does Front wheel(FF layout) drift?
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Not that I would drift my car because I think its stupid and my car is FWD.
Note: "Just because your cheap stock tires give when pusehd 6/10ths and cause them to make noise causing you to underteer does not mean your drifting"
In the video the dude is doing controlled slides and look like drifts to me. Who cares if he used the E-brake. You would have to use the e-brake even on some all-wheel drive cars that understeer. Don't flame and start talking about how STI can drfit I said some all-wheel drive systems.
Note: "Just because your cheap stock tires give when pusehd 6/10ths and cause them to make noise causing you to underteer does not mean your drifting"
In the video the dude is doing controlled slides and look like drifts to me. Who cares if he used the E-brake. You would have to use the e-brake even on some all-wheel drive cars that understeer. Don't flame and start talking about how STI can drfit I said some all-wheel drive systems.
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modoman, I know 240sx,corrola or ae86, rx7, they are good to drift, what is in the topic is, if it is possible to drift the FF car,thats why i post the video clip, to prove that FF car can drift too, Please read the meaning of drifting before you post. PEACE
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Rep Power: 0 who said real drifters dont use ebrake?? if thats the case why do they make splinter *****?? i ve drifted my car on several occasions and everyone tells me nice drifting. ive checked my brakes and they are still newer than the new ones i was gonna get at discount auto parts. ive also drifted with people from japan that drift and they also use the ebrake. if you have a slow car or stock wether it be ff or fr you will need to use the ebrake to brake traction. unless you have a 500hp(exaggeration) you will not be able to break traction going around a turn
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And before ANYONE goes nuts drifting everwhere, go to a LARGE EMPTY parking lot on a snowy day and spin your car so you can get used to the feeling, learn how to recover from a spin, and then learn how to put it all together (counter-steering, left foot braking, heel-toe, rev matching, weight transfer, e-brake-ing) so you can control your car under even the worst circumstances. And once you get all that down, I still don't recommend anyone drifting, EVER!
And before ANYONE goes nuts drifting everwhere, go to a LARGE EMPTY parking lot on a snowy day and spin your car so you can get used to the feeling, learn how to recover from a spin, and then learn how to put it all together (counter-steering, left foot braking, heel-toe, rev matching, weight transfer, e-brake-ing) so you can control your car under even the worst circumstances. And once you get all that down, I still don't recommend anyone drifting, EVER!
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Originally Posted by jovenilleb
modoman, I know 240sx,corrola or ae86, rx7, they are good to drift, what is in the topic is, if it is possible to drift the FF car,thats why i post the video clip, to prove that FF car can drift too, Please read the meaning of drifting before you post. PEACE
i know what drifting is.
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ebraking around a course like that isnt easy, pullin ebrakes in the country is... if you ask me, its more difficult to ebrake drift around a course like that because its more consuming than just double tappin the brakes or mashin the accelerator in a powerful rwd car...
and btw these forums are for DISCUSSION which involves an evolving subjest, so yes i know what the topic is, and im stating several comments about the intitial topic at hand, which is drifting. PEACE
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Originally Posted by modoman
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i know what drifting is.
i say get a rwd car because fwd drifters will never keep up with rwd. if you are going to be serious about drifting, rwd is the way to go. watch any competition, if there happens to a fwd car in the mix, its in last place.
and btw these forums are for DISCUSSION which involves an evolving subjest, so yes i know what the topic is, and im stating several comments about the intitial topic at hand, which is drifting. PEACE
i know what drifting is.
i say get a rwd car because fwd drifters will never keep up with rwd. if you are going to be serious about drifting, rwd is the way to go. watch any competition, if there happens to a fwd car in the mix, its in last place.
and btw these forums are for DISCUSSION which involves an evolving subjest, so yes i know what the topic is, and im stating several comments about the intitial topic at hand, which is drifting. PEACE
as i mentioned in a previous topic similar to this...if you're gonna drift stick with the FR layout, and if you're stuck with the FF layout learn grip driving techniques. simple.sure you can drift in an FF but why not use techniques that better suit the vehical??
