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So I was checking out the Chevy cobalt online and was directed to this site.
http://www.chevrolet.com/cobalt/index.jsp?ad=commotion
anyone else notice a striking similarity between an oh so ricey movie and opening animation on this page? Struck me as pretty lame.

Also whats with the supercharged model only putting out 205 hp and a NA RSX puts out 210 hp? Small price difference....but not much. Still, cobalt is pretty cool even with the lame advertising.

 
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lol thats cute.. but did i see a neon there?!

 
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I find it to be like a NFSU preview/ FATF rip off anyway its retarted but interesting to find out how chevy's " COBALT! will end up doing in the import scene

 
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Ya i think there was one

 
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How much does the RSX puts down to the ground? The Cobalt should put down 197HP. When AEM dyno their stock Ion RL (same engine) it dyno at over 200hp to the ground. If you want to increase hp it would easy, just put a smaller pulley and an intercooler should be getting 250HP easily.

Over all, the Cobalt is the best compact car GM has built and a serious competitor to imports (according to reviews on different magazines).

 
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No matter how hard I try to convince myself on how much it has improved, one general thought remains. It's still a redesigned Cavalier...

 
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does anyone know how much they wiegh ?

 
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any american car manufactuer that trys to blend in the "import scene" will never become sucessful. their known for creating big powerful 8-cylinders and should stick with that. im pretty sure with the work/time put into mustangs/camaros/etc could make those cars much much better than watsing time making 4-cylinders to compete with whats honda/acura/toyota's making.

 
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according to vtec.net the new one puts about the same hp
im too lazy to get a link ..

 
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Yeah its a cavalier Ok it has 200hp 18 inch wheels MP3 player yada yada yada But its a Chev and those cars will be in the shop from day one...

just try and find a 92 cavalier in good shape ..what ohhhh yeah they are all in the scrapyards ..Now find 92 civics ohhhh what thats right Si' still goes for 4 to 5 grand in canada and are still hard to find and not that many in the scrapyards.....Also 92 Paseo's in my opinion still look great and hold value

 
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First off, I had an '88 Cavalier Z24. Had 275,000 miles on it before it threw a rod, and that only happened because I pushed it to 134mph on a stock motor. Would've been swapped with a different motor, had it all planned out, then my adopted father took a sledgehammer to the car because he found out that I moved in with my birth father after I was kicked out of my apartment. There was nothing left of the car, so it was scrapped. The only problem with it other than the thrown rod? The starter went out. I talked to the last owner, who bought it new...no other problems. Never hit the shop except for routine maintanence. And it blew away most imports that I lined up against. KBB price at last check? A little over $900.


Now, we compare this to my current car. '88 Subaru Justy. Check around, it's not rare for people to put 300,00+ miles on these cars....mine's got almost 260 on it now. Problems? Oil leak, clutch is slipping, exhaust leak, occasional engine knocking....indestructible, but it feels like it's been pushed to the edge and back...and the last 2 owners took it easy on it (although the body went to crap). Book price? $225 in excellent condition...


Yes, I fully realize that there is no comparison due to the fact that one is a sport model and the other is an econobox, but still, considering the way a used car has been treated, logic would tell you that a sport model would be worth less, based on the fact that hey, it's considered a sport coupe, it's probably been abused.

 
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Oh yeah...no, that's not a neon. That's the sedan.

 
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has anyone mentioned its a chevy?

 
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I so thought of NFSU when I watched it. I don't think it's that bad, but all the hype better be worth it. I hopped into my friend's Cav and wondered how GM sold those things...

 
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I think the 2 real tests will be the same as the SRT-4... are the mechanicals going to hold up? And is the rest of the car worthy of being a quasi-performance car? The SRT seems to be proving that PVO did their homework on it aside from a couple things that seem easy enough to change. I think you really gotta ask that question here too. The ECOTEC engine isn't all that bad infact, its quite good, but the big problem GM has always had is that they stuff it in to a rental car chassis. Thats the big beef with the ION RL... its still a rolling couch. If they got the chassis right, and people start playing with it, then I think its got some pretty good potential as long as the reliability is there. There's already some talk of some people thinking about trying to race the SS in SCCA club racing next year. The SRT-4s did fairly well this year.

 
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I assume because its supercharged you think it should put out more hp? I can't stand it when people say crap like that. "Oh, its forced induction so it should put out more that an n/a blah, blah..." So effing what? Power is power, who cares how its made? Yeah the common response is: "Put a Supercharger on a 210hp RSX and it'll make more power, blah, blah." Supercharged, turbo, naturally aspirated, who cares. Power is power, bottom line.

 
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Why does everyone keep calling this car a redesigned Cavalier? It's an all new, ground-up design. The only thing this car shares with the Cav (other than maybe an Ecotec engine) is the bowtie badge on the front. Also, the power comparison with the RSX-S neglects one key factor - torque. This car makes 200ft/lbs @ 4400 RPM. The RSX-S? 143ft/lbs @ 7000 RPM! Now, I hate the General as much as the next guy, but if they got the chassis right I think they'll have a decent car here.

 
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reminds me of scion commericals

 
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Id take one

But id defintly take a rsx over it

And id take a scion over an rsx :-P

 
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Well put

I hate how ppl bash cars without even driving it or working on it or seeing any concrete information about it....its ALL OPINIONS
crappy ones at taht

 
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Hell i might work for chevrolet!

depends how they pay in like 1 1/2 years...

 
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i hope chevy goes out of business for even trying to this. what a damn joke.

 
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Yup. I bet it beat the neon too.

 
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what yall dont see is the charger is able to handle 12psi, but it comes from the factory with about 3-4 lbs, so boost it to 12 and you can easily see 300horses @ the wheels, trust me i should i work at a chevy dealership and have seen first hand what theses cars can do...

 
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Nope no neon in there. Just the three different models. Sedan, Coupe, and SS Coupe

 
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its looks alrighyt

 
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I wonder where they are getting their marketing ideas from.

 
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Did you say Neon? Hmm.....

 
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I don't think it should put out more power because of the supercharger. You are definately right, power is power, but I just hate to see forced induction used instead of innovative engine design. Its just lazy to slap on a supercharger instead of squeezing out more from the existing engines displacement. I definately have no gripes about the ecotec. It is much, much better than the crap GM has produced in the past. The whole supercharger thing is just not the approach I would take. And to reply to someon else's post about the torque. Good point, it does have a very significant torque advantage. Just two different takes on engine design. I just can't stand that GM has other supercharged engines such as the 3.8L V6 in the grand prix that are only putting out 260. Give me a break, that displacement with forced induction is capable of much more. Each manufacturer has their reasons (most likely cost), it was just an opinion. I am very much considering the cobalt as a contender when it comes time to trade the civic in.

 
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haha neat, I didn't know Chevy made a Hyundai Tiburon