the term "stock"
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the term "stock"
after reading few arguments and whatnot on the board here, i came upon a certain term and wanted to know what are ppls opinions and the true meaning of what "stock" in automotive terms really mean?
im no professional racer in any catergory, im just your average car enthusiast. but what i think the term stock means is that the car cannot have any aftermarket part that will affect the cars performance at all.
someone on the board here defined the term "stock" different which i thought was interesting. he basically says the toggling following wouldnt be considered stock:
-lowering tire pressure
-removal of muffler, b-pipe, pretty much any exhaust component?
-gutting for weight reduction
-removal of power equipment (power steering, power doorlocks, etc)
so i want to know what are your guys input, opinions, offical terms of what the word "stock" stands for in automotive terms? and why?
im no professional racer in any catergory, im just your average car enthusiast. but what i think the term stock means is that the car cannot have any aftermarket part that will affect the cars performance at all.
someone on the board here defined the term "stock" different which i thought was interesting. he basically says the toggling following wouldnt be considered stock:
-lowering tire pressure
-removal of muffler, b-pipe, pretty much any exhaust component?
-gutting for weight reduction
-removal of power equipment (power steering, power doorlocks, etc)
so i want to know what are your guys input, opinions, offical terms of what the word "stock" stands for in automotive terms? and why?
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not modified, not touched, everything OE.....(maybe with the exception of motor oil, tranny fluid coolant, etc).... thats stock.... I think thats what most ppl in the world perceive it as.
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Originally Posted by D17thgen
someone on the board here defined the term "stock" different which i thought was interesting. he basically says the toggling following wouldnt be considered stock:
-lowering tire pressure
-removal of muffler, b-pipe, pretty much any exhaust component?
-gutting for weight reduction
-removal of power equipment (power steering, power doorlocks, etc)
-lowering tire pressure
-removal of muffler, b-pipe, pretty much any exhaust component?
-gutting for weight reduction
-removal of power equipment (power steering, power doorlocks, etc)
removing exhaust components generally can't be done on the fly, is modifying the car AND modifying the HP, so that's not stock.
same for removing power equipment.
gutting car for weight reduction is a gray area. if it's basic things that can be done in minutes, and quickly re-done, it's still considered stock for the most part. but if you're talking major weight modification, then that's not stock. but taking out your spare would be stock. removing a passenger seat or back seat is in the gray area.
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Originally Posted by half_n_half17
stock = came from the factory that way... not modified
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lets say u walk out the dealer lot with ur brand new civic. after 2500 miles, u switch over to a better motor oil. say mobil 1 0w-20. you filled it with the correct amount and no problem with the procedure. next day, a problem occurs and your engine felt "boggy". (could've been a recall, lack of ownership, some mysterious). honda works on your car and when their done, they tell you "your engine warranty is no longer for service because you used a non-honda motor oil fluid on your honda automobile"
how would you guys react?
my point is that every brand new honda car that comes off the dealers lot is definately carrying the honda motor oil. by changing this, is it no longer "stock"?(exclude the used cars)
how would you guys react?
my point is that every brand new honda car that comes off the dealers lot is definately carrying the honda motor oil. by changing this, is it no longer "stock"?(exclude the used cars)
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changing motor oil is still considered stock. changing motor oil on an otherwise stock car, simply won't improve your performance, no matter what your fast and furious friends tell you.
also, honda CANNOT void your factory warranty because you use non-honda motor oil. i dont know if you were saying "what if", but just so you know, it would be illegal for them to void your warranty because of non-honda motor oil.
also, honda CANNOT void your factory warranty because you use non-honda motor oil. i dont know if you were saying "what if", but just so you know, it would be illegal for them to void your warranty because of non-honda motor oil.
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To some stock means no power-adders, but I'm with most people here, OEM means stock, nothing more, nothing less... If it was not manufactered for the country that's it is for, like JDM stuff than it is not stock...
the question is what is stock, not does motor oil void your warranty.
