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I've been told that it is very bad for an engine to go beyond 3,000 rpm. I was wondering what I should tell people b/c since I have a civic it seems that any time I give it a little gas it doesnt seem to have a problem reaching between 5-6000 rpm especially when passing on a highway or getting up to speed at an on-ramp. Is it safe for our cars to be at 5000 rpm at times or should I listen to what they say and keep it below 3000.
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is urs an ex? lx? dx? i know its safe with the ex..
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ok well i rev out when i need to. racing or just screwing around..i mean it doesnt hurt unless you do it allt he time..too much stress on the motor...but like i said i have 57,000 miles and i rev out and have not one problem..
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Your car is equipped with a rev limiter for a reason, if your engine couldnt handle revs over 3k, then thats where the rev limiter would kick in. You cant hurt your engine under 7k, with normal driving of course. If your hualing *** in 3rd all day, then in a year or so, there could be problems.

There are plenty of people on here, myself included, that autocross our cars regularly, on top of driving like asses. Most have been doing it for 3+ years in the same cars & we spend plenty of time bouncing the rev limiter. We keep our oil changed & our maintenance up, & everythings fine. Now our suspension...thats another story

Edit: Oh yea, if its like 30 degrees outside & your engines not warmed up, hell even if its not that cold, DO NOT go over 3k, this time frame is when the most damage occours to normal engines, before the oil can circulate through the whole engine.

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The civic engine was built to handle going over 3,000 rpm, i rarely shift before 5, i always take my car up, so far never a problem. Those engines can handle that all day, just keep your oil change on time, and your fine. I take my car up to 7500 + all the time and nothing happens. its all good.
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I have 82,000 on my 2k1 civic and I drive the hell out of it. I am cruising at 90 at like 3500 rpm if not more and have driven from Houston to San Antonio going over a hundred @ like 4,000 rpm. I love Hondas because they can take a beating. Every morning or just about I floor it atleast once and have it up to 6 or 7k rpm. No biggie. Just keep up on the maint. and you will be fine. Which reminds me, it is time to change the oil! =)
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Oh, one more thing...

If you drive around town like a granny all day, you will end up with carbon buildup in your engine, & your car will run like ****.

I dont know if this is that big of a problem in our engines, but is in older cars. My dads friend worked at a mechanic shop, this old lady would come in all the time with a 60's impalla, big V8, complaining that it was running like crap. My dads friend would just take it out & huall *** up & down the road a few times to clean off all the built up carbon, & presto...like new.

Of course she would be back in a month or so with the same deal...
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^^^agreed thats what my argument was.
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^^^^^ Very True
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Shouldn't cause any problems to have some fun with it. You often hear this from older people as this applies more to engines of the past. Modern engines are made to operate at higher RPMs. Advancements in lubrication and materals have allowed engines to rev higher and not suffer damage. I wouldn't worry about it. I don't see how anyone could stay below 3 grand in a civic, even during day to day driving. Try merging onto a freeway at that speed. Not going to happen. Your engine starts to smile when you get up in the higher revs. Enjoy it.
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^^^^ lol agreed
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Hmmm, in my Mazda, I rev up to 8K regularly, and on occasion past 9K...

In my civic, I rev up to 5-6K normally, and haven't had a problem yet.

On my bike, well let's just say it redlines at 14K.
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Originally Posted by nookiemonster
Hmmm, in my Mazda, I rev up to 8K regularly, and on occasion past 9K...

In my civic, I rev up to 5-6K normally, and haven't had a problem yet.

On my bike, well let's just say it redlines at 14K.
I probably rev to 7k in the civic at least once a day.. Just take care of it, and it will take care of you
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I've tried to baby my car lately. I've had my share of beating up on it in the past. I still lay on it every once in a while. Don't be scared to go over 3k. Hell, you don't even get into the power band until well after 3k. If ya have a 5 speed, beating up on it too much only causes tranny problems, haha. Our transmission is the weakest link. i've had my share of problems with my synchros.
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If you drive a manual and you're cruising down the street at 5k+ rpm ALL the time, that would probably shorten your engine life. i.e. - I wouldn't drive 40mph in 2nd/60mph in 3rd/80mph in 4th for extended periods of time. Maybe that's what whoever was talking about? Either that of they were thinking about gas mileage?
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Yeah I have an automatic and I tried to do this today on lunch, not going past the 3000 rpm. I couldnt get into 3rd gear unless I went past 3000 rpm.
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yea its fine to go above 3k, thats why redline is at 7k.

dont stay low too much either, because of the carbon buildup. this is especially true for rotary's because of soo much buildup. when i had my FC i took it to about 9k once every couple days, give or take a few.
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Originally Posted by jiggerachi
Edit: Oh yea, if its like 30 degrees outside & your engines not warmed up, hell even if its not that cold, DO NOT go over 3k, this time frame is when the most damage occours to normal engines, before the oil can circulate through the whole engine.


