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Old Dec 27, 2004
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Angry D17 is f***** up!

As i found out today, and may come as a shocker to some of you. Our engines DO NOT HAVE AN OIL PAN GASKET. Techincally they do but our gasket isn't a normal gasket that you would see on a b16 or almost every other honda. We use, what is called, a double bond andhesive(which is a bitch to take off after it has dried and been on the vehicle for a while). Why am i saying this is f***** up? Because coincidentally i need to take of the oil pan. And because im a backyard mechanic with my primitive tools i can't do much but i bet that if our engines had normal gaskets i would be able to take it off.
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It's HondaBond. It's not that hard to break loose. Just get a large flat screwdriver and *gently* hammer it inbetween the motor and pan and it'll loosen right up.
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man i tried everything there is no way i can get in there with a scredriver
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man i tried everything there is no way i can get in there with a scredriver
Work at either right in the middle of the pan or on a corner. You've got to be gentle with it though, or you'll bend it.
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there are tabs on the corners to pry it off with. it takes a little persuation but it does come off. Mine did. I just replaced the seal with gasket maker.
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This method has been in use for a long, long, time. Anybody for a little RTV?

It shouldn't be too hard to peel loose.
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hahahahaha.........u act as if u are working on a futuristic car. I took my pan off in 10 min......that includes loosening the bolts.

Crawl under the front of the car and near the tranny there is a tab........pry on that and pound the pan with a rubber mallet. Turn the wheels to the right and reach in through the wheel well and there is a tab there.......pry on that too.

Keep doing it till she comes loose. After it is off the motor........scrape off the excess honda bond and clean it up.........use some high temp RTV or get some more honda bond. I used Komatsu gasket maker which is like $15 a tube...........so far no leaks.
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I had no problem getting mine off either. Then again I had my motor pulled. I took a Razor blade around the crack between block and the oil pan. Then I used a putty knife to pry and it popped right off.
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after fighting with it i succeded at taking it off. thanks guys
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screw driver didn't work for me.... but try using a craw bar, or a chisel hammer or whatever they call it... normally hammers have that s l u t in the middle to pull out nails but this hammer i'm talkin about is just a pointed flat metal on the other side of the hammer that drives the nails...

when you slide underneath your car lookin at the front right corner of the oil pan has this extra metal piece sticking out, place the craw bar or the pointed part of the hammer their and yank it out, don't jerk it, it will fall on your face like it did to me i.e. big lump on the forehead and busted lip and oil all over my hair kinda accident... don't get lazy and drain oil prior to taking oil pan off

well good luck I hope I helped you out...

Originally Posted by taz757
It's HondaBond. It's not that hard to break loose. Just get a large flat screwdriver and *gently* hammer it inbetween the motor and pan and it'll loosen right up.

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damn it! i'm late... oh well i'm in it for the .05

Originally Posted by 02boostlessCIV
after fighting with it i succeded at taking it off. thanks guys
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yea.... he got it out man.... rofl
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just a question for all of you, when you removed your oil pan, did you have to remove the downpipe to get the pan off, or were you able to remove the pan without having to take off the downpipe?
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If you've ever broken apart a differential, it's the same bs you have to deal with. Most diffs use that silicone stuff like a gasket.
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Originally Posted by streetglower
just a question for all of you, when you removed your oil pan, did you have to remove the downpipe to get the pan off, or were you able to remove the pan without having to take off the downpipe?
yes, u will have to unbolt the downpipe and push it to the side.
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Hey BTW I have an aluminum oil pan on my Si Sedan....Is it aluminum on non Vtec cars??????? also..

I remember that on escorts the GT had an aluminum pan and regular escorts had metal pans...

Im happy its aluminum then it doesnt rust out
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Originally Posted by pnoyster2k1cvic
don't get lazy and drain oil prior to taking oil pan off
ummm.........what ???

It is exactly just the opposite
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ummm.........what ???

It is exactly just the opposite
I think he tried to say "Dont get lazy. Drain the oil before removing the pan"
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Originally Posted by 02boostlessCIV
As i found out today, and may come as a shocker to some of you. Our engines DO NOT HAVE AN OIL PAN GASKET. Techincally they do but our gasket isn't a normal gasket that you would see on a b16 or almost every other honda. We use, what is called, a double bond andhesive(which is a bitch to take off after it has dried and been on the vehicle for a while). Why am i saying this is f***** up? Because coincidentally i need to take of the oil pan. And because im a backyard mechanic with my primitive tools i can't do much but i bet that if our engines had normal gaskets i would be able to take it off.
LX has a gasket because it has a steel oil pan....EX has an AL oil pan, doesn't need a gasket, only hondabond.
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