Muscle --> Chick...wtf?
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Originally Posted by TurboDieselDrew
Huh? The 2005 Mustang V6 and Mustang GT will both have more power than the 2004's.
How is a 400hp, big *** RWD, 2dr car a chick car? Or a 300hp RWD Mustang?
You drive a Neon, Civic, Probe and Accliam... don't talk to us about chick cars.
How is a 400hp, big *** RWD, 2dr car a chick car? Or a 300hp RWD Mustang?
You drive a Neon, Civic, Probe and Accliam... don't talk to us about chick cars.
Power to weight ratio my friend. A 305 hp cobra really isn't that powerful when you consider it has to tow 3446 pounds...when you consider that that 305 HP comes at 5800 you really put it into perspective of why it runs a 14.3 stock. (I'm using the Road and Track numbers on my friend's 96 SVT Cobra).
We ran both our cars at Englishtown, just with slicks otherwise bone stock, pretty much equally matched drivers - srt-4 wins by almost a second from a standing 1/4. we switched cars to see if it was the driver making the difference, same result.
the 2003 cobra I have heard is significantly faster (13.5 range) but I have also seen these whipped by stock "superneons"...whether you like it or not, turbo four > 10...maybe that's why it has been named by many magazines as
"America's next great muscle car"
anyway...I was referring to the baseline model which is far more common than the GT or Cobra in terms of numbers produced (and it usually comes in automatic...add insult to injury
)About my other three cars...Civic...I really don't think you're going to talk trash about that on here...that would be foolish
Probe...if you want to think that's a girl car, I guess that's your opinion, I don't really see how it is but whatever
Acclaim...lol, if this is a girl car, well...this is an old man car more than anything else...what's girly about driving a box, a square, with a whopping stock 106 HP that's already 11 years old...lol...it's like driving a lincoln, except lighter and not as fancy...definetely not for girls
besides, I figure anything that can run a 10 in the standing 1/4 is not for girls
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Originally Posted by nookiemonster
Neon's are chick cars what's your point SRT-4 man? You kids and your neons...you can put a V8 in a hyundai accent, it's still a freakin accent...a chick car. So, SRT-4 boy, don't you feel like a big man now? I hear those Toyota Echo boys are also an unruly bunch who like to put V8's in their chick cars also.
Bottom line is that I'd rather drive a chick car mustang than a chick car neon, no matter what engine it has in it. End of story.
Next time, if you're gonna poke fun at a type of car, be ready to have some s.hit served to you as well. I find it ironic as fvck that a guy who drives a neon is calling mustangs "chick" cars.
Bottom line is that I'd rather drive a chick car mustang than a chick car neon, no matter what engine it has in it. End of story.
Next time, if you're gonna poke fun at a type of car, be ready to have some s.hit served to you as well. I find it ironic as fvck that a guy who drives a neon is calling mustangs "chick" cars.
Secondly, you don't need a V8 to go fast, anyone with a brain knows this. Please, don't try to compare anything to my srt-4, because I'm going to have to serve you a giant helping of ownage pie.
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if u look at the new GTO they had designed it to be more like a japanese style car...the style of vehicals are changing and along with all of the new age and just plain new cars, pontiac is adapting to what is popular amongst most ppl and selling within that market...i still think the new GTO is badass
btw anyone know what "Pontiac" stands for?
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Some redneck made that up.
I don't think you should go around
saying that.
BTW: Nookie just got Owned.
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Originally Posted by ImportGrl
of course you are.. and im not saying you shouldnt have opinion, nor was i talking directly to you or anyone. just the general comment of "chick car" as if any car that is somewhat fast is too much for a chick to be driving.. or its more of a mans car. imo, thats bullshit. also, the comment i made about people downing cars like the GTO was simply because i see a lot of people who are so quick to talk smack but they arent showing anything better. thats all.
