn't find the time to go though, anyway he told me that he typically sees around 135 on b16 with i/h/e.
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K platform displacement > B platform displacement.
Ask yourself, if looking at the specific output of say a B18C, finding out how many HP/cc it makes and then adding 200 cc more and a proportional amount of displacement and comparing the HP numbers? They'd be almost the same as a K20A2 in the Type S. Though, I must admit that the power curve is a bit better and torque output isn't as shoddy.
Compare the K series to the B16 though, esp. in terms of specific output and the advances become less stark. I'd say that the K series is a step forward, but in part at least, the increased displacement accounts for that.
Ask yourself, if looking at the specific output of say a B18C, finding out how many HP/cc it makes and then adding 200 cc more and a proportional amount of displacement and comparing the HP numbers? They'd be almost the same as a K20A2 in the Type S. Though, I must admit that the power curve is a bit better and torque output isn't as shoddy.
Compare the K series to the B16 though, esp. in terms of specific output and the advances become less stark. I'd say that the K series is a step forward, but in part at least, the increased displacement accounts for that.
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Rep Power: 0 I guess everyone chiding my first message missed the part at the end where I said "I'd say that the K series is a step forward, but in part at least, the increased displacement accounts for that", I guess you all just bypassed the 'in part' bit eh?
I have no doubt that i-VTEC is better than the VTEC used in earlier B-series engines, but I still think that displacement has something to do w. it as well.
I have no doubt that i-VTEC is better than the VTEC used in earlier B-series engines, but I still think that displacement has something to do w. it as well.
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Rep Power: 328 OK...I think you guys are missing a very big point.
7.6 whp gain is probably peak whp gain. NOT ALOT, however, you forget to consider that the gain feels alot more, because you are gaining more power throughout the powerband. Flat spots in the powerband now become more linear, and the car will definitely feel more driveable when the engine can breathe better.
I think there should be a series of children's books called "Keeping Good Kids From Becoming Ricers." One of the books should definitely explain dyno charts, how to read them, and power bands.
7.6 whp gain is probably peak whp gain. NOT ALOT, however, you forget to consider that the gain feels alot more, because you are gaining more power throughout the powerband. Flat spots in the powerband now become more linear, and the car will definitely feel more driveable when the engine can breathe better.
I think there should be a series of children's books called "Keeping Good Kids From Becoming Ricers." One of the books should definitely explain dyno charts, how to read them, and power bands.