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Originally Posted by jovenilleb
hello everyone.I had a friend here in 7thgencivic.com, he told me about this site coz i got my new civic, i told him that front wheel can drift, but he doesnt believe me, and he told me theres a lot of guys here say that as well.please check this video guys.
http://crabdrifting.com/pictures/cv4.wmv
please reply your comments.
http://crabdrifting.com/pictures/cv4.wmv
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Rep Power: 0 my friend redmeansgogo, your ryt bro, but the topic is asking, do FF layout drift?thats the question, im happy to hear from you that FF layout drifts too, not only the FR layout can drift,and olso I would add, the 4WD layout also compete in drifting competition, It doesnt what car you have, as long you are familiar, I would say, that you are master in using your car, FF, FR, 4WD layout, and sure you can compete in drifting tight corners,FF and 4WD drive layout are very good in dragging, coz they got good grip,
P.S If you apply your grip driving technique in the drifting courses, You might be fck up, coz your slowing your time, when cornering, especially in close tight corners, So if you wont make your FF layout drift in drifting courses, your Fck UP, PEACE BRO.
bro, thanks for the comments.PEACE
P.S If you apply your grip driving technique in the drifting courses, You might be fck up, coz your slowing your time, when cornering, especially in close tight corners, So if you wont make your FF layout drift in drifting courses, your Fck UP, PEACE BRO.
bro, thanks for the comments.PEACE
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Rep Power: 0 my friend redmeansgogo, your ryt bro, but the topic is asking, do FF layout drift?thats the question, im happy to hear from you that FF layout drifts too, not only the FR layout can drift,also I would add, that the 4WD layout also compete in drifting competition too,In drifting, It doesnt what car you have, as long you are familiar with it, I would say, that if you are master in using your car,you can use any of this layout( FF, FR, 4WD layout), and sure you can compete in drifting tight corners,and also FF and 4WD drive layout are very good in dragging, coz they got good grip,
P.S If you apply your grip driving technique in the drifting courses, You might be fck up, coz your slowing your time, when cornering, especially in close tight corners, So, if you wont make your FF layout drift in drifting courses, your Fck UP, PEACE BRO.
bro, thanks for the comments.PEACE
P.S If you apply your grip driving technique in the drifting courses, You might be fck up, coz your slowing your time, when cornering, especially in close tight corners, So, if you wont make your FF layout drift in drifting courses, your Fck UP, PEACE BRO.
bro, thanks for the comments.PEACE
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who said real drifters dont use ebrake?? if thats the case why do they make splinter *****?? i ve drifted my car on several occasions and everyone tells me nice drifting. ive checked my brakes and they are still newer than the new ones i was gonna get at discount auto parts. ive also drifted with people from japan that drift and they also use the ebrake. if you have a slow car or stock wether it be ff or fr you will need to use the ebrake to brake traction. unless you have a 500hp(exaggeration) you will not be able to break traction going around a turn
What you people are doing is powersliding, and mocking a drift. Drifting originated by the drivers who would compete on hill sides racing around winding roads, and not slowing for the apex until the very last second in a RWD, yes RWD car that would make the tail end break loose and the car would essentially do a guided powerslide (drift) around the corners of the course. So if you look at the original purpose or intent of a drift, it came from RWD setups powersliding around corners. NOT FWD.
In the end, drifting is still the slower way around the track. Is it cool? That's a subjective question, but in my opinion yeah, it's pretty fun to watch, and takes a good deal of skill to pull it off. Would I do it? NO. It burns up tires, and results in slower times. It's a good point to remember, that while drifting around a track might "feel" more aggressive and faster, it's usually the technique that feels more controlled, and slower that turns out the best times. In other words, finding the right line to enter an apex, and taking the proper exit...and dare I say it...YES, grip driving is faster than drifting.
By the way, I've broken the rear traction countless times in my RX-8 and in my father's RX-7 FD3S and both have far less than 500 HP. Ricer logic, I'm afraid just can't overcome real world physics.
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Rep Power: 0 You're an idiot. Just because someone is from Japan does not make them the authority on what is and what isn't. Drifting is a controlled powerslide caused by a car's natural tendency to break the rear loose, and countersteering to get around the apex of the corner. The last time I checked FWD cars don't have a "natural tendency" to throw the tail end out.
What you people are doing is powersliding, and mocking a drift. Drifting originated by the drivers who would compete on hill sides racing around winding roads, and not slowing for the apex until the very last second in a RWD, yes RWD car that would make the tail end break loose and the car would essentially do a guided powerslide (drift) around the corners of the course. So if you look at the original purpose or intent of a drift, it came from RWD setups powersliding around corners. NOT FWD.
