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I have an Evo. Don't compare the Evo to a boosted RSX. The Evo was not built for horsepower. This is a big misconception, just because the car is fast.
The thing has massive rotors, both front and back. That along with a rediculous suspension and functional aero dynamics. The car responds well to mods and the engine is damn near bullet proof. The motor can handle over 500whp with stock internals, just like the SRT-4. So no one knock the neon on steroids cuz that car was built for nothing but performance as well. I drive some the other day and was very impressed. LONG gears on those...
But yeah back on topic... The car is great, new or used. The interior was made the way it is for a reason. Easy to take apart/modify. The handles behind the steering wheel for the windsheild washer and turn signals are spaced from the wheel farther then normal so you don't smack them on a bumpy turn. It's small stuff like that that show how the car is intended. It's a driver's car. plain and simple
The thing has massive rotors, both front and back. That along with a rediculous suspension and functional aero dynamics. The car responds well to mods and the engine is damn near bullet proof. The motor can handle over 500whp with stock internals, just like the SRT-4. So no one knock the neon on steroids cuz that car was built for nothing but performance as well. I drive some the other day and was very impressed. LONG gears on those...
But yeah back on topic... The car is great, new or used. The interior was made the way it is for a reason. Easy to take apart/modify. The handles behind the steering wheel for the windsheild washer and turn signals are spaced from the wheel farther then normal so you don't smack them on a bumpy turn. It's small stuff like that that show how the car is intended. It's a driver's car. plain and simple
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Originally Posted by DodgeNeonSRT-4
(an aftermarket boost will always have its shortcomings...)
Aftermarket cars battle high compression ratios and also cheaper internals never intended to run at anything over atmospheric pressure.
Either way you will have weak engine internals and weak fuel systems and the like. no matter what you are going to have problems after you aim to push a car's horsepower past stock. every type of tuning (turbo, n.a., supercharged, etc) has ups and downs.
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but how does your statement agree with the fact that stock turbo cars can't handle higher boost without upgrades to the internals? both the evo ans srt can do over 500 ponies, after only adding fuel and a higher flowing turbo/intercooler...
but how does your statement agree with the fact that stock turbo cars can't handle higher boost without upgrades to the internals? both the evo ans srt can do over 500 ponies, after only adding fuel and a higher flowing turbo/intercooler...
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Originally Posted by diskreet
Any boosted car will have its shortcomings. Stock boost is babied, and boost amount and internals are skimped a little to keet it mild and reliable.
Aftermarket cars battle high compression ratios and also cheaper internals never intended to run at anything over atmospheric pressure.
Either way you will have weak engine internals and weak fuel systems and the like. no matter what you are going to have problems after you aim to push a car's horsepower past stock. every type of tuning (turbo, n.a., supercharged, etc) has ups and downs.
Aftermarket cars battle high compression ratios and also cheaper internals never intended to run at anything over atmospheric pressure.
Either way you will have weak engine internals and weak fuel systems and the like. no matter what you are going to have problems after you aim to push a car's horsepower past stock. every type of tuning (turbo, n.a., supercharged, etc) has ups and downs.
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Originally Posted by MadWheel
I have an Evo. Don't compare the Evo to a boosted RSX. The Evo was not built for horsepower. This is a big misconception, just because the car is fast.
The thing has massive rotors, both front and back. That along with a rediculous suspension and functional aero dynamics. The car responds well to mods and the engine is damn near bullet proof. The motor can handle over 500whp with stock internals, just like the SRT-4. So no one knock the neon on steroids cuz that car was built for nothing but performance as well. I drive some the other day and was very impressed. LONG gears on those...
But yeah back on topic... The car is great, new or used. The interior was made the way it is for a reason. Easy to take apart/modify. The handles behind the steering wheel for the windsheild washer and turn signals are spaced from the wheel farther then normal so you don't smack them on a bumpy turn. It's small stuff like that that show how the car is intended. It's a driver's car. plain and simple
The thing has massive rotors, both front and back. That along with a rediculous suspension and functional aero dynamics. The car responds well to mods and the engine is damn near bullet proof. The motor can handle over 500whp with stock internals, just like the SRT-4. So no one knock the neon on steroids cuz that car was built for nothing but performance as well. I drive some the other day and was very impressed. LONG gears on those...
But yeah back on topic... The car is great, new or used. The interior was made the way it is for a reason. Easy to take apart/modify. The handles behind the steering wheel for the windsheild washer and turn signals are spaced from the wheel farther then normal so you don't smack them on a bumpy turn. It's small stuff like that that show how the car is intended. It's a driver's car. plain and simple
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Originally Posted by DowntownRicer
What do you mean skimped, from what i read the 2005 evos are running like 20 psi in boost, that doesnt seem like a skimp to me - especially for a 4 cyl.