"chick" car --> 1999 VW beetle with big smile decal on rear window
A real woman can drive whatever the hell she wants, I've seen women that drive a shitload better than guys and know a lot more about wrenching than they do. It's the car that is "chick" not the girl.
PS...about your Saleen comment...I don't really respect people driving Saleens...I respect the power of the car, but not the driver, usually because 99% of that work was done by someone else
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Originally Posted by JX6
Some redneck made that up.
I don't think you should go around
saying that.
I don't think you should go around
saying that.
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BTW: Nookie just got Owned.
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Originally Posted by DodgeNeonSRT-4
If you saw my "Neon" and the very few exterior mods I have done to it, you would think otherwise...if you saw the engine bay, you would clearly think otherwise about the "girly" comment. But that's alright, whether it's a girl's car or not, it still runs 10's consistently
Power to weight ratio my friend. A 305 hp cobra really isn't that powerful when you consider it has to tow 3446 pounds...when you consider that that 305 HP comes at 5800 you really put it into perspective of why it runs a 14.3 stock. (I'm using the Road and Track numbers on my friend's 96 SVT Cobra).
We ran both our cars at Englishtown, just with slicks otherwise bone stock, pretty much equally matched drivers - srt-4 wins by almost a second from a standing 1/4. we switched cars to see if it was the driver making the difference, same result.
the 2003 cobra I have heard is significantly faster (13.5 range) but I have also seen these whipped by stock "superneons"...whether you like it or not, turbo four > 10...maybe that's why it has been named by many magazines as
"America's next great muscle car"
anyway...I was referring to the baseline model which is far more common than the GT or Cobra in terms of numbers produced (and it usually comes in automatic...add insult to injury )
Power to weight ratio my friend. A 305 hp cobra really isn't that powerful when you consider it has to tow 3446 pounds...when you consider that that 305 HP comes at 5800 you really put it into perspective of why it runs a 14.3 stock. (I'm using the Road and Track numbers on my friend's 96 SVT Cobra).
We ran both our cars at Englishtown, just with slicks otherwise bone stock, pretty much equally matched drivers - srt-4 wins by almost a second from a standing 1/4. we switched cars to see if it was the driver making the difference, same result.
the 2003 cobra I have heard is significantly faster (13.5 range) but I have also seen these whipped by stock "superneons"...whether you like it or not, turbo four > 10...maybe that's why it has been named by many magazines as
"America's next great muscle car"
anyway...I was referring to the baseline model which is far more common than the GT or Cobra in terms of numbers produced (and it usually comes in automatic...add insult to injury
)If you care about power to weight ratio why did you even start this thread about missing real muscle cars so much? Your entire arguement doesnt make sense now. A muscle car is a big, heavy *** RWD car with a ton of horsepower.
I know about the fast neons. There a few in the area that visit the local message boards and proclaim the exact same things you do. I'm tired of hearing how great the Neon is from Neon owners.
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Originally Posted by TurboDieselDrew
I know about the fast neons. There a few in the area that visit the local message boards and proclaim the exact same things you do. I'm tired of hearing how great the Neon is from Neon owners.
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Originally Posted by DodgeNeonSRT-4
Yeah...I love the fact that guys like him post, think they've own3d, and then when I have an actual life and they don't see me respond for three days they affirm that they've own3d...all after not really even reading the original post
BOTTOM LINE: Your car is a neon. I don't care how fast it is. It can be the fastest car in the world, it's still a neon--designed to be cute, so you my friend have very little ground to stand on when it comes to making fun of other cars (especially mustangs) for being "chick" cars. Anybody remember the old "Hi" commercials?
I have alot of respect for the engine they put in the SRT-4, but the rest of the car is not my cup of tea. So sue me.
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First of all, you should read my post again. I wasn't trying to make fun of anything, just saying that cars that I previously loved to death have been ruined by restyling that is not up to my taste.
Secondly, you don't need a V8 to go fast, anyone with a brain knows this. Please, don't try to compare anything to my srt-4, because I'm going to have to serve you a giant helping of ownage pie.