In the end, drifting is still the slower way around the track. Is it cool? That's a subjective question, but in my opinion yeah, it's pretty fun to watch, and takes a good deal of skill to pull it off. Would I do it? NO. It burns up tires, and results in slower times. It's a good point to remember, that while drifting around a track might "feel" more aggressive and faster, it's usually the technique that feels more controlled, and slower that turns out the best times. In other words, finding the right line to enter an apex, and taking the proper exit...and dare I say it...YES, grip driving is faster than drifting.
By the way, I've broken the rear traction countless times in my RX-8 and in my father's RX-7 FD3S and both have far less than 500 HP. Ricer logic, I'm afraid just can't overcome real world physics
your not an idiot, but i call you moron, powersliding is consider a drift, yes FR cars are intended to do drift, but you cant just ignore the FF and 4WD cars in drifting,you said you have a RX7 car but you dont have guts to drift them then I call you a ******, no guts at all, You dont even have a guts to perform a drift in your FR car, how come in FF and 4WD layout car,******, only people who have guts do there FF cars drift, In drifting competition is about guts, no ******s included there, or I can recommend you to join the ****** club.Yo! even if its FF car, when it powerslide( drift) but can always be attain by using the E brake, it still called drifting, Basically, drifting is getting your car sideways down a road. It doesn't sound very hard does it? Sounds a lot like power sliding huh? Well it isn't. It's much more complex. Instead of a drifter causing a drift and then countering to straighten out, he will instead over-counter so his car goes into another drift. That is the reason many drifters do it in the mountains, because there are many sharp turns strung together. So in essence a good drifter has the ability to take five or six opposing turns without having traction at any point in time.
So basically, in opposing corners, if your good in drifting, drifting is more faster than grip driving. PEACE BRO.
What you people are doing is powersliding, and mocking a drift. Drifting originated by the drivers who would compete on hill sides racing around winding roads, and not slowing for the apex until the very last second in a RWD, yes RWD car that would make the tail end break loose and the car would essentially do a guided powerslide (drift) around the corners of the course. So if you look at the original purpose or intent of a drift, it came from RWD setups powersliding around corners. NOT FWD.
In the end, drifting is still the slower way around the track. Is it cool? That's a subjective question, but in my opinion yeah, it's pretty fun to watch, and takes a good deal of skill to pull it off. Would I do it? NO. It burns up tires, and results in slower times. It's a good point to remember, that while drifting around a track might "feel" more aggressive and faster, it's usually the technique that feels more controlled, and slower that turns out the best times. In other words, finding the right line to enter an apex, and taking the proper exit...and dare I say it...YES, grip driving is faster than drifting.
By the way, I've broken the rear traction countless times in my RX-8 and in my father's RX-7 FD3S and both have far less than 500 HP. Ricer logic, I'm afraid just can't overcome real world physics
your not an idiot, but i call you moron, powersliding is consider a drift, yes FR cars are intended to do drift, but you cant just ignore the FF and 4WD cars in drifting,you said you have a RX7 car but you dont have guts to drift them then I call you a ******, no guts at all, You dont even have a guts to perform a drift in your FR car, how come in FF and 4WD layout car,******, only people who have guts do there FF cars drift, In drifting competition is about guts, no ******s included there, or I can recommend you to join the ****** club.Yo! even if its FF car, when it powerslide( drift) but can always be attain by using the E brake, it still called drifting, Basically, drifting is getting your car sideways down a road. It doesn't sound very hard does it? Sounds a lot like power sliding huh? Well it isn't. It's much more complex. Instead of a drifter causing a drift and then countering to straighten out, he will instead over-counter so his car goes into another drift. That is the reason many drifters do it in the mountains, because there are many sharp turns strung together. So in essence a good drifter has the ability to take five or six opposing turns without having traction at any point in time.
So basically, in opposing corners, if your good in drifting, drifting is more faster than grip driving. PEACE BRO.
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Rep Power: 328 Ok n00b if you learn how to read, I never said I didn't have "the guts" to drift. Tell ya what, I've been to Iraq and driven hummers through gunfire, I think I have more than enough "guts" that it takes to "drift."
And okay, you just reiterated everything I said. Grow up...
Did he just say "PEACE BRO?????"
LOL...kids these days...ricer kids in particular...hahahahaha
Oh, and by the way, I highly doubt you "drift" your little civic in the mountains. Otherwise you would have fallen off by now
and it would be a faster technique if you simply took the correct line through the corners rather than being a ricer with his best friend e-brake. Doesn't surprise me how you love to grab and pull on that long shaft.