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I wouldn't say that huge disgusting wing is "functional." I'm quite sure, they could have gave it a less obnoxious wing that is also "functional."
something stat like xxxx newtons of downforce at 104 mph or something...
I trap a lot higher than that and I don't feel my *** end shaking around, so I'm not going to mess with it...
Originally Posted by diskreet
Ok so the evo doesnt fall into the one example i gave. I love the evo but if its already @ 20psi, how much more can you really push from the thing? thats a huge amount of boost, no? I know you can get a little more from the car but with it pushing almost 300hp on stock internals at 20 psi, there is only so much more you can push it. If im wrong and you guys are seeing tons of cars running like 30psi then tell me, but last time i checked anything over like 15 is huge (common sense also tells me the same).
that would be fun...
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go get srt-4 can pick one up for like 17 grand they dont hold value well..
im talking about 25,000 miles too
I say they bring over the ford focus RS from europe so 7thgeners can try to rip at that one saying its just a focus on steriods
go get srt-4 can pick one up for like 17 grand they dont hold value well..
im talking about 25,000 miles too
I say they bring over the ford focus RS from europe so 7thgeners can try to rip at that one saying its just a focus on steriods
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Rep Power: 380 The only time downforce is going to help you is in the corners, otherwise its just added drag = Slower acceleration....Unless ofcourse you actually need it to stop you from flying off the track (Top fuel dragsters...)
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Originally Posted by Zzyzx
The only time downforce is going to help you is in the corners, otherwise its just added drag = Slower acceleration....Unless ofcourse you actually need it to stop you from flying off the track (Top fuel dragsters...)
mercedes GTR had a downforce problem
I was watching that race too
Originally Posted by Zzyzx
The only time downforce is going to help you is in the corners, otherwise its just added drag = Slower acceleration....Unless ofcourse you actually need it to stop you from flying off the track (Top fuel dragsters...)
Originally Posted by WhiteCastle
ever want a cheap used very fast car
go get srt-4 can pick one up for like 17 grand they dont hold value well..
im talking about 25,000 miles too
I say they bring over the ford focus RS from europe so 7thgeners can try to rip at that one saying its just a focus on steriods
go get srt-4 can pick one up for like 17 grand they dont hold value well..
im talking about 25,000 miles too
I say they bring over the ford focus RS from europe so 7thgeners can try to rip at that one saying its just a focus on steriods
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Rep Power: 328 As far as I'm concerned, a FWD car doesn't need anymore downforce on it's rear wheels. It needs the most traction up front, so why take away from it? Unless you like huge obnoxious wings.
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Originally Posted by DodgeNeonSRT-4
exactly. I saw a 2003 the other day with 12k miles on it selling for 12 grand...who cares about resale value, I'm not enough of a moron to let mine go...cheaper srt-4's means more for me
thats good cause no one else wants them. Anyway why do you think everyone is selling them, cause they are turbo neons
sorry man srt-4s are the 'fastest piece of crap' around. Even people on srt-4 forums call them crap.
like I said a millino times, the people on the srt-4 forums are the least knowledgeable srt-4 people
and I guarantee that no one else wants them...considering that there are a few thousand of them out there and I found six ebay ads...do the math
I really don't care if it is a piece of crap...it may very well be...I care about the zoom factor and only the zoom factor
and I guarantee that no one else wants them...considering that there are a few thousand of them out there and I found six ebay ads...do the math
I really don't care if it is a piece of crap...it may very well be...I care about the zoom factor and only the zoom factor
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Rep Power: 360 im glad you like them. i personally despise anything made by american car manufacturers and i seem to be one of the 7 people on THIS forum who believe a car cant only be measured in straight line speed. i dunno what to say. i hate neons with a passion so i will stop bugging you
i dunno what to say. i hate neons with a passion so i will stop bugging you 
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Rep Power: 286 [QUOTE=diskreet]Ok so the evo doesnt fall into the one example i gave. I love the evo but if its already @ 20psi, how much more can you really push from the thing? thats a huge amount of boost, no? QUOTE]
20psi is the most youd probably run onthe 16g that comes on the evo. if you want more power, need a new turbo
20psi is the most youd probably run onthe 16g that comes on the evo. if you want more power, need a new turbo
Originally Posted by diskreet
im glad you like them. i personally despise anything made by american car manufacturers and i seem to be one of the 7 people on THIS forum who believe a car cant only be measured in straight line speed. i dunno what to say. i hate neons with a passion so i will stop bugging you
i dunno what to say. i hate neons with a passion so i will stop bugging youIf honda came out with a respectable car I would be tripping over myself to get it too