Secondly, you don't need a V8 to go fast, anyone with a brain knows this. Please, don't try to compare anything to my srt-4, because I'm going to have to serve you a giant helping of ownage pie.
Oh yeah you owned me
Maybe you're the one who should find a life and not make ridiculous whiney little threads about "chick" cars. Take a look at yourself before you make comments about others.
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Rep Power: 0 yep. every SRT-10 owner ive ever met refuses to refer to it as a NEON.. however, i work at a car dealership. we sell ford and dodge.. wanna guess what it says on the paperwork when they sell an srt-4? or when they service it? it says NEON. youre one of the "chick" car people. welcome. also, the REAL mustang (or any muscle car for that matter) enthusiasts would probably call civics a "chick" car as well... btw~ i still dont like the term "chick car".
The SRT-4 is a great car. Drove it a while back and it was entertaining to drive, with it's fat torque band and nice shifter. This car does messure up to the hype that it received from the magazines.
But, like nookiemonster said speed isn't everything. If it were my money i would get an EP3.
But, like nookiemonster said speed isn't everything. If it were my money i would get an EP3.
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just like mercury turned the cougar into a chick car...gay
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Originally Posted by nookiemonster
Haha, you must be implying I have no life. Whatever just keep in mind I'm a decorated combat veteran. And besides the point, I was pointing out that you were mocking a car for being a "chick car" when in fact you drive a neon. Last I checked Neons are chick cars. No matter how hard and fast I can throw a turd down the drag strip, it's still a turd.
BOTTOM LINE: Your car is a neon. I don't care how fast it is. It can be the fastest car in the world, it's still a neon--designed to be cute, so you my friend have very little ground to stand on when it comes to making fun of other cars (especially mustangs) for being "chick" cars. Anybody remember the old "Hi" commercials?
I have alot of respect for the engine they put in the SRT-4, but the rest of the car is not my cup of tea. So sue me.
Oh yeah, and I guess calling mustangs and GTO's chick cars isn't making fun of them huh? You contradict yourself here. And I didn't say you needed a V8 to be fast, but I did say that if I put a V8 in an echo it's still that--an echo--so you've got yourself a fast neon. 10's eh? Congratulations, you've got a 10 second NEON. My opinion, but I wouldn't be caught dead in a neon...no matter how fast it is. Speed isn't everything...there's more aspects to a good performer than just speed.
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Maybe you're the one who should find a life and not make ridiculous whiney little threads about "chick" cars. Take a look at yourself before you make comments about others.
BOTTOM LINE: Your car is a neon. I don't care how fast it is. It can be the fastest car in the world, it's still a neon--designed to be cute, so you my friend have very little ground to stand on when it comes to making fun of other cars (especially mustangs) for being "chick" cars. Anybody remember the old "Hi" commercials?
I have alot of respect for the engine they put in the SRT-4, but the rest of the car is not my cup of tea. So sue me.
Oh yeah, and I guess calling mustangs and GTO's chick cars isn't making fun of them huh? You contradict yourself here. And I didn't say you needed a V8 to be fast, but I did say that if I put a V8 in an echo it's still that--an echo--so you've got yourself a fast neon. 10's eh? Congratulations, you've got a 10 second NEON. My opinion, but I wouldn't be caught dead in a neon...no matter how fast it is. Speed isn't everything...there's more aspects to a good performer than just speed.