Ask zzyzx his opinion on drifting...probably THE MOST educated and competent driver on this site.
I don't give a **** what you kids think, pulling the E-brake to mimmick a "drift" is just as bad as the kid who drives an automatic and puts it in neutral to roll back a few inches everytime he starts to make people think he's driving stick. I've never seen a professional driver on a professional track in a respected professional sport (except for ricer exhibitions) pull the E-brake in a FWD vehicle to "drift." The car is not designed to behave that way. But I do see them break the rear loose on RWD and even AWD cars all the time. Just turn on top gear sometime.
Here's an example in my fav's list
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/andy.wray/topgear.wmv
And this guy doesn't give a damn about drifting. He just drives the car and it normally behaves that way. Never seen this happen with FWD, until ricers get behind the wheel and get e-brake happy.
By the way, I've broken the rear traction countless times in my RX-8 and in my father's RX-7 FD3S and both have far less than 500 HP. Ricer logic, I'm afraid just can't overcome real world physics
And okay, you just reiterated everything I said. Grow up...
Did he just say "PEACE BRO?????"
LOL...kids these days...ricer kids in particular...hahahahaha
Oh, and by the way, I highly doubt you "drift" your little civic in the mountains. Otherwise you would have fallen off by now
and it would be a faster technique if you simply took the correct line through the corners rather than being a ricer with his best friend e-brake. Doesn't surprise me how you love to grab and pull on that long shaft.
Ask zzyzx his opinion on drifting...probably THE MOST educated and competent driver on this site.
I don't give a **** what you kids think, pulling the E-brake to mimmick a "drift" is just as bad as the kid who drives an automatic and puts it in neutral to roll back a few inches everytime he starts to make people think he's driving stick. I've never seen a professional driver on a professional track in a respected professional sport (except for ricer exhibitions) pull the E-brake in a FWD vehicle to "drift." The car is not designed to behave that way. But I do see them break the rear loose on RWD and even AWD cars all the time. Just turn on top gear sometime.
Here's an example in my fav's list
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/andy.wray/topgear.wmv
And this guy doesn't give a damn about drifting. He just drives the car and it normally behaves that way. Never seen this happen with FWD, until ricers get behind the wheel and get e-brake happy.
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^"just as bad as the kid who drives an automatic and puts it in neutral to roll back a few inches everytime he starts to make people think he's driving stick"
taking no offense but i put the tranmission into Neutral in my auto during heavy traffic to keep my right foot on the brake. so i get a quick foot rest some sort =|
taking no offense but i put the tranmission into Neutral in my auto during heavy traffic to keep my right foot on the brake. so i get a quick foot rest some sort =|
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Rep Power: 0 there you go again,your making ur show off, that uve been in iraq and driving hammer,ya ya ya whatever, I dont give a fck old man, I think your getting nuts, you said that kids are pulling brake, to make car drift, you must be insne, Just try to look that video, thats professional driver , you must be an nooB old man, hahahahahahahaha, you didnt know what your saying,the video that u post,he do it in FR cars, coz, he might dont know how to drift the FF car, or maybe he dont have a guts, just like you, LOL, If im as old as you old man, im sure I know already how to drift FF car,LOL,
Its cool and its unique, but most of all, FF cars really drift..
Its cool and its unique, but most of all, FF cars really drift..
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What the fvck? Do you know what punctuation, much less what spelling is? Go learn how to read and you'll see that I posted that I have "broken the rear end loose on both of my mazdas." This means that I have gotten them sideways fvcktard.
I'm 22 by the way, if that qualifies me as an "old" man I really don't give a flaming ****. I'm not insecure enough to let a riceboy calling me an "old man" bother me.
By the way, I've seen 17 year old kids fighting in Iraq. And if you read your own retarded post, you'd know why I brought it up.
And yeah, I must be a noob since Jeremy Clarkson was drifting a FWD car in that video...whatever moron, the last time I checked the RX-8 is RWD. Oh and it's cool and unique...oh, oh and best of all, FWD cars do drift.
Grow up.As much as it hurts you to read it, and as much as it joys me to say it...RICEBOY LOGIC CANNOT OVERCOME PHYSICS. POWERSLIDING your FWD car around a corner is not the most timely manner of handling the corner, but in some cases DRIFTING a RWD or in some cases, an AWD car can be faster.
