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Old Oct 16, 2004
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does Front wheel(FF layout) drift?

hello everyone.I had a friend here in 7thgencivic.com, he told me about this site coz i got my new civic, i told him that front wheel can drift, but he doesnt believe me, and he told me theres a lot of guys here say that as well.please check this video guys.



http://crabdrifting.com/pictures/cv4.wmv




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nice vid
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well i duno. a real drift does not involve the e brake. and what that dude was doing really f's up your rear brakes.
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but drifting itself, explains that when your car rear bumper started to skid, thats what they call drift, it didnt explain that there is an exception to do drifting, as long as you make your rear make skid, thats drifting.it doesnt matter if it is FF(front wheel layout) or FR(rear drive layout) as long as u make your rear bumper skid, it wont count how you do it, as long as it skid, thats drifting.PEACE
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Drifting is more of a controlled slide.
You can't just lock the rears on a FF, have it slide, and tell your friends he drifted.

Just about the only way to make a FF drift is by pulling the e-brake.
E-brake drifting in a FR is a noob method so most people don't like to count it as a drift.
But as you can see in the video, it takes alot of skill to pull off a proper drift in a FF.
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I can make my civic drift in certain turns by going into the turn 35 mph over the recommended speed, heading straight towards the apex if the turn, and then making a HARD turn....... then the rear wheels break free. I wouldn't recommend it unless you really know your car though, cause the first time I did it it was an accident, then I went back to that turn and kind of perfected it, so now I can do it in alot of turns.
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thats stupid. you deserve to crash if you do this on the road and not a track. no offense but you know its true
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drifting in a FWD car is actually powersliding.

you cannot drift FWD vechicles, you can powerslide them, but not drift them.
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you will certainly crash if you try it in road, even if you drag in road you will still crashed ,if you dont know your car it will positively happen, the point is, its about your skill bro, no offense, drifting in front wheel is way difficult than rear drive car,i complimet 02civicpimp, that he actually do it, nice bro.
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4wd powersliding, is also called drifting. like the lancer evolution.and 4wd powersliding is similar to four wheel drift too, so, it ios considered also drift.
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that was really something...
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drifting on FWD no, ***-dragging yes

on a RWD car the rear wheels are pushing the car with direct power to break traction controllably
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e brake that beyaach!
get a 350z and drift it weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! lol
i guess u wont have to work as much
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seen it before, thats not drifting
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that hatch was pretty impressive. but is it really necessary to actually to "drift" with the e-brake? thought it'd be better to just road race then pulling ebrakes but im guessing it was all for fun and games?

i wouldn't catergorize it as drifting imo. pretty much what others said up their spoken for me.
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If u go over 35 mph in to turn ur whole car just slides and u dont really have control unless u let off the gas or hit the brakes, well thats what happens to me anywya. Pulling the e-brake is a type of drift. It is for noobs to drifting but it is still a drift. Is pulling the ebrake really that bad for ur brakes? Cause if it is im Fcked!
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nice movie...

I'd say thats the best FF drifting can do...
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so, what do you call it?even the true drifters call it drift, I think there wrong and your right bro! LOL, PEACE
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your right, but the best way to make your FF car drift is to use the E- brake, even professionals use it, if you dont want to use the e-brake, u can get the FR layout. PEACE!
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If uve ever seen the drift bible Keichi Tsuchiya himself uses the ebrake to initiate slides. He doesnt need to but he teaches u how to.
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nice

nice drifting vid.
really screws up the e-brake...it's like drag racing backwards.

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nice vid!
Drift
To cause a vehicle to exceed its tires' limits of adhesion, exhibiting a lateral slip, resulting in an oversteered condition.
http://www.driftsession.com/glossary.htm
not, rear wheels spinning throughout a literal slip.
i consider it drifting, and it looks like there is so much more skills involved.
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E-brake Drift

E-Brake Drift
This technique is very basic, pull the E-Brake or side brake to induce rear traction loss and balance drift through steering and throttle play. This can also be used to correct errors or fine tune drift angles. Main drift technique used in FWD vehicles.

1. Enter a turn at a speed too high for the vehicle to handle (if you do not drift, your vehicle should experience understeer at this speed).

2. Heel-Toe Downshift to get your vehicle into a gear low enough to pull you through a drift (2nd gear).

3. Turn your wheels sharply into the turn. By the time you finish downshifting and turning your wheels, you should be at the apex of the turn.

4. Hold in the release button on your E-Brake and pull up your brake sharply, then quickly release (e-brake is held up for only about 1 second). If using a RWD car, clutch in while pulling your E-Brake. If using a FWD car, keep on the throttle while pulling your E-Brake.

5. When you feel the vehicle’s rear end kicking out, immediately countersteer the wheels to face straight with the road. Your vehicle will pull in the direction of the front wheels, as long as the wheels are still moving. Keep on the throttle. If you press the brakes or let off the throttle because your vehicle is in an extremely oversteered condition, you will spin out or leave the road.

6. When you wish to straighten out your car, after completing the drift, let off the throttle smoothly and straighten out the wheels as your vehicle kicks in line behind the front tires.

http://www.driftsession.com
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nice caucasian.asian, your right, Im asking all your opinion, coz my friend here, says that only rear wheel drive cars can drift, But I told him, 4WD and FF can Drift too, But Involves lots of skills to do it, and whats cool is, our civic can drift too.its better to buy an old FF car to practice with before doing it in your precious civic, then take a vid out of it. thats the coolest thing to do. PEACE
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its not that hard to pull the ebrake and then turn ur wheelz. I used to do **** like that in my celica.
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yes it is easy, but if you have a tight course, u need like to do inertia drift, for the tight corners, and you need skills to do it, but in simple corners, its just easy to drift with your FF car, but be careful,you might fck up ur e brake.
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Originally Posted by 02civicpimp
I can make my civic drift in certain turns by going into the turn 35 mph over the recommended speed, heading straight towards the apex if the turn, and then making a HARD turn....... then the rear wheels break free. I wouldn't recommend it unless you really know your car though, cause the first time I did it it was an accident, then I went back to that turn and kind of perfected it, so now I can do it in alot of turns.
Not offense, but it sounds more like your entering a corner fast, try to enter apex, dont reach it and then tug at the steering wheel at whatever direction you need it to go, and drop the throttle at the same time.... correct me if I'm wrong, but please dont take it the wrong way... just want some clarity. From the suspension mods you listed, it's unlikely your rear end will step out or swing out very much.
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ebraking around a course like that isnt easy, pullin ebrakes in the country is... if you ask me, its more difficult to ebrake drift around a course like that because its more consuming than just double tappin the brakes or mashin the accelerator in a powerful rwd car...
and yes ebraking will cause warpage in the rear drum/rotor as well as a loose cable
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So, in any sense, the FF cars can drift, but be very careful of your e-brake, better buy a cheap FF car to practice with, before doing it in your precious car.If you look the video, it looks like very easy, but in reality, its very difficult to do it, you must have your timing,concentration, presence of mine and ofcourse your skills itself. If you have all this aspect you make your FF car drift easily.
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