Oh yeah you owned me
Maybe you're the one who should find a life and not make ridiculous whiney little threads about "chick" cars. Take a look at yourself before you make comments about others.
ok, fine, it's a neon. whatever. like some have already said, don't knock it unless you can out-drag it.
all trac > celica
STi > WRX > Impreza
Saleen > Mustang base model
EVO VIII > Lancer
SRT-4 > Neon
see where I'm going with this...when you take a neon, drop a new motor, clutch, tranny, suspension, exhaust, interior, etc. etc. the list goes on...it's not so much of a neon anymore...but if you want to call it that, fine...you can enjoy the view of my taillights all night long
as far as cars go, I can't belive you just said that....here let me hand you some fuzzy dice, some 5" exhaust tips, a widebody kit, and your APC undercar neons so you can have some image to go with that zoom...and how about some chrome spinners for the "bling"...bottom line...cars...go fast, let nothing get in the way of that. people like you can say all they want about my "neon" or my vic or my acclaim or my probe, when it beats the fvck out of you in a standing 1/4 you just look even more stupid for badmouthing it
but like I said, badmouth my vic, my "neon", my probe, my acclaim...whatever I frankly don't give a damn, because the real bottom line is speed, in which me > you
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Originally Posted by ImportGrl
yep. every SRT-10 owner ive ever met refuses to refer to it as a NEON.. however, i work at a car dealership. we sell ford and dodge.. wanna guess what it says on the paperwork when they sell an srt-4? or when they service it? it says NEON. youre one of the "chick" car people. welcome. also, the REAL mustang (or any muscle car for that matter) enthusiasts would probably call civics a "chick" car as well... btw~ i still dont like the term "chick car".
let me clear this up, apparently people are misunderstanding me.
I love Mustangs (in general, not all of them).
I love the ORIGINAL Pointiac GTO.
I love the ORIGINAL Cougar.
etc. etc. etc. you get the point
I am not hating on Mustang owners or any other such sort of thing. I am simply saying I think they took a beautiful car and made it less appealing to me in terms of power production and body styling.
That being said, stock vs. stock, srt4=cobra...look at the numbers, road and track, stock 03 srt4 ran a 13.3, stock cobra ran a 13.3 (they ran a 13.1 with the 04 srt4 because we finally got a limited slip diff then, but comparing an 04 to an 03 is unfair).
I'm not saying either is better. I'm simply saying there are two ways to go about reaching the same goal, going fast. It is possible to like both.
I love anything with four wheels that goes fast.
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Originally Posted by TurboDieselDrew
I dont care what your neon looks like or how fast it is. I don't like them. The fanboys like you make them even worse.
If you care about power to weight ratio why did you even start this thread about missing real muscle cars so much? Your entire arguement doesnt make sense now. A muscle car is a big, heavy *** RWD car with a ton of horsepower.
I know about the fast neons. There a few in the area that visit the local message boards and proclaim the exact same things you do. I'm tired of hearing how great the Neon is from Neon owners.
If you care about power to weight ratio why did you even start this thread about missing real muscle cars so much? Your entire arguement doesnt make sense now. A muscle car is a big, heavy *** RWD car with a ton of horsepower.
I know about the fast neons. There a few in the area that visit the local message boards and proclaim the exact same things you do. I'm tired of hearing how great the Neon is from Neon owners.
Someone started bashing my "neon"...I defended it. Simple as that. If you bash my Vic, my Acclaim, or my Probe I'll respond in the same way...shut your mouth and come to Englishtown...I'll let my HP do the talking
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speaking of sleek...
300M
350Z
G35
why can't we just drop a Ford Windstar V8 into the 350Z...she's already got good sleek gangster looks and some pep to go with it, she just needs a little more kick in the ***
speaking of sleek...
300M
350Z
G35
why can't we just drop a Ford Windstar V8 into the 350Z...she's already got good sleek gangster looks and some pep to go with it, she just needs a little more kick in the ***
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Rep Power: 0 I came real close to buying a SRT-4 a month ago...I took it on a test drive and it was really impressive...Yeah, it has the same head and taillights as the neon, but that's the only thing that is the same between the two models...I personally like the SRT, but some people don't...There's no sense of bashing it just because you don't like "neons" or Dodge for that matter.
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Originally Posted by DodgeNeonSRT-4
Errr...if you think that power:weight ratio is not an important factor in terms of car engineering, well then, I don't know what to say...