Stock is stock after market hubcaps are not stock, aftermarket intake is not stock, if you wear out your stock tires, and replace them with the same size you car is stock.
If you put 90 Wt. Oil in your engine, or fill the radiator with Oil or something that would probably void your warranty.
Stock is stock after market hubcaps are not stock, aftermarket intake is not stock, if you wear out your stock tires, and replace them with the same size you car is stock.
If you put 90 Wt. Oil in your engine, or fill the radiator with Oil or something that would probably void your warranty.
when i hear stock i usually refer to it as being the way it came from factory, mostly performance parts or suspenion mods
you can have ICE, but other than that i wouldn't consider it stock if it had anoy other mods
you can have ICE, but other than that i wouldn't consider it stock if it had anoy other mods
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well if u go into drag racing, then stock means u cant use any part that did not originally come on that make/model car. model doesnt matter, so like i could put an EX engine into my LX and it will still be considered stock.
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Stock is a car with:
-any air cleaner that fits in the stock airbox,
-any brake pad compound that fits in the stock caliper and can be used with the stock rotor
-with any front anti-roll bar
-any cat-back exhaust
-using any DOT approved tire that fits on a factory sized rim
-is otherwise unmodified
.... according to the SCCA.
-any air cleaner that fits in the stock airbox,
-any brake pad compound that fits in the stock caliper and can be used with the stock rotor
-with any front anti-roll bar
-any cat-back exhaust
-using any DOT approved tire that fits on a factory sized rim
-is otherwise unmodified
.... according to the SCCA.
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Originally Posted by Boilermaker1
Stock is a car with:
-any air cleaner that fits in the stock airbox,
-any brake pad compound that fits in the stock caliper and can be used with the stock rotor
-with any front anti-roll bar
-any cat-back exhaust
-using any DOT approved tire that fits on a factory sized rim
-is otherwise unmodified
.... according to the SCCA.
-any air cleaner that fits in the stock airbox,
-any brake pad compound that fits in the stock caliper and can be used with the stock rotor
-with any front anti-roll bar
-any cat-back exhaust
-using any DOT approved tire that fits on a factory sized rim
-is otherwise unmodified
.... according to the SCCA.
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Yup. Basic maintenance doesn't count. Then again, alot of aftermarket parts are technically considered oem replacements since the function is retained. What about putting oem parts from honda on your car? I think any mod that changes the exact image of the car when you first got it from the factory will mean it's modded.
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does the honda FP (factory performance) package counts as stock? i believe its just suspension work?
if tuning the suspension makes the car not stock, so if honda (the orginal manufactuer) creates parts that "enhance" your car, then is it stock?
lets say honda and aem collided* and join companies/corporations. honda advertises the aem v2 on their showcase at the dealer performance shop and it will not void warranty if bought & installed by honda themselves. would u consider that stock still?
if tuning the suspension makes the car not stock, so if honda (the orginal manufactuer) creates parts that "enhance" your car, then is it stock?
lets say honda and aem collided* and join companies/corporations. honda advertises the aem v2 on their showcase at the dealer performance shop and it will not void warranty if bought & installed by honda themselves. would u consider that stock still?
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Originally Posted by D17thgen
does the honda FP (factory performance) package counts as stock? i believe its just suspension work?
if tuning the suspension makes the car not stock, so if honda (the orginal manufactuer) creates parts that "enhance" your car, then is it stock?
lets say honda and aem collided* and join companies/corporations. honda advertises the aem v2 on their showcase at the dealer performance shop and it will not void warranty if bought & installed by honda themselves. would u consider that stock still?
if tuning the suspension makes the car not stock, so if honda (the orginal manufactuer) creates parts that "enhance" your car, then is it stock?
lets say honda and aem collided* and join companies/corporations. honda advertises the aem v2 on their showcase at the dealer performance shop and it will not void warranty if bought & installed by honda themselves. would u consider that stock still?
it would have to be something offered at the trim level nationwide as a standard.




exactly.