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Nastage2...when you get humbled, i hope the person that does it makes you feel like an idiot. ive read 2 threads already with u bein a total jerk. You think youre better than other people but I bet when you get dominated you'll probably act as if it never happened, a turn of the head you could say. So u can either just chill out and be cool with everybody or just keep being a jerk and some day it will bite u in ****.

 
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agreed^^^ dude needs to relax
my epifany
if you want a fast car get one, if you want to get a reliable car get a honda, and if you want to make a slow car faster mod it the right way, and keep the rice out. and the main thing to do, DON'T HATE.

 
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NAstage2 is honest without the sugar coating. He didn't say anything in this thread that wasn't true, so let's drop the attack on him here.

 
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try again
your trying to be all high and mighty, but all he did was type headers instead of header, great. Also the header will make a difference in sound with or with our intake and exhaust, maybe not much but it will.
Man you really are a giant deush bag.
OR maybe just a turd sandwich, which ever one you are i pray for you.

 
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again. he stated nothing that was not true:
it really won't make much of a difference in sound if you install just the header. the stock exhaust will cut back most if not all of the aftermarket sound. this is a 1.7 liter 4 cylinder making 127hp. not a 300hp V8.

what... the "try again"? are people seriously that sensitive that they must craft this all-out post attacking a member that says such a thing? amazing.
Who the hell are you talking to? Was my warning previoiusly in this thread apparently not straight forward enough?

 
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Try again-its just so lame-whether he was right or not
I probly couldnt tell if a car had headers or just a header by the sound, but i am sure some people can.

 
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you can't tell if a car has headers or header? Buy hearing you can't tell. HeaderS, means there are a set of heads, i.e. it s V engine. Header means it's an inline engine, inline 4, 5 or 6 cylinder.

 
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the point is, if you are going for sound, the header will provide the least amount of this vs an exhaust or an intake.

 
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anyways

 
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"deush"?

Our public schools at work.


No. There were actually V4s, but those were before the inline 4 came about. It is a VERY inferior design and has not been used ever sense on any successful production vehicle (excluding motorcycles. Harleys have a V twin design)... for a reason.

If you are talking about modern engines, they do have inline 5 and 6 cylinder cars, however, anything with more then 5 cylinders... weather its inline or not (you know they make V6 engines, right?) they require two sets of headerS. A supra, with its inline 6 requires two separate turbo manifolds... or 2 headers of it’s the N/A version.

They also have made and still make "straight 8s", 10s, 12, 16s and I’ve even seen an inline 18 cylinder engine before.

 
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No, no, i meant header or headers whatever you call them i could not tell if its stock or aftermarket just by sound.
I gotta get

 
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Yeah, I know you know the difference. lol I was tring to clarify for others. And yes I am aware of the ancient V4's (high tendance to catch fire) and I've even worked on Ford straight 8's before. However, not all inline 6's require headerS, take a look at the lowwer end (if you can call them low end) BMW's, they have a single header with an inline 6 (at least the in the 90's they did, not sure about new ones). The reason cars like the Supra came with two headers is because of the twin turbo design. And the 2JZ design just made it easier for both the the turbo and N/A to use the same style of heads since they where both essentially the same engine.

Yeah, I know you can get all kinds of wierd engines, in say trains. I saw a V28 once that powered a huge induction motor. I have also stood inside the cylinder of a V16 (it was used as a backup generator for a steel mill) and the turbo was taller than me. In short I've seen plenty of engines, and I didn't build a 10 second Camaro by not knowing what headers are. lol I realize there are people out there with far more knowledge than my self, but I'm not an idiot at cars.

 
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It's a hobby. I do up my car because I love too. I don't go out and try and make it as fast as possible because I know that's not gonna happen (unless I spend some nice coin).
I want a fast car but at the time, when I bought my Civic, I couldn't afford one... That's probably why most people bought a Civic.

 
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We all have our own reasons for buying what we bought and we don't need to agrue about personal reasons here.

Anyway, this thread has greatly diverged from it's orginal topic, time to close.