Someone started bashing my "neon"...I defended it. Simple as that. If you bash my Vic, my Acclaim, or my Probe I'll respond in the same way...shut your mouth and come to Englishtown...I'll let my HP do the talking
Someone started bashing my "neon"...I defended it. Simple as that. If you bash my Vic, my Acclaim, or my Probe I'll respond in the same way...shut your mouth and come to Englishtown...I'll let my HP do the talking
I have to ask though... do you have any pics/vids or info on your cars?
Let your HP do all the talking it wants. I won't be able to hear it.
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Originally Posted by MisterTinkerTrain
You completely missed what I was saying...
If you are a car company, your company is restricted to FAA regualtions of emission allowances, and mpg numbers. As a result you aren't going to build a gas guzzling 8 cylinder muscle car, you can but you wont be able to sell it legally until you meet the FAA requirements. Once you meet the requirements you sell the car. Once the car is sold you could care less what people do to their cars.
So whether or not people have illegal smog modifications 24/7/365 is not your concern. The legality of selling the vehicle is. Not only the legality of the vehicle emissions and power restrictions, but also your target customers. You want as wide a variety of buyers as possible. At this point I just start repeating what Prod said. Point is, the car companies aren't making cars liek they used to because of govbernment regulations, changes in taste, and advancements in aerodynamics and other areas.
If you are a car company, your company is restricted to FAA regualtions of emission allowances, and mpg numbers. As a result you aren't going to build a gas guzzling 8 cylinder muscle car, you can but you wont be able to sell it legally until you meet the FAA requirements. Once you meet the requirements you sell the car. Once the car is sold you could care less what people do to their cars.
So whether or not people have illegal smog modifications 24/7/365 is not your concern. The legality of selling the vehicle is. Not only the legality of the vehicle emissions and power restrictions, but also your target customers. You want as wide a variety of buyers as possible. At this point I just start repeating what Prod said. Point is, the car companies aren't making cars liek they used to because of govbernment regulations, changes in taste, and advancements in aerodynamics and other areas.
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Rep Power: 328 God what a cry baby. I tell you that you have no grounds to stand on when it comes to calling other cars "chick" cars with your "neon," and you gets all pissy. By the way, I really have a hard time seeing how you can make assumptions about me staring at your tail lights, when I have a GSX-R 750, RX-7 TT (recently inherited from Pops ) and a mazdaspeed pro (for the canyons and yes SRT-4 is faster boo hoo).
Well anyways man, let's just call this pissing match ended. By the way, I do like SRT-4's, just wouldn't drive one. Just busting your ***** about it, because well frankly, if I agreed with everyone on here, then this site would be boring and the monster would not live on...so take it easy man and pass the roach.
) and a mazdaspeed pro (for the canyons and yes SRT-4 is faster boo hoo).Well anyways man, let's just call this pissing match ended. By the way, I do like SRT-4's, just wouldn't drive one. Just busting your ***** about it, because well frankly, if I agreed with everyone on here, then this site would be boring and the monster would not live on...so take it easy man and pass the roach.
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Rep Power: 328 All good man...sometimes it's more of a burden than anything else...not that it's a bad car, you just really gotta know how to take care of it. I just got lucky the old man lost his lust for sports cars...maybe the bad back?
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Rep Power: 0 lol my old man went to a junkyard in 75 and found a 66 dodge charger with the v8 and the four speed manual as his first car...fell in love with the car as a kid...dad told him the engine had to go
so he found the v6 for it and a nice chrome intake manny and carb and what not and repainted metallic black and the cherrybomb headers...wish he still had that car to give me
(what he didn't tell his dad was that he kept the v8 in the basement...later put it into the car after he moved out of the house...smart man )
so he found the v6 for it and a nice chrome intake manny and carb and what not and repainted metallic black and the cherrybomb headers
...wish he still had that car to give me(what he didn't tell his dad was that he kept the v8 in the basement...later put it into the car after he moved out of the house...smart man
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