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Pharoh - Saturn and Saab might share dealerships because they are both owned by GM. I personally don't know and know why they would want to do it just because, if I was GM, I wouldn't want to associate Saab with Saturn.
What I'm saying is that even though these two cars have the same engine. They will be built differently. Your experience with the Ion RL, was bad, because like I said, Saturn didn't really wanted to do this so they just put the engine on the car and that’s it.
I would like you to test drive the Cobalt Supercharged, once it comes out. If all the reviews I have read about the Cobalt are true then you will see what I'm talking about and how the Cobalt should be built a lot better than the Ion RL.
(Hrrrrr... You edited your post while I was typing my respond.)
All I said about Saab and Cobalt is that they will use the same trasmission.
What I'm saying is that even though these two cars have the same engine. They will be built differently. Your experience with the Ion RL, was bad, because like I said, Saturn didn't really wanted to do this so they just put the engine on the car and that’s it.
I would like you to test drive the Cobalt Supercharged, once it comes out. If all the reviews I have read about the Cobalt are true then you will see what I'm talking about and how the Cobalt should be built a lot better than the Ion RL.
(Hrrrrr... You edited your post while I was typing my respond.)
All I said about Saab and Cobalt is that they will use the same trasmission.
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Originally Posted by aznsensation18
its funny how all of these domestic companies are putting on turbos and superchargers and are only matching up to a import who has nothing on it....its funny...
its just because domestic automakers dont want a car that has 0 torque, and has to be wound to 7K to get some power. looks at the torque curves for a D17 and an ecotec. With the heavy cars that everyone is producing now you need some torque,
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Originally Posted by EManEX
What I'm saying is that even though these two cars have the same engine. They will be built differently. Your experience with the Ion RL, was bad, because like I said, Saturn didn't really wanted to do this so they just put the engine on the car and that’s it.
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Originally Posted by Pharoh
The Redline ironically enough doesn't even come close to 7000 RPM's. If memory serves I think I got cut off at 6500.
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Originally Posted by Master
looks like something that will take the place of the cavalier. The back kinda reminds me of the new gto, but I think it might be taken from the ion redline base.
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Originally Posted by EManEX
If you read my other post (not directed at you) you will see that, the cars rev limiter was an issue for the people test driving the car. They mentioned that the hp crashes with the rev limiter. I think that with a chip flash, raising the rev to 7000 RPM's the car would produce more HP. Saturn didn't do any research on the engine they just put it in the Ion.
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Rep Power: 320 Just to give you guys an idea of how much attention is being given to the Cobalt by GM here is an article.
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Rep Power: 304 The news are on the GM site.
Its a press release to give hope to investors and intice more investments. All manufacturers do that. A simple seat becomes a marvel of engineering. I'll tell you what probably happened they made a cool seat, and then they justified it they did some research on seats and backed it with some data in an article. They make it seem that its vice versa where they did the RD and then made the seat accordingly, which i'm sure isn't the case. All public companies have press releases and hype their products or current events. It helps boost their share value, these dudes make a lot of money.
Its a press release to give hope to investors and intice more investments. All manufacturers do that. A simple seat becomes a marvel of engineering. I'll tell you what probably happened they made a cool seat, and then they justified it they did some research on seats and backed it with some data in an article. They make it seem that its vice versa where they did the RD and then made the seat accordingly, which i'm sure isn't the case. All public companies have press releases and hype their products or current events. It helps boost their share value, these dudes make a lot of money.
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Rep Power: 0 the car's not too shabby, and GM will sell the crap out of em....there's tons of mom's and dad's that'll buy a car for their kids from the general before an import any day. also, aren't we forgetting about a great advantage of supercharging over turbocharging??? NO TURBO LAG!!! and to say this car's not going to be reliable is a joke... GM has been drag racing the ecotec for years now, and if i'm not mistaken, the leader in the NHRA sport compact series is what else, but a pontiac sunfire, and the cavi's going good as well....lets give the general a chance here fellas and see what happens...
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Originally Posted by Got Boost???
looks like a skyline had a threesome with a cavalier and a civic
those tail lights look like bug eyes
those tail lights look like bug eyes
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Originally Posted by nindoo
A muscular version of a civic from the side and front, and skyline back lights. I've seen those style lights on Impalas to.
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Originally Posted by nindoo
Do you guys think an RSX Type R will ever come out in Canada. Or a Civic si(sir canada) Coupe?
the next gen SiR will be a coupe. The hatch is HUGELY unpopular.
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Rep Power: 304 I like the performance of the s2000, and I'm gettinguse to the look, but I'd rather have a longer car. I like prelude, I find the front of the s2000 amazing but I don't the chopped of rear. If it was a bit longer, with rear seats, and hardtop. I love the prelude do you think that will ever come out again?
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Originally Posted by Pharoh
you morons...that's a chevy badged Saturn Redline. 
Same damn engine with a different body...
Same damn engine with a different body...
Also it may only be rated at 205 hp, but on the dyno the redline has been known to pull 195 at the wheels? Hmmmmm....
GM underrates hp numbers. I'd rock it over the type S hell yah I would. F/I stock means cheap upgrades for high hp. The S is allready tuned to the max and turbo is unreliable.
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Originally Posted by EManEX
Here see Civic looks like the Astra.
Holy crap it looks almost identical to the Coupe Civic, even the tail lights are similar. I'm very dissapointed with Honda
for copying. I looked at and didn't comment because I though it was the civic coupe.
I heard top gear mention that the previous gen integra type r was a mix of toyota paseo and celia. Is that true?
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