Honda Design'd there engines to be drivable at a cold start.....meaning you dont have to wait for them to warm up........its in the manual.........and its perfectly safe in ALL cars regardless of model to go over 3K ....if it wasnt ...your red like wouldnt be at 5K or whatever its at........a redline is in place to tell you were your engine parts cant take the centripical/presser/ or other force's exerted on the engine....
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Originally Posted by nookiemonster
On my bike, well let's just say it redlines at 14K.
14 grand

Now thats a high revving.
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i drive and shift slow at low rpms...usually in between 2500-2700 rpm, but i due screw around with it ocassionaly. but like the brochure said, the 7th gen has been improved to handle higher revs when we need it
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Oue engine doesn't sound like the regular d17. its louder in the low rpms, and its got a deep sound after 3.8k the engine snarls. Its a cool sound, its kinda like a sports car.
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I havd noticed that if you push the car hard for a bit of time, your idle increases. Why Is that? Then drive it gentle for a bit of time the idle drops.

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Originally Posted by Down_
Honda Design'd there engines to be drivable at a cold start.....meaning you dont have to wait for them to warm up........its in the manual.........and its perfectly safe in ALL cars regardless of model to go over 3K ....if it wasnt ...your red like wouldnt be at 5K or whatever its at........a redline is in place to tell you were your engine parts cant take the centripical/presser/ or other force's exerted on the engine....
Not very accurate in this context. You do not want to push your engine until it has reached normal operating temperature. It has less to do with engine design and more to do with oil viscocity. When the oil is cold it does not flow as easily as when it is warm. This means the oil may not be seeping into those tight spaces "as well". It will be adequately lubricated ,but not to the point where you want to mash the gas when you just started your car from -10 deg F. Also, a redline has little meaning outside of a single moment in time. The redline somewhat indicates the max your engine can handle in the form of stresses etc, but this does not mean you can cruise around at redline all day and suffer no ill effects. Time is a very important factor when considering RPMs and engine wear. This is when factors such as creep come into play, and thus causing parts to fail. As an added tidbit, I believe BMW M3's electronically limit your revs when the engine is cold so that you do not cause any damage. Kinda cool. As for the civic, again, if you have good oil and your not cruising around town at 5k, then push her. She likes it when you play rough....
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as long as you keep the engine speed below the redline and that you dont redline your engine all day long then it wont hurt the engine.

I keep my engine below 3k rpm during warm up.
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the redline is set up high for a reason...... thats when youre hurting your engine.
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Originally Posted by jiggerachi
I dont know if this is that big of a problem in our engines, but is in older cars. My dads friend worked at a mechanic shop, this old lady would come in all the time with a 60's impalla, big V8, complaining that it was running like crap. My dads friend would just take it out & huall *** up & down the road a few times to clean off all the built up carbon, & presto...like new.

Of course she would be back in a month or so with the same deal...
my mom's foot redlines at 3000..
almost everytime I take her van and rev it past maybe 4500 it has a slight smell, one time it was a pretty strong smell and u could see some steam/smoke, so we took it in... nothing was wrong.. maybe that was just a gap where it'd been months since I gave it a work out and it was sweating quite a bit :P for lack of a better anaology..
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Originally Posted by joe6680
I've been told that it is very bad for an engine to go beyond 3,000 rpm. I was wondering what I should tell people b/c since I have a civic it seems that any time I give it a little gas it doesnt seem to have a problem reaching between 5-6000 rpm especially when passing on a highway or getting up to speed at an on-ramp. Is it safe for our cars to be at 5000 rpm at times or should I listen to what they say and keep it below 3000.

Who the **** told you that ****ing junk...they drive a mustang or something


haha im such an ***
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Originally Posted by joe6680
Yeah I have an automatic and I tried to do this today on lunch, not going past the 3000 rpm. I couldnt get into 3rd gear unless I went past 3000 rpm.
i think you answered your own question...I bet you didn't even have to ask
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