Why don't you go "drift" your civic off a cliff.
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Rep Power: 0 Wow, all this yelling and it will never be resolved between you two. The definition of "drifting" is not clear here and won't be. It's based on heavy opinion now, or atleast until some dictionary or rule book claims otherwise.
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Rep Power: 0 hey jovenilleb, FF cars can drift, but would you use it in a real racing situation to win and not gain the attention of the crowd?
mazda maniac is correct, you are unnaturally forcing the car (FF) to slide sideways due to the front wheels doing the driving and the turning, where as in an FR and 4wd layouts its more natural due to the front wheels turning and the realwheels accelerating.
theoretically any car can drift, logically why would you drift when you when its unpractically in a racing simulation?
give up kid there are people who study driving/racing techiniques on this site.
end of story if you want to win, find that line and improve your grip driving techniques
mazda maniac is correct, you are unnaturally forcing the car (FF) to slide sideways due to the front wheels doing the driving and the turning, where as in an FR and 4wd layouts its more natural due to the front wheels turning and the realwheels accelerating.
theoretically any car can drift, logically why would you drift when you when its unpractically in a racing simulation?
give up kid there are people who study driving/racing techiniques on this site.
end of story if you want to win, find that line and improve your grip driving techniques
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Rep Power: 0 hey nokiemoster, why wont you join the f@gg0t club, you didnt say that you broke your two mazda in your previous post , oh well, you just dont want to be called a f2gg0t.
I know you been in Iraq, just shitting in the steet, and let dogs there eat your crap. why wont you go back in Iraq, and let the Iraque blow your ***, LOL,
Nokiemonster old man, the topic in this post, Do really FF car drift? thats what it is you Noob lod man, coz I got a Friend here doesnt believe that FF car drift.or i would say, his not convince.
Noobler doesnt know what topic is.
hey redmeansgogo, your right men,you got the point in there.
I know you been in Iraq, just shitting in the steet, and let dogs there eat your crap. why wont you go back in Iraq, and let the Iraque blow your ***, LOL,
Nokiemonster old man, the topic in this post, Do really FF car drift? thats what it is you Noob lod man, coz I got a Friend here doesnt believe that FF car drift.or i would say, his not convince.
Noobler doesnt know what topic is.
hey redmeansgogo, your right men,you got the point in there.
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Rep Power: 349 Just because your rear wheels are sliding out does not mean you are drifting. You are the people that give imports a bad name.
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just want to ask...is impela a FF?
because policeman drifts...
because policeman drifts...
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how about crown victoria and chrisler interpid...what are they?
I think policeman drifts in all of them, and in japan the police cars are honda City (worth than civic), they drift too
probably a matter of skill, lol
I think policeman drifts in all of them, and in japan the police cars are honda City (worth than civic), they drift too
probably a matter of skill, lol
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Originally Posted by cambo
drifting in a FWD car is actually powersliding.
you cannot drift FWD vechicles, you can powerslide them, but not drift them.
you cannot drift FWD vechicles, you can powerslide them, but not drift them.
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Originally Posted by orion_squall
just want to ask...is impela a FF?
because policeman drifts...
because policeman drifts...
Crown Victoria is FR.
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Originally Posted by nookiemonster
By the way, I've broken the rear traction countless times in my RX-8 and in my father's RX-7 FD3S and both have far less than 500 HP. Ricer logic, I'm afraid just can't overcome real world physics.
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hey nokiemoster, why wont you join the f@gg0t club, you didnt say that you broke your two mazda in your previous post , oh well, you just dont want to be called a f2gg0t.
I know you been in Iraq, just shitting in the steet, and let dogs there eat your crap. why wont you go back in Iraq, and let the Iraque blow your ***, LOL,
Nokiemonster old man, the topic in this post, Do really FF car drift? thats what it is you Noob lod man, coz I got a Friend here doesnt believe that FF car drift.or i would say, his not convince.
Noobler doesnt know what topic is.
hey redmeansgogo, your right men,you got the point in there.
I know you been in Iraq, just shitting in the steet, and let dogs there eat your crap. why wont you go back in Iraq, and let the Iraque blow your ***, LOL,
Nokiemonster old man, the topic in this post, Do really FF car drift? thats what it is you Noob lod man, coz I got a Friend here doesnt believe that FF car drift.or i would say, his not convince.
Noobler doesnt know what topic is.
hey redmeansgogo, your right men,you got the point